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Feb 5, 2006 19:32:46 GMT -5
Post by anja73 on Feb 5, 2006 19:32:46 GMT -5
ok, I have been wanting to do this post for a few days. I have not gotten in trouble for farming. This is not a flame post, this is me wanting to find out exactly what it means. I've talked to about fifteen people, dms and players. I've asked each of them "What is farming?". Each person had similar ideas, but also very different. This is what I thought "Farming" was. I thought farming was going to the same place over and over. Going to very easy places, like me going to the kobolds. A walk in the park. I would like to find out what others think Farming is. Some think it's......if you go out hunting at all you are farming. Some think the same as me. I'd like to know thanks
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Feb 5, 2006 19:50:25 GMT -5
Post by soulfien on Feb 5, 2006 19:50:25 GMT -5
I think farming is ooc adventuring. That pretty much sums it up to me.
Going to the same place over and over and over is ooc- the cave or dungoen is clean! There aren't anymore monsters or loot there once you've torn through it once from an IC aspect.
Standing in one spot and waiting for spawns or loot to come back- farming.
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Feb 5, 2006 20:13:47 GMT -5
Post by Quadhund/Greenhouse on Feb 5, 2006 20:13:47 GMT -5
Farming to me is repeatedly visiting a place with in the span of a day or so. You can farm for either gold or xp. Typically farming is done in the fashion of soloing and is generally in areas that are below average challenge rating for the player.
It is, imo, extremely difficult to not farm, given the way NWN and FRC work (assuming you wish to level your character). However you can minimize the amount that you do by gathering a group and suggesting visiting areas that are difficult to accomplish (and impossible to do by yourself).
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Feb 5, 2006 20:50:40 GMT -5
Post by olwentheold on Feb 5, 2006 20:50:40 GMT -5
Farming to me is repeatedly visiting a place with in the span of a day or so. You can farm for either gold or xp. Typically farming is done in the fashion of soloing and is generally in areas that are below average challenge rating for the player. That basically sums it up. Going out "hunting" (as in hunting for xp and gp) is NOT farming by definition. Do note that heading out in search for XP or gold in itself is not farming, but the act of repeatedly milking a place of XP or gold (e.g., popular spots include the Mistwood Temple and the Scorpion Clan Camp). How often is often, you may ask? I think this is largely subjective to a few factors (i.e. class, level). We don't expect low-levels to wander Cormyr in search of new dungeons to adventure in and they are limited to a handful of dungeons, however, that being said - it still isn't acceptable for low-levels to revisit the Ruins/Catacombs/Water Cavern in Isinhold 5 times in a row and I've seen that happened! As a basic rule of thumb, with the exception of low-levels (maybe levels 1-4), visiting anyplace more than once in 24 hours is seriously asking for trouble. I personally like to give it a stretch of 2-3 days before I try a place again. We expect better from players who are higher level, simply because they have more places to go to and they should know better (by now) that farming is against the rules . . . nuff said. ok, I have been wanting to do this post for a few days. I have not gotten in trouble for farming. This is not a flame post, this is me wanting to find out exactly what it means. I've talked to about fifteen people, dms and players. I've asked each of them "What is farming?". Each person had similar ideas, but also very different. This is what I thought "Farming" was. I thought farming was going to the same place over and over. Going to very easy places, like me going to the kobolds. A walk in the park. I would like to find out what others think Farming is. Some think it's......if you go out hunting at all you are farming. Some think the same as me. I'd like to know thanks If you have any questions or are unsure about anything, please do not hesitate to approach a friendly neighborhood DM or post it on the boards
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Feb 6, 2006 21:41:05 GMT -5
