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Post by Grozer on May 11, 2006 15:55:29 GMT -5
We had one and people still congregated in Isinhold. I dont believe that does anything since there are still sooooo many other places in Cormyr. Even without the door most players stick to Isinhold and Redmist now.
So by Justi changing healing prices and lets say we lower caravan cost... people -will- get out and explore more.
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Post by DM Justicar - Creator of FRC on May 11, 2006 15:58:15 GMT -5
We had one and people still congregated in Isinhold. I dont believe that does anything since there are still sooooo many other places in Cormyr. Even without the door most players stick to Isinhold and Redmist now. So by Justi changing healing prices and lets say we lower caravan cost... people -will- get out and explore more. Jeez man... caravan pricing too? Always something...
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Post by hexer on May 11, 2006 16:00:25 GMT -5
Hahaha... This is an issue on most every server I've been on. The starting town ends up being the 'hot spot'... I've even been on a server that forced you to start at different towns based on your level to try to spread people out. Everyone just took the boats back to the starting town.
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Post by Grozer on May 11, 2006 17:15:59 GMT -5
We had one and people still congregated in Isinhold. I dont believe that does anything since there are still sooooo many other places in Cormyr. Even without the door most players stick to Isinhold and Redmist now. So by Justi changing healing prices and lets say we lower caravan cost... people -will- get out and explore more. Jeez man... caravan pricing too? Always something... Sorry chief just a suggestion, I am not sure its worth it to do, just thought I'd throw it out there.
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Post by DM Richard (Retired) on May 11, 2006 17:52:08 GMT -5
What first started here as a comment has been turned into a search for a solution to a problem.
I was able to see the reason for it when people hung out in the exterior of Isinhold for hours on end and we thought it was part of the lag problem.
There is no real problem to address this time. Sure it doesn't make sense that everyone hangs out in Isinhold. The only answer for that is to make Redmist (or some other place) the start town.
I have been to one and only one server where the start town did not have people hanging around it. I played on that server for several hours without ever seeing anyone. It was the most boring and dull time I have had on a server.
I'm not the kind of player that craves DM attention but I prefer to have someone (a player) to RP with when I can. After a few hours I just logged off and went looking for another server. I never went back.
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Post by Driderman on May 12, 2006 13:48:05 GMT -5
I'm sure its much too late now, but perhaps having two different 'beginners area' in the module from the start might have helped this a bit. Of course, then it would just have been two areas in stead of one where everybody was hanging around all the time...
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Post by DM Justicar - Creator of FRC on May 12, 2006 14:32:13 GMT -5
I'm sure its much too late now, but perhaps having two different 'beginners area' in the module from the start might have helped this a bit. Of course, then it would just have been two areas in stead of one where everybody was hanging around all the time... Usurper made a system that I should be putting in the module really, really soon. It will have different start points for good/evil characters and I think we are working on differnt respawns as well.
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Post by Driderman on May 12, 2006 16:31:51 GMT -5
Ohh! Seperate start point for evil characters? Now I'll have to start thinking about that evil character I was thinking about
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Post by Quadhund/Greenhouse on May 12, 2006 16:59:04 GMT -5
I have to chime in since i was a part of the discussion when this was initially raised. For a seedy underhanded fellow, Isinhold is the WORST place for me to be, until recently. Way back when, when 10 players would gather by the resting campfire in the middle of town and then Raven would summon forth a few Balors, we had to instate a no PvP policy there. Now, I dont think this is why people continued to congregate there. I am part of the problem, that up until the point when patch 1.66 broke FRC (increased lag by leaps and bounds) nearly the whole server would be found by that little fire. It was the best place to gather rumors, but impossible to ply my seedy trade. Thus I started branching out. That's why most of you don't see me hanging around there except on initial log in to grab some stuff then im off to another city. For a time, back when Thor owned redmist, isinhold was like the good city and redmist the bad one. Kinda cool. But that eventually died out. So instead of continuing to harp on the past the solution is:
If you dont like hanging out in isinhold, don't. Send a tell to your friends saying that a message was left for them at the regal griffon that your pc was headed to another city, and have them join you out there. easy as that. And if you are bored, go back to the regal cause you will surely find someone there. Then drag their arse out of isin. Sometimes you can be a solution to your own problem, and don't even need the dms help (not saying you were asking for the dms help initially).
