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Post by sneakingyoda on Mar 28, 2006 18:18:30 GMT -5
So, lets talk books. My character loves them and has recently grown a collection of about oh, 20 in game books.
Needless to say she wouldn’t be lugging 20 tomes around with her in character all the time- but I don’t want to throw them away because they are indeed valuable to her. I see bookshelves in the Inn and Isinhold all the time so I got to thinking…
My character would happily pay Kale for space to store her book collection for her to study before she “Sends them off back to waterdeep.” For her monistary. Is there some way to archive the books for my use outside my invatory that won’t get deleted?
Obviously the books are in my innovatory at all times- but I have a real problem of thinking of Yulena as a walking bookcase. And then there is the problem of actually deleting the books and losing all the information. (poor little things.)
I’m considering reading them, taking notes on them in a word document outside the game… and then deleting them.
Anyone have any good ideas how to handle this book problem? How to roleplay it? What I can do to save them? If I delete them is it wrong to act like I still have them? ~Whimper.~ If I have the books in my invatory does that really mean Yulena can be seen carrying around a heavy sack of books all the time?
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Post by Grozer on Mar 28, 2006 18:27:12 GMT -5
To my knowledge there is no persistent storage in FRC, i.e. saving items between resets. Thus if you put the books in the bookcase they are gone on the next reset.
One option to carry them around until you "know" the information is a bag of holding.
By knowing them I mean taking notes and/or learning the information contained therein. You could take notes one of several ways... option 1: I believe most of the books you will find in FRC are standard NWN created. Therefore, I am thinking one option is to go into the toolset pull up the specific books and from there you should be able to cut and paste the text into a word document.
Option 2: You could also take screen shots in game and look at those images outside the game to read and copy into a text format.
Im sure others might have better ideas.
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Post by gathera on Mar 28, 2006 19:38:26 GMT -5
Some of the player characters houses may have persistent storage...but I really don't know. (Just a renter here.) You might be able to talk some one into storing the books if that is the case. Bag of holding *chortle* oh yes dime a dozen item. Great concept for your character but you might have to be very choosy on which books you keep. Maybe some one else will have a good suggestion.
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Post by Booze Hound on Mar 28, 2006 20:15:58 GMT -5
no persistant storage in us housed players or anywhere in FRC, there is a thread on it somewhere, but it aint around. Go with Ranan's idea and look up the ones you have in the toolset, and make a map, and place the books you have in the map, and voila! you can read them whenever you want.
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Post by Grozer on Mar 28, 2006 20:57:15 GMT -5
Logan's idea gave me another thought... I believe character journals are stored locally on your PC in one of the NWN folders. You coooouuuullllddddd cut and paste the text into your journal text file and always have the books with you in game without carrying them around!
I'd need to confirm the journal txt file thing first, but this might work.
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Post by Munroe on Mar 28, 2006 21:24:52 GMT -5
The in-game journal for your character is stored locally on your own computer in your localvault folder. The name of the file is charactername.txt where charactername is, of course, your character's name.
A side note for DMs: If you are possessing an NPC and write in the journal, that entry is stored as NPCname.txt in localvault folder too, so you can maintain different journals for different NPCs. The bad side? If you unpossess an NPC with the journal open, their journal replaces your DM avatar's journal. If you possess an NPC with your DM avatar journal open, the avatar's journal replaces your NPC's journal. So, yeah, don't unpossess an NPC with the journal open. I did that last week, had to "reconstruct" my DM avatar journal from memory.
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Post by olwentheold on Mar 28, 2006 23:20:24 GMT -5
The in-game journal for your character is stored locally on your own computer in your localvault folder. The name of the file is charactername.txt where charactername is, of course, your character's name. A side note for DMs: If you are possessing an NPC and write in the journal, that entry is stored as NPCname.txt in localvault folder too, so you can maintain different journals for different NPCs. The bad side? If you unpossess an NPC with the journal open, their journal replaces your DM avatar's journal. If you possess an NPC with your DM avatar journal open, the avatar's journal replaces your NPC's journal. So, yeah, don't unpossess an NPC with the journal open. I did that last week, had to "reconstruct" my DM avatar journal from memory. Thanks Munroe, that is a very useful piece of info there. |
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Post by sneakingyoda on Mar 29, 2006 11:41:11 GMT -5
no persistant storage in us housed players or anywhere in FRC, there is a thread on it somewhere, but it aint around. Go with Ranan's idea and look up the ones you have in the toolset, and make a map, and place the books you have in the map, and voila! you can read them whenever you want. Err.. ah make a map? What's the toolset? <--- NWN Noob here. |
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Post by sneakingyoda on Mar 29, 2006 12:37:21 GMT -5
Ok, I figured how to get intot he toolset, and I even figured out how to look at some of the books.
>.> Now comes the difficult part. I can't find all the books I have in the toolset.
For example: I now pocess a set of books about selective history of waterdeep (0-4) I can' t seem to find them.
If I can't find them in the tool set I'll have no choice but to screen shot them all and type them out by hand. (A process that I'm willing to do, but rather not.)
Any suggestions on how to get to them? (and simular books like them?)
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Post by DM Grizwald on Mar 29, 2006 12:39:30 GMT -5
I'll give you something i always do. I call it R&R. Its short for read and remember  |
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Post by Dachshund on Mar 29, 2006 23:31:58 GMT -5
Ok, I figured how to get intot he toolset, and I even figured out how to look at some of the books. >.> Now comes the difficult part. I can't find all the books I have in the toolset. For example: I now pocess a set of books about selective history of waterdeep (0-4) I can' t seem to find them. If I can't find them in the tool set I'll have no choice but to screen shot them all and type them out by hand. (A process that I'm willing to do, but rather not.) Any suggestions on how to get to them? (and simular books like them?) You may want to know that there are tons of books in the module that aren't standard NWN books. Don't know if they're CEP books though. Anyway, I was with a group, that recently recovered about 40-50 books from a demilich's lair, so in order to have them around, my character Vinduil posted on the local board in Isinhold that he'd like to donate those books he carries around to Kale. I know DM Justicar is looking into it right now... said something about such large inventories causing lag, but he wasn't sure. Hopefully we will be able to RP placing books to the bookshelves and Justi could add them in a later upgrade of the module... and I said, hopefully. Snuble. |
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Post by Spooks on Apr 1, 2006 17:06:21 GMT -5
You could always put that info into your "Journal", either a rundown, or painstakingly copy it word for word.
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Post by sneakingyoda on Apr 2, 2006 10:16:07 GMT -5
Yep, I've been taking screenshots of each book, and then I type them into MS word, and then I modify my game journal txt with a copy paste of the book.
Once I have the text and the screenshots saved in two places I go ahead and remove the book from my invantory.
It isn't that bad of a system. Once I widdle all the books down this way, I'll be able to keep up with it.
It will be worth it to my character in the end.
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Post by DM the Usurper on Apr 7, 2006 17:48:05 GMT -5
you could ask one of the wizards to burn the books onto a cd...books on tape that's been invented right?  |
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Post by DM Grizwald on Apr 9, 2006 17:32:00 GMT -5
Yeah, i get it for university for not being able to read right lol
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