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Bagels?
Nov 25, 2007 8:57:44 GMT -5
Post by ManyAsOne on Nov 25, 2007 8:57:44 GMT -5
What do you all think of bagels? Are they good? Bad? ;D Sheesh. Everyone's fishing for compliments here. There are threads up already to congratulate each other on good times while RPing. This forum is for the ideas, suggestions, and general discussion of Roleplaying. Not your characters. It didn't bother me so much at first, but its buggin' me now because there are a lot of really quality threads and discussions about RP that are getting buried under threads asking "Am I cool?" in so many words. Please don't think I'm trying to rag on people who've posted these questions... I just think those are questions you should be asking your friends individually, or asking the DMs via PMs. I really hate to see all these great old roleplaying discussions get lost under a mountain of whole threads dedicated to single players instead of the roleplaying community in general.
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Bagels?
Nov 25, 2007 9:08:56 GMT -5
Post by Masterbard Alyster Darkharp on Nov 25, 2007 9:08:56 GMT -5
Bagels are the devil, I hate them with a passion.
I prefer donuts
*goes back to writing his epic masterwork of song and tries to force the evil that are bagels from his head*
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Bagels?
Nov 25, 2007 10:26:22 GMT -5
Post by moulinous on Nov 25, 2007 10:26:22 GMT -5
It is not fishing for compliments if you answer truthfully and without malice. They are asking for thoughts on how to play their pc better and have thrown it out to the community at large for discussion. Asking them individually is fine but maybe someone who has a thought on it that you would not have known to ask might chime in. And if you ask only people you play with, or DMs....then what is the truth of the statements? They already like your role play as they play with you. Maybe hearing from other people that they normally do not play with might give them a different perspective or lead them to a new path as it is a journey of self-discovery that sometimes gets stalled.
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Bagels?
Nov 25, 2007 10:44:38 GMT -5
Post by ancientempathy on Nov 25, 2007 10:44:38 GMT -5
It is not fishing for compliments if you answer truthfully and without malice. They are asking for thoughts on how to play their pc better and have thrown it out to the community at large for discussion. Asking them individually is fine but maybe someone who has a thought on it that you would not have known to ask might chime in. And if you ask only people you play with, or DMs....then what is the truth of the statements? They already like your role play as they play with you. Maybe hearing from other people that they normally do not play with might give them a different perspective or lead them to a new path as it is a journey of self-discovery that sometimes gets stalled. Well said. I could add a bit more to it but I need to pack my suit case soon and prepare for my flight My question is though; Is there a more suitable place to put questions about your character? I thought about the 'General Discussion' section, but the only reason why I didn't go ahead and post it there at first is because I saw other people had done it already in this section. Sorries I won't mind my thread on Randal being moved to a more suitable location if a DM wants to do it, but I dont see that being needed. Edit: Oh, I like bagels.
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Nov 25, 2007 13:25:17 GMT -5
Post by ManyAsOne on Nov 25, 2007 13:25:17 GMT -5
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Nov 25, 2007 13:53:27 GMT -5
Post by kasin on Nov 25, 2007 13:53:27 GMT -5
It is not fishing for compliments if you answer truthfully and without malice. They are asking for thoughts on how to play their pc better and have thrown it out to the community at large for discussion. Asking them individually is fine but maybe someone who has a thought on it that you would not have known to ask might chime in. And if you ask only people you play with, or DMs....then what is the truth of the statements? They already like your role play as they play with you. Maybe hearing from other people that they normally do not play with might give them a different perspective or lead them to a new path as it is a journey of self-discovery that sometimes gets stalled. Well said.
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Bagels?
