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Post by Munroe on Mar 9, 2005 19:34:21 GMT -5
Hello. I am thinking of playing on this server but before I create a character I have a question regarding server rules. I did not see this documented but I may have overlooked it or it simply may not be documented. My question is this:
What are the multi-class rules on paladins here? I have played servers in the past that said "You must take X number of paladin levels" or "You must alternate paladin with any multi-class, and that multi-class must be acceptable in the paladin's order" or simply "paladins may not multi-class."
My intention is to make a ranger/paladin of Kelemvor.
The information I have on this comes from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, page 26. The sidebar, titled "Special Paladin Orders" has this for Kelemvor:
Now the way I read that, a paladin of Kelemvor takes paladin levels then can multi-class as a ranger or cleric. My intention would be to take ranger and paladin levels alternating at a 1/1 ratio, but if it is preferred that all the paladin levels be taken first as per the book, that would be fine too. I'd just like some documentation on what the paladin rules are here before I roll a character.
Also, how are Champions of Torm treated on this server? Some servers say "Champions of Torm must be followers of Torm" while other servers say "Champion of Torm should have just been Divine Champion. We treat it as such." Oh, and just in case, what are the multi-class rules specific to Champions of Torm? I realise that no prestige classes may be taken until level 10+ but I would like additional information.
Thank you for your attention in this matter.
Wolf Munroe
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Post by Talus on Mar 9, 2005 21:44:02 GMT -5
I to am Curious about the Champion of Torm. Vashal Thought about it but he does not Worship Torm.
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Post by thogrimur on Mar 9, 2005 22:17:28 GMT -5
I would think that (given the quote provided) it would appear that you should take the paladin levels first before leaving the path to multiclass as a ranger. Perhaps there are other paladins than those of Kelemvor that would allow the free multiclassing option if that is what you are looking for... I know...let's ask Many as One, he lives to research this kind of information!  Heh heh. (And I see you on site at the moment, probably looking up the answer already as I type) What do you say MaO? Are there other brands of paladin that allow free multiclassing? |
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Post by Munroe on Mar 10, 2005 1:58:25 GMT -5
There are multiple paladin orders in Forgotten Realms that allow free multi-classing to certain classes. I'm not asking the FR rule on paladin multi-classing, I'm asking particularly the server rules on paladin multi-classing.
My intention is to make a Kelemvorite ranger/paladin multi-class. It's simply more convenient to alternate the classes RP-wise so they can be a ranger/paladin from the get-go. If the server exclusively follows the FR rules then no problem, I can take all the paladin levels first. I just want to know mainly this:
1. Does this server allow multi-classing paladins?
2. Is there a rule on on this server regarding multi-classing paladins regardless of religion? (Such as "You must have no less than 10 paladin levels.")
3. Is the paladin class enforced differently on a per religion basis on this server? (IE multi-classing freely and not)
Secondary questions:
1. Is Champion of Torm treated as a class specifically for Tormites or is it treated as a general Divine Champion prestige class? Most servers I've played treat as a general Divine Champion class, but I can think of at least one that treats it as a Torm-only class as the name implies.
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Post by Kolfrosta on Mar 10, 2005 4:49:35 GMT -5
There is a thread in the Lore of the Lands area, on page 2, Paladin Orders, and all the multi-classing rules that go with it.
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Post by Forum Administrator on Mar 10, 2005 5:31:20 GMT -5
Also, how are Champions of Torm treated on this server? Some servers say "Champions of Torm must be followers of Torm" while other servers say "Champion of Torm should have just been Divine Champion. We treat it as such." Oh, and just in case, what are the multi-class rules specific to Champions of Torm? We treat the Champion of Torm PrC as Divine Champion, as many other churches have Holy Warriors that doesn't necessarily require them to be Paladins. Of course, this means that you cannot be a Divine Champion of Bane since it would require some editing on the Champion of Torm PrC files because of the Alignment Restriction upon the Champion of Torm PrC, but should you wish to play a "Divine Champion of Bane", for instance, multiclass as Blackguard later on, and roleplay the rest from there. With regards to multiclassing, the Divine Champions (Champion of Torm) have the same restrictions as the Paladin class. Here's a list of how to treat your multiclassing depending on your Deity. frc.proboards37.com/index.cgi?board=lore&action=display&thread=1099023128Cheers, DM Bassa |
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Post by Munroe on Mar 10, 2005 7:19:20 GMT -5
Thank you both. I read the rules post but I didn't look in the Lore of the Land section. That doesn't really say "Look here for rules" to me. I mistook it for an in-game/in-character history section by its title. So you do just follow the FR rules on it. The information on that page is directly from the source I quoted above. What about in cases where the deity doesn't allow paladins? How do you handle multiclassing options then? (Or is there a general rule you're referring to that I've still missed?) |
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Post by Forum Administrator on Mar 10, 2005 7:23:34 GMT -5
Your hands would be somewhat free at that point then, but of course, no ridiculousness multiclassing will be tolerated.