And once you leave isin ... then the "fun" really begins.
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Post by Talus on May 12, 2006 17:07:10 GMT -5
The only reason you see kam there so much is because that is usually where his business is. But I tell you what he has his best sales outside of Isinhold. And Kam hates that little hole of a town. As a matter of fact I think you will see him rarely there from now on.
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Post by Foomanchu on May 12, 2006 18:45:53 GMT -5
I'm sure its much too late now, but perhaps having two different 'beginners area' in the module from the start might have helped this a bit. Of course, then it would just have been two areas in stead of one where everybody was hanging around all the time... Usurper made a system that I should be putting in the module really, really soon. It will have different start points for good/evil characters and I think we are working on differnt respawns as well. you sneaky sons of....NICE!!! lol good to hear!
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Post by Foomanchu on May 12, 2006 18:52:40 GMT -5
For a time, back when Thor owned redmist, isinhold was like the good city and redmist the bad one. Kinda cool. But that eventually died out. I missed the 'evil inn' in redmist...kicking out goodies was always a great time! *cry*
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Post by Panros on Jun 9, 2006 19:14:22 GMT -5
As a new player I find that I am sort of bound to stay in Isinhold. I desperately seach for an area where Torgeir can slay beasts and live, and that area has been the well. A good solution to this trap would be to have another village neaby that is easy to get to for low level characters. Of course the way their one would encounter baddies, but they would be low enough to kill. Another solution is to not make ever road baddie infested. Come on, I walk from my house six blocks to my school in Compton and I only get jumped like once every three to five months.
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Post by moulinous on Jun 9, 2006 19:35:45 GMT -5
I will never understand this as even a mage i had for a bit can make the walk into Redmist and staying on the road is easy...but what about the crypts in isnhold? the ruins? the bugbears? the orc cave? ummmm, the bramble? the list goes on and on, i know that people constantly run into the dwarfs as we are alwasy going someplace...and right back to Merrisses, but you never know what is out there until you risk a little life and limb....
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Post by heimdall on Jun 9, 2006 19:39:43 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but I agree with Moulinous! keep in mind this is a party based server ~ if it's too tough for you alone, make a friend ~ dwarves, halflings and gnomes are the best friends because remember....you don't have to be able to outrun the bear.....you just have to be able to outrun your buddy.
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Post by heimdall on Jun 9, 2006 19:52:30 GMT -5
............back when Thor owned redmist...... lol - Thor never 'owned' Redmist.
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Post by Panros on Jun 9, 2006 22:34:24 GMT -5
Or you could leave the raging barbarian behind to fight to his death. lol ;P
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Post by soulfien on Jun 10, 2006 1:31:08 GMT -5
............back when Thor owned redmist...... lol - Thor never 'owned' Redmist. Couldn't tell him that, though. Not without a brawl, anyway
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Post by moulinous on Jun 10, 2006 19:31:40 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but I agree with Moulinous! keep in mind this is a party based server ~ if it's too tough for you alone, make a friend ~ dwarves, halflings and gnomes are the best friends because remember....you don't have to be able to outrun the bear.....you just have to be able to outrun your buddy. a dm agreed with me? wow...think that is one of the seven signs in that big ass book we all live by...the Boston's Bar Book or something i think it is called....
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Post by Masterbard Alyster Darkharp on Nov 4, 2006 22:51:14 GMT -5
Guys, it is the same everywhere. I play on a MUD and wherever the 'recall point is' or wherever newbies enter the game, is always the spot with the hype. Though I recently discussed with another PC the idea of heading out to base ourselves out of another city. Maybe we should form large parties, split off in different directions, and see what comes of it? That way there is someone there to roleplay with when we get there lol
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Post by gneuklear on Nov 12, 2006 22:11:49 GMT -5
As a newbie to this server and a player with a low-level character, Redmist is the farthest I've seen outside of Isinhold. I didn't hang around there because it was quite empty, so I agree that something needs to be done to balance things out.
It wouldn't be in character for me to start anywhere I haven't been, so I can't start in any of the other start cities. I recommend putting back the Redmist start door.