Nov 25, 2007 14:06:51 GMT -5
Post by moulinous on Nov 25, 2007 14:06:51 GMT -5
It is not about having validations but rather what is needed or over the top or anything to do with that individual character. The Honorable Mention for RP thread is for people to say good job. Having a separate one for people to discuss someone on an individual basis would be great. But one thread that encompasses each person would become filled quickly with so many separate leads it would become confusing to say the least to figure out who is talking about who. It would need to be one for player/DM feedback on an individual basis. If no one responds then that tells you something in itself....get out and meet more people. I know that I often go back and look through many of the threads and sometimes rescue those about to fall off because I value what they say. The Honorable Mention RP thread is something I rarely posted in. The same people posted often in it and no real feedback about pcs was given. I do think that the Honorable Mention thread is good though for some and admire the people who use it. I just never did personally. I understand that it is burying threads so to speak but I do think it is discussion on pcs that people want to have and any discussion of role playing benefits the community some way.
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Bagels?
Nov 25, 2007 14:27:29 GMT -5
Post by canuckkane on Nov 25, 2007 14:27:29 GMT -5
I can't speak for anyone else, but, I know for me personally what I was fishing for with Vrulo wasn't really compliments. In general it was opinions on anything they think I might be doing wrong, what they might do differently, etc. I don't know unless they tell me and nobody ever sends you tells saying "dood, you know what you should do in X situation?" The vast majority don't want to piss you off and, (in my humble opinion anyway), generally just want to avoid personal conflicts. By asking "what do you think of my character" it gives them a way to offer their thoughts without feeling as if they're being pushy or opinionated. Just my two cents.
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Nov 25, 2007 16:24:27 GMT -5
Post by ancientempathy on Nov 25, 2007 16:24:27 GMT -5
I can't speak for anyone else, but, I know for me personally what I was fishing for with Vrulo wasn't really compliments. In general it was opinions on anything they think I might be doing wrong, what they might do differently, etc. I don't know unless they tell me and nobody ever sends you tells saying "dood, you know what you should do in X situation?" The vast majority don't want to piss you off and, (in my humble opinion anyway), generally just want to avoid personal conflicts. By asking "what do you think of my character" it gives them a way to offer their thoughts without feeling as if they're being pushy or opinionated. Just my two cents. That's what I was fishing for too when I began my thread on Randal, Canuck. I wanted suggestions on 'how' to do this or that. What happens is, we just have an awesome community that likes to give compliments ;D Take it as you or anyone would wish/like I suppose. I have gotten PM's from some individual who have suggested 'this or that' on the 'how or what you can do', so that's awesome too. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And as this section of the forum does state, "Roleplay ideas, Suggestions, and Discussions." The answer is in the title on what should be acceptable on what to post in this section of the forums or not. Players who post on their character here, I would think, are looking for suggestions and ideas, and to just discuss their character. Perhaps there could be a section made called "Character Discussion", under the Roleplay section of the forums? I don't see any harm in it, if we're all respectable to each other.. Furthermore, if some of the more interesting topics are getting burried, why not just toss them back up? Post something in them I guess
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Nov 26, 2007 6:54:11 GMT -5
Post by Aodhan the Unusual on Nov 26, 2007 6:54:11 GMT -5
Bagels roxors! Especially the ones with onions and that onion and chives cream cheese! MmmmMMMM!!!
And the other threads... People get curious about how their characters come across. Are they really playing them the way they're trying to be? Sure you can ask your friends in game, and they'll all generally say the same thing - Yeah it's great. You're fine. Looks good. - but whether it's really the truth or just them trying to be nice or in a hurry, you never know. Like it has been stated before, this allows for constructive criticism so that we can learn how people perceive our characters so we can alter them a bit to fit more along the lines of how we envision them to be.
But I still love ya Bats. Miss your own PCs. *huggles*
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Nov 26, 2007 13:19:22 GMT -5
Post by The Supreme Watcher on Nov 26, 2007 13:19:22 GMT -5
Bagels FTW.
I like them with a little bit of cream cheese. The flavored stuff of course.
And yeah. I'd prefer to make a thread about "How have I managed to piss you all off, so that I can continue being an effective antagonist?"
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Bagels?
