DM Q&A - ranger multi class

[erle]

Good morning.. I have a wizard/ranger multi class and was very pleased when my summons got extra levels at 3wizard/3ranger as this enabled the RP of a reclusive but confident elf - lady that isn’t possible based on skill-strength alone. Unfortunately when I leveled wizard on the next level, the summons reverted to their basic status. Is this a function of the relative dominance of the classes and will leveling the ranger once again give me access to higher level summons? My intention has been to get to a 4wizard/6ranger dynamic

Thank you in advance

Atani

[DM Betelgeuse]

I believe this is because your ranger level was no longer the dominant one.

[Rigo Banger]

Ok, so unfortunately same question again. I am now LV5 Ranger/ 4Wizard and I once again have dire badgers instead of wolves as summons. I do love my wolves any reason for the change?

Atani

[DM Private P]

Are you using ranger spells or wizard spell slots?

[Rigo Banger]

To my knowledge I never got ranger spell slots, so I’m guessing they are wizard spell slots? It doesn’t really explain the transition regardless, but happy to accommodate. I’m just trying to figure out the pattern so I can grow accordingly.

[Rigo Banger]

So I just figured out I can select Ranger spells in the spell radial and it would have been wizard spell slots that I was using … doesn’t explain the discrepancy, but perhaps it was just a glitch?

[DM Flash]

I think it's more likely that it's a technicality. Only the Ranger Summon Spells are modified, the Wizard Summon Spells are not. This nuance is what I gather based on the FRC Server Information Updates:

frc.proboards.com/thread/30447/frc-server-information-updates

Jun 23, 2020 18:20:21 GMT -5 DM Hawk said:

The following class updates are being made to bring server information up to date, but are not new to the module:

Barbarian

- Barbarian Rage, Greater Rage, and Mighty Rage increase Attack Bonus and Damage instead of Strength. This allows the benefit to effectively stack with Strength bonuses without being restricted by the attribute's normal bonus limit.

- Slashing, Piercing, and Bludgeoning Damage Immunity is applied during Barbarian Rage (5%), Greater Rage (10%), and Mighty Rage (15%). This is in addition to Damage Reduction and Epic Damage Reduction.


Bard

Summon Creature I through VI spells summon creatures as if cast one spell level higher.


Palemaster

Summon Undead and Summon Greater Undead feats summon creatures that are slightly stronger, advance earlier, and have a longer duration when compared to undead creatures summoned by spells.


Ranger

Summon Creature I through IV spells summon creatures as if cast two spell levels higher.



The following updates are being made for new additions:


Fallen Status & Divine Class Faith Change Tokens

FRC has introduced a token driven Fallen Status system whereby Barbarians, Clerics, Druids, and Paladins may lose access to class abilities when turning away from alignment, faith, or code. To have the restriction lifted, impacted characters will need to coordinate with a DM to seek atonement. See Fallen Status.



Placeable Items

FRC has implemented a Placeable Items system. Placeable items available include chairs, tables, carpets, lighting, signs, paintings, games, food, other furniture, and more. See Placeable Items

[Luckbringer]

As noted the boost is only supposed to work for summons cast with ranger spells.

The summons spells are all handled by a single script for ranger, wizard and all others. It uses the caster level to determine which class was used to cast, which in some rare edge cases like ranger/wizard with equal levels will have a 50% chance of choosing the wrong one. Not a huge deal, because 4 ranger/4 wizard would be behind in summons anyway vs a pure caster: the goal was primarily to prevent a build like 1 ranger/12 cleric getting +2 "effective summoning level" boosts for cleric summons.

This script is pretty old; there could be better ways to do this. For example .. checking each SN vs the ranger level to see if it's able to cast summon S at level L. Unsure if it's a big concern though.

[DM Flash]

Thank you for sharing, Luckbringer. I've quoted your post into the DM/Scripting forums and we'll have a look to see what can be done about that.