The Realm of Death

[Rill]

I'm just asking for clarification:
If our characters die, do they then remember what goes on in the realm of the dead? I kinda figured they don't -- especially not on the "You awake..."-plane, being a strictly OOC area. Yet I've heard mentions of the areas, and narratives of dealings/happenings/events there -- spoken IC.

And such lead to the question. To be frank, it's more of a "Seriously, stop being so OOC when you're IC." than a "Sorry, I'm new here, I'm not completely canon on what we say and don't" kind of appeal, but, yeah.

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[Gabusta]

rill said:

Yet I've heard mentions of the areas, and narratives of dealings/happenings/events there -- spoken IC.

I believe the areas referred to are the Fugue? Because that area is supposed to be known as a concept to paladins, clerics and the like, and other characters with an interest in the divine. Of course, everything which happens in the Fugue, shouldn't be remembered IC... that's how I've understood it, anyways.
Just my 12 øre (2 cents)

[Dachshund]

If you do not wish the community to post in your thread you should not post in this forum.

Should you be in need of clarification from the DMs specifially, please ask us in the DM Q&A. That's what it's there for.

As for your question,

No, you do not remember anything that happened while you were dead unless a DM specifically tells you you do.

[Quadhund/Greenhouse]

This does not mean that you cannot interact with one another nor does it mean that stories cannot be written about it. Just means you will not remember it(unless otherwise specified by a dm as Dachshund pointed out).

[Munroe]

Your character does not remember time spent dead.

However.....

The concept of The Fugue Plane and the City of the Dead/Wall of the Faithless does exist in Realms Lore. It is, for instance, known (at least to those who would know it) that Kelemvor sits in Judgment in the City of the Dead. One of his titles is, appropriately, the Judge of the Damned.

Why is it known? The Fugue Plane is, as stated, a plane. It is possible, with the right magic or the right outsider allies, to travel there without being dead.

[moulinous]

Like when a entirprising dm attacked us with a bunch of anguished spirits,lol, always wondered, would we remember that? anyhow, is it possible, something i wondered, for mages of phels level or more to interplane travel? could phel send someone to the Fugue plane?*shrugs*was wondering that when i was playing but never got around to it, and if someone did get sent there, would they remember it when they left?

[Dachshund]

They would remember a planar journey to the Fugue because they are not dead when they travel there.

[catmage]

According to Player's Guide to Faerun page 153, mortals can't reach the Fuge Plane while they have a mortal form. Only outsiders and dead souls can reach it.

[Gabusta]

I'm still pretty sure Phel or another high-level wizard can send people to the Fugue...

[Quadhund/Greenhouse]

catmage said:

According to Player's Guide to Faerun page 153, mortals can't reach the Fuge Plane while they have a mortal form. Only outsiders and dead souls can reach it.

Didn't Midnight reach there in the third book of the avatar series?

[Munroe]

Ailren:

Aasimars, tieflings, and genasi could still reach it by that reasoning, right? None of our player characters would be able to, the point is that knowledge of it does exist.

[catmage]

The appendix of the Monster Manual v.3.5 says that native outsiders are able to be raised and ressurected normally, and that "unlike TRUE(My emphasis) outsiders, native outsiders need to eat and sleep". Since they can be raised, they have a mortal form, unlike other outsiders, which have a single unit of existence that ends when they are killed.

The Specific passage is as follows:
Like Cynosure, the Fuge Plane exists outside the normal cosmology of Toril. Souls naturally travel from the Material Plane to the Fugue Plane at death, but can not leave of their own volition. Divine servants can travel from the realms of their deities and bring souls back with them, as long as those souls properly belong to the deities they serve. Portals from the Nine Hells open into the fugue plane because of the devils' agreement with Kelemvor, and the demon lords sometimes create portals leading here from the Abyss. In both cases, the fiends can carry souls back to their home planes through the portals. Any other travel to or from the Fugue Plane is Impossible. Mortals cannot travel to the Fugue Plane while their bodies live, and no color pools leading here exist on the Astral Plane

[Dachshund]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Theramin]

Still as we all know, different rules exist for the novels and most campaigns, I'd wager. There's plenty of ways to circumvent not being able to travel to the fugue, I'm sure. I suppose one could just as Kelemvor or Jergal really nicely...

[Paragon]

I read somewhere that summons came from their own plane and thus when they died where automatically transported back to their home planes, (kind of like an astral projection,) unless they were brought to the plane with the gate spell.

I haven't read too much about the fugue, but it seems if an angel or demon had a physical form there, or if humans could walk around in hell with their physical forms because they were gated their by a demon, (ala Dante,) that something similar could happen with the fugue...but I could be completely wrong on this matter...

Sometimes the rules of D&D transcend logic.

[moulinous]

I am pretty sure Midnight did but did she not already have the essence of Mystra or some odd crap in her?

[Quadhund/Greenhouse]

moulinous said:

I am pretty sure Midnight did but did she not already have the essence of Mystra or some odd crap in her?

I believe she was carrying the essence of mystra, but she was not a god yet.

[Munroe]

paragon said:

I read somewhere that summons came from their own plane and thus when they died where automatically transported back to their home planes, (kind of like an astral projection,) unless they were brought to the plane with the gate spell.

I haven't read too much about the fugue, but it seems if an angel or demon had a physical form there, or if humans could walk around in hell with their physical forms because they were gated their by a demon, (ala Dante,) that something similar could happen with the fugue...but I could be completely wrong on this matter...

Sometimes the rules of D&D transcend logic.

Creatures that are summoned don't die when they "die" while summoned. Creatures that are called do die, however. Unless they're of a type that doesn't truly die anyway, such as most fiends.

[Paragon]

wolfmunroe said:

Creatures that are summoned don't die when they "die" while summoned. Creatures that are called do die, however. Unless they're of a type that doesn't truly die anyway, such as most fiends.

That was the essence of what I was saying, yes, except that I was wondering if faerunian folk could be summoned/gated into other planes in much the same way. After all, there seem to be physically tangible objects in the fugue, such as Kelemvor's wall, or the City of the Dead.

I've also heard of D&D pnp adventures where living characters gallivant into other dimensions, (may have even played in one, once or twice.)