Post by marklar on Feb 6, 2006 21:41:05 GMT -5
think of farming like actual farming. ok you know what farming crops is, planting crops, then collecting them, then repeating over and over. well in NWN it's the same thing.. going over and over to a place collecting the loot and getting all the xp. although i disagree with you Ainur 24 hours is simply not enough because even within 24 hours DM will slay you for farming, i would know
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Feb 6, 2006 22:39:42 GMT -5
Post by DM Richard (Retired) on Feb 6, 2006 22:39:42 GMT -5
Marklar said: "although i disagree with you Ainur 24 hours is simply not enough because even within 24 hours DM will slay you for farming, i would know" Ainur said: "As a basic rule of thumb, with the exception of low-levels (maybe levels 1-4), visiting anyplace more than once in 24 hours is seriously asking for trouble." Marklar why are you disagreeing with Ainur when you both said the same thing? As far as a DM slaying you... We don't slay (other than the occasional piano dropped on the head) unless you ignore everything we are saying to you and continue on like we are talking to the wall. And while farming is one reason... there are other reasons why we change things. But rather than hijack this thread read of them here. frc.proboards37.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1130519940
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Feb 7, 2006 16:07:33 GMT -5
Post by marklar on Feb 7, 2006 16:07:33 GMT -5
although i disagree with you Ainur 24 hours is simply not enough because even within 24 hours DM will slay you for farming, i would know lol oops mis-type i meant because even within 48... etc
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Feb 10, 2006 16:27:34 GMT -5
Post by DM the Usurper on Feb 10, 2006 16:27:34 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with someone going to the same place more then once within a 24hr period. ie. you do the adventure..then later on you meet some people and they are heading that way, and your redo it again.(now this is up to the player though and your characters story), but even then knowing you just cleared the area you could even tell the party I just cleared that area so you have no reason to go there or you can go along with the new group to make sure it is cleared..and whoa and behold they reformed and are at full strength again...lol well there is no right/wrong answer because FRC is not a one shot persistant world. For me to sum up infractions to farming would be to "lap" an area...waiting for spawns and treasure to pop back up even after clearing the area (not counting having to battle a spawn because of the timers being too short in duration, that is our fault) In the future we hope to have enough areas/encounters/quests so a player does not have to face these kinds of delimas.
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Manshin
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Feb 11, 2006 3:01:23 GMT -5
Post by Manshin on Feb 11, 2006 3:01:23 GMT -5
Be reasonable... Everyone knows when they are farming. When you are gaining a lot of XP and Gold by killing monsters over and over.. even if you rarly hit the same place twice, and you are by yourself while you are doing it.. you are farming.
FRC's high level characters should be those who RP and work in groups. Plain and simple. This is an RP server... not a get the most powerful character by beating up whimpy skeletons over and over and over server. Soloing is fun sometimes... and sometimes its a plain cure for bordum. But every player on here knows when they are just playing for fun because no ones around to party with, and when they are tirlessly trying to advance their character levels and wealth by repetitivly killing respawns over and over.
Manshin
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Sarah
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Feb 11, 2006 7:43:02 GMT -5
Post by Sarah on Feb 11, 2006 7:43:02 GMT -5
(sara)
what if play on GMT zone and you very really get see anyone on the server...many time I have been the only soul on FRC
btw been told I farm for gold...can someone tell me which areas are open for hunting at level 11?
been told mistwoods is not lvl 11 area so can tell where lvl 11 area is?