It would make it a whole lot easier if you could just hand me an example of what you're wanting to play?
Cheers,
DM Bassa
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Post by Munroe on Mar 10, 2005 13:24:17 GMT -5
I'm just asking about Divine Champions in general at this point. I plan to play a paladin/ranger of Kelemvor and my question regarding him has already been answered. If I do play a Divine Champion, it will probably be a ranger/divine champion of Shaundakul but that is somewhere down the road if at all, especially given that he'll need 9 ranger levels before I can consider taking the prestige class. I currently have a level one bard on the server that will be a bard/cleric.
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Post by thogrimur on Mar 10, 2005 13:55:48 GMT -5
By the way Wolf....welcome to the FRC server! I really thought I had that incorporated into my first reply back to you...read it again later and realized I had failed to do so.
Hope that you have a good time during your stay!
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Post by Munroe on Mar 11, 2005 1:15:42 GMT -5
Thanks. I'll try not to grate on anyone's nerves too much.
I would have been playing some earlier today but my game would not let me look at the last page of some merchants. Basically if the last tab was full, my game would crash. (I tested it on another server and it was something on my end because it did it there too. I think it was something with the upgrade to CEP1.51, which I just did yesterday.) I left the game installing while I went to work and I just got the patches and CEP back on now. I have tested on the merchant in the start zone and it works now. So glad. I'll probably play my bard/cleric a bit before messing around with the paladin. (Right now my bard/cleric is just a bard but that will change quickly at level 2.)
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Post by DM Richard (Retired) on Mar 11, 2005 8:26:21 GMT -5
Trap components are causing the crash. When I get home from work I'll search NWN Vault for the fix again and post it.
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Post by AnvilX on Mar 11, 2005 9:16:05 GMT -5
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Post by DM Richard (Retired) on Mar 11, 2005 14:55:46 GMT -5
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Post by DM the Usurper on Mar 29, 2005 21:46:07 GMT -5
From this point on the Divine champion of Torm will only be allowed if it is a Diving Champion of DM Urgurth the Usurper ... thank you for your time |
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Post by Munroe on Mar 30, 2005 2:12:31 GMT -5
Great, because I just rolled up a character that worships DM Urgurth the Usurper. Now to get him to level 9...
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Post by Kolfrosta on Mar 30, 2005 7:14:04 GMT -5
I know you guys have been working hard, and putting a lot of new things into the mod. But, I have to know, is this new Prestige Class going to be from the 3 meter high dive...or maybe this is cliffdiving?
Sorry, I couldn't resist........ ;D
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Post by louminator on Mar 30, 2005 13:57:04 GMT -5
Slightly off topic, but just wanted to give a heads up regarding the Champion prestige class. If you wish to play a Champion of Ilmater, it will not work correctly with the Champion of Torm. The class requires taking Weapon Focus in a melee weapon. Keeping true to roleplaying, we (as roleplayers) institute a condition that the weapon chosen must be the deity's favored weapon. Ilmater favors unarmed attacks, which is not recognized by the game engine as a melee weapon. If the prospect came up (and since it is listed as an allowable multi-class option for monks of Ilmater), what would the DMs recommend as a fix for this?
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Post by thogrimur on Mar 30, 2005 15:23:28 GMT -5
Well, since the god in question is Ilmater, I would just say....SUFFER! ;D
(Heh heh, I couldn't let that one by, sorry!)
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Post by Munroe on Jul 29, 2006 4:29:51 GMT -5
I never did get around to making a paladin. Heh.
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Post by Munroe on Jan 20, 2009 1:42:41 GMT -5
Since I just answered a question about paladin multi-classing in the Lore of the Lands section, I got an urge to bump this thread.
This is the first thread I ever started on the FRC forum.
The answer to my question was already posted in the Lore of the Lands section at the time, but I wasn't familiar enough with the FRC forum to know to look there.
I did eventually multi-class my bard/cleric as a divine champion though. (This is not in keeping with the divine champion multi-classing answer Bassa gave in this thread, but it is in line with the divine champion rules.)
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Post by Micteu on Jan 22, 2009 10:50:05 GMT -5
Wow, that was nearly four thousand posts ago.
So where are the Divine Champion rules at?
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Heh heh. (And I see you on site at the moment, probably looking up the answer already as I type)