Nov 27, 2007 1:27:57 GMT -5
Post by arcadiadragon on Nov 27, 2007 1:27:57 GMT -5
bagels are good......with cream cheese
but as for the fishing issue...it sounds too much like a can of worms to me...if i needed thoughts on how to play chrys..i would ask the few rp'rs I -trusted- if they thought i was either playing her bad or had lost touch with her..but keep it off the boards unless your truly lost and desperate for help with your rp or character direction I think individually asking about each character on the boards only create more work for dm's to monitor...and the more we ask our DM's to paper push the less time they have to torture...er i mean guide us
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Bagels?
Nov 27, 2007 2:23:22 GMT -5
Post by ShadowCatJen on Nov 27, 2007 2:23:22 GMT -5
Not everyone has the same opinion on what good roleplay is. Not everyone can agree on how to play a certain character archetype. No one is fully right or fully wrong in their opinions.
With this in mind asking openly like this if you're doing "well" at playing your character sort of defeats the fact that it's you playing it. Now if you're having a problem or have lost direction with your character and need some help and suggestions then I think that's fine to do so here on the forums. If not, then you really should just be asking your closest and most trusted their opinions.
And by closest and most trusted I mean those you can speak to, get criticism from, and know that they're still your friend even after letting you know, good or bad.
Also mind that most people are afraid to give criticisms because of the risk of being lashed out at, starting a flame war, or being the pot calling the kettle black. Mostly, you're going to get praise instead of constructive criticism.
And... it does clutter up this forum where it's supposed to be general ideas, suggestions, and discussion about roleplay for the community.
And on the topic: Bagels, toasted, fresh, with cream cheese, good. Old, stale, rubbery with green cream cheese, bad.
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Nov 27, 2007 3:32:52 GMT -5
Post by Munroe on Nov 27, 2007 3:32:52 GMT -5
Not everyone has the same opinion on what good roleplay is. Not everyone can agree on how to play a certain character archetype. No one is fully right or fully wrong in their opinions. With this in mind asking openly like this if you're doing "well" at playing your character sort of defeats the fact that it's you playing it. Now if you're having a problem or have lost direction with your character and need some help and suggestions then I think that's fine to do so here on the forums. If not, then you really should just be asking your closest and most trusted their opinions. And by closest and most trusted I mean those you can speak to, get criticism from, and know that they're still your friend even after letting you know, good or bad. Also mind that most people are afraid to give criticisms because of the risk of being lashed out at, starting a flame war, or being the pot calling the kettle black. Mostly, you're going to get praise instead of constructive criticism. And... it does clutter up this forum where it's supposed to be general ideas, suggestions, and discussion about roleplay for the community. And on the topic: Bagels, toasted, fresh, with cream cheese, good. Old, stale, rubbery with green cream cheese, bad. I never respond to the kind of thread in question because if I have something to say then you're not going to like it. If I say nothing at all I'm either satisfied or I am holding my tongue. Either way, the situation is probably better than if I say something. If I do say something in the kind of thread in question then I must have a strong opinion on the subject, because speaking at all breaks precedent. In the same vein, I also don't post in the ongoing congratulatory threads, whether for player or DM. On the topic of bagels, I love them fresh, toasted, and spread high with gratuitous amounts of cream cheese. I prefer plain cream cheese and blueberry bagels or plain bagels. Edit: Added plain bagels. Blueberry bagel or plain bagel depends on the mood and availability.
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Nov 27, 2007 4:30:24 GMT -5
Post by thogrimur on Nov 27, 2007 4:30:24 GMT -5
Perhaps if the one's who wanted to ask for feedback could add thier request for feedback into the Adventurer's Registry section under the bio they've (likely) created for their character and then a general rule/guideline be made that all feedback be sent to the requestor in the form of PM's? This would prevent clutter in the rp ideas, suggestions and discussion forum and in the adventurer's registry column as well. Then after enough feedback was received the requestor could then go back and delete the post requesting feedback to be received? The reason it would be nice to see them in a different forum (if at all) is that when someone uses the search function to read the last thirty or so posts, they can opt to 'not' view the Adventurer's Registry section if they don't want too. If the requests for feedback had a new forum seperate all to themselves that'd be ok also, but I'd have to click that 'one extra button' and that's really asking too much of someone....really. ~ edit ~ I like bagels 'n mustard...MmmHmm.
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