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Sarah
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Feb 11, 2006 7:55:26 GMT -5
Post by Sarah on Feb 11, 2006 7:55:26 GMT -5
(sara)
oh...may point out even when i'm alone I still RP but only with animal and some NPC
I do say farming is players who go to area that are WAY to easy for them...I.E. lvl 10 going to the Koblod cave south of Isinhold
here is list I have made up over time I have played FRC
lvl 1-5 crpyt in Isinhold, ruins in Isinhold, Koblod cave south of Isinhold and orcs to the east of isinhlod
lvl 6-10 woods north of isinhold, secret place west of isinhold, Island near isinhold docks and south east of isinhold
11-15 west of Isinhold (Zhen and keep), mistwoods and areas around it, south of Redmist (ruins and orge area) and around Suzail (orcs)
note that there are more areas but I wouldn't put them on becouse really long list but they are base areas
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Sarah
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Feb 11, 2006 8:00:58 GMT -5
Post by Sarah on Feb 11, 2006 8:00:58 GMT -5
(sara)
simple way knewing if your farming
if your get only 1-3 XP for kill and stay in there area all the time to loot and stuff...that is farming
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Feb 15, 2006 19:27:15 GMT -5
Post by Hackmaster on Feb 15, 2006 19:27:15 GMT -5
Ok, I have way to much to say on this subject and wrote a damn book so I deleted it and started over. ;D Farming is for example seeing someone run to Hashard every 15 minutes with his necklace quest cut that crap out I don't care if your a new or old player. You run through the Inn spam the chat window with that quest while people are trying to RP. Then run back out to hack your way straight to the necklace all over again...thats Farming. I think lower levels should be aloud some farming but try not to make it so obvious as that. As a player I have seen players start at first level and hit 12th within a month....sorry you guys but your farmers and you know it and don't dare try to say it's your quality RP that got you there. It took me 9 months to get to level 11 with Phelzaron I left the server for some 6 months been back for about 5 months and am now 16th nearly a month a level if you average it out. I picked up the pace a bit since I have been back I have been very active with players and DM's alike and have even been a borderline farmer a few times as most all, if not all have been guilty of at least being borderline at some point. Some have been caught others have flown under the radar regardless there is farming then there is excessive farming and thats what one should worry about. When I was on here the first time I would say I was very inactive with DM's I rarely spoke to them unless I had a technical issue and was on maybe one or two quests in that whole time I was on the server. I was only active with a select group of players but I still rarely farmed I mean 9 months and I was around 10th or 11th level that speaks for itself I think. I could probably hit 10th with a character in under two months if I wanted to here easily and thats farming plain and simple. Basically, two types of farming to me and they can be both done at the same time. There is farming a place over and over to excess and then there is farming by way of never sitting still for three seconds to RP with other players, NPC's/DM's, yourself, ect,ect...These types may not always hit the same spot but talk to almost nobody, run everywhere, and show none or almost none in the way of RP even if you tried to go on the idea they are mysterious and introverted. Yet manage to hit 10th level in a month and suddenly start to try to PvP anyone that IC "ticks" their character off. These characters to me are usually fairly obvious having say 1 level of a class to gain some special benefit like say use of all wizard scrolls. while having 9 levels of cleric, barbarian, or Fighter. Not to say everyone with 1 level in something while having the rest in another class is automatically a power gamer with the intent to PvP. I know several players that are good RPers that have taken a single level and not acted foolish. Those of you using Time Stop or Implosion just cause all the scrolls are unlocked for you for that one level you took....Your abusing NWN's coding for an advantage in PvP. My personal opinion its still a bit weak and I would never allow it at my table I don't care how good an RPer the player was, that was not the spirit that dual classing was intended. Few would do that though in PnP cause PvP rarely happens at the gaming table....If you got this way in a month or two and you talk to almost nobody then suddenly you start trying to hack down the weaker players and claim it was RP'd cause they crossed your character. Your not just a farmer....Nuff said. The worst type of player that is nearly impossible to redeem or reform into a quality player is the ones that do all of what I just mentioned. They hardly ever learn to calm down. As usual this is the watered down version of my first attempt to write about this. I know it's still really long and part of it deviates slightly but I just can't help it haha
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Feb 16, 2006 21:11:48 GMT -5
Post by DM Grizwald on Feb 16, 2006 21:11:48 GMT -5
hey dirk, i agree with what you said but i think what anja was trying to clarify is the subject of trying to farm and not what ticks you off lots of stuff has been thrown here and i hope anja you got a picture of what farming is. I had to learn the hard way when i first started
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