As far as price goes, shouldn't a small farm town have a smaller supply of goods resulting in a higher price? I think that if Isinhold had higher prices then people would lose that reason to hang around (or continually return as the case may be). You could use the same reasoning to limit the supplies available there to the bare essentials for low-level adventuring (no healing potions above "cure moderate wounds" for example). That way, newbies would look forward to getting out ASAP - built in reason for mid-level characters to look elsewhere. It makes sense from an economics perspective as well (if a town really had the business that Isinhold does, it would flourish! And it would take a bigger city to supply higher-level adventurers). The same idea could be used to ensure that other areas get plenty of traffic as well - just make sure there's something people want that they can only get there. As characters increase in ability, they will want more powerful supplies and they'll have to go to other areas to get them.
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Post by Helgrin Granitesoul on Nov 13, 2006 0:15:32 GMT -5
Isinhold isnt the cheapest place for supplies... Not by far. Actually kind of expensive compared to Suzail.
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Post by olwentheold on Nov 13, 2006 0:19:11 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of the congregation in Isinhold myself, but it's really up to the players There has been some good points presented here and I'll start working on some of the ideas.
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Post by Booze Hound on Nov 13, 2006 1:46:43 GMT -5
Isinhold is definatly not where the cheap supplies are. if you are buying all your supplies in Isin, you are shelling out a lot of wasted gold. even the cost of a caravan ticket somewhere and back to get supplies is cheaper than buying there there, just so you know.
and like I said earlier, I am going to be focusing on places other than Isinhold. I did something there tonight to get the juices flowing, from here on out, I'm staying out! hehehe
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Post by Theo on Nov 14, 2006 1:20:26 GMT -5
I think it's best if there are only one or two main towns on a server. The rest won't be used and just use up memory. Unless there are unique things to get or buy there. In which case there'll be visits to the towns. But, for the most part, everyone's going to primarily stick around one town.
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Post by sundano on Nov 23, 2006 17:05:40 GMT -5
pretty new here, and I think it would be good if the focus was'nt on Isinhold as much, but it's the focus point for the majority of the rp that goes on, so that's where my characters are going to stay for a while. If there was a lot of rp in redmist I'd go there, I would'nt take Galana much further than that at the moment though, multiclassing Ranger and Sorcerer is tough work, trying to get a balance, and i picked a lowsy spell: true strike which looked good, then realised how short it's duration was, bah, anyway I'm getting sidetracked, Isinhold is a good place, but it's very expensive, and only two things are holding me back, the rp and my inability to kill anything outside isinhold without help, lol
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Post by DM Grizwald on Nov 23, 2006 17:44:34 GMT -5
Well, to all those inside of isinhold. I cant wait till you see the rest of cormyr because this wold is HUGE. Honestly there is so much.
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Post by moulinous on Nov 23, 2006 18:24:38 GMT -5
there is lots and lots you can do outside of isnhold if my 4th guy can do it solo...just branch out and try it, with even a single freind you will be okay, trust me, juast go and look...and not every part of a dungeon needs to be finished, some parts are harder...do what you can
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Post by darkravenkin on Nov 23, 2006 18:34:57 GMT -5
The main reason I keep staying around is because I'm only a level 7. I've been trying to get out of the area and battle else where but I've died twice and lost 1400 exp. It isn't easy to get that back and not everyone wants to group together just to stay in a another city. It's a little frustrating because it feels like I'm to weak to leave and to skilled for whats around. And fighting in the orc or kobold caves gets a little redundent when the little bugger wont clear out lol. Like I love the server and so far its the only one I've found with a great interaction with the other players, dm's and npc. I looking forward to keep playing there.
Gargain
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Post by Driderman on Nov 26, 2006 5:48:05 GMT -5
The main reason I keep staying around is because I'm only a level 7. I've been trying to get out of the area and battle else where but I've died twice and lost 1400 exp. It isn't easy to get that back and not everyone wants to group together just to stay in a another city. It's a little frustrating because it feels like I'm to weak to leave and to skilled for whats around. And fighting in the orc or kobold caves gets a little redundent when the little bugger wont clear out lol. Like I love the server and so far its the only one I've found with a great interaction with the other players, dm's and npc. I looking forward to keep playing there. Gargain I know the feeling... Of course, if adventurers weren't so cheap we could use our hardearned gold to pay for a caravan ride...
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