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Post by ladyphoenix on Sept 11, 2023 17:47:44 GMT -5
If a druid starts walking around greatgaunt or other town in bear form? Can we subdue the bear and drag it out of town?
If someone commits crime, can we act against them?
What can players do when people take advantage of Staff not being around 24/7 to blatantly break the law or rules.
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Post by DM Betelgeuse on Sept 12, 2023 4:51:23 GMT -5
Hello Lady Pheonix, This conversation has been had on the forums before and the answer was provided there, I am pretty sure, so I will keep it brief and to the point  If a player sees in character law breaking they can ping the DM channel, and if nobody is on or the DM/EDM that is on is busy elsewhere, they can file a report to the Red Ravens in order to officially report the crime in character (usually done on the forums). The Red Ravens will then either decide to, or decide not to, investigate the reported crime - depending on the severity of it, if they are busy and so forth. If your PC feels that strongly about the issue they can even challenge the law breaker to a dual outside of town, making use of the new subdue system, to punish their wrong doings. If a REALLY chaotic pc is around, they may decide to just take matters into their own hands. And if they did not see that the druid wildshaped, they may kill said bear. This is the joy of roleplay, there are a multitude of different avenues that can be taken to resolve an in character issue. Which is what law breaking is (save for a few very specific instances), it is an in character action to be resolved in character. Having that said - if you feel that there is "godmoding" going on, the art of completely ignoring all NPC's and the setting because a DM is not around, this would be considered as metagaming behaviour and should be reported to the DM of your choice with logs/screenshots and so on. I hope that helps |
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Post by Animayhem on Sept 12, 2023 11:55:31 GMT -5
I have seen this before. If no one saw the player shift then it could be assumed to be a bear. If someone already has true sight up before the bear even entered they could readily see that it is not a natural bear.
Shifted can still understand human speech. There are ways in my opinion to broach this. My character would say in general something like ." Oh a new bearskin rug for Bentin."
Or they would say something like, " Shifted forms not allowed in town best go and change if you are one."
I would watch and see. I have seen shifted come into town and walk towards the woods or go behind Garrots and returned to their natural form.
Just as your character may have an rp reason to capture or kill the player who shifted also has the right to shift and play as such. With the subudal mode you can knock them them out.
Maybe they are a new druid and still learning how to shift.
That is how I roll with shifters.
In regards to others how I see it.
If it is a more serious law then I would talk to the person and as Betel mentioned can do a fight with subdual.
However my characters would give a warning. I would still ping the dm channel and if noone one i would take screens and save the log, then report in the forum.
The logs and screens would be my evidence.
Again this is how I approach these situations.
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Post by ladyphoenix on Sept 12, 2023 12:53:20 GMT -5
Hello Lady Pheonix, This conversation has been had on the forums before and the answer was provided there, I am pretty sure, so I will keep it brief and to the point If a player sees in character law breaking they can ping the DM channel, and if nobody is on or the DM/EDM that is on is busy elsewhere, they can file a report to the Red Ravens in order to officially report the crime in character (usually done on the forums). The Red Ravens will then either decide to, or decide not to, investigate the reported crime - depending on the severity of it, if they are busy and so forth. If your PC feels that strongly about the issue they can even challenge the law breaker to a dual outside of town, making use of the new subdue system, to punish their wrong doings. If a REALLY chaotic pc is around, they may decide to just take matters into their own hands. And if they did not see that the druid wildshaped, they may kill said bear. This is the joy of roleplay, there are a multitude of different avenues that can be taken to resolve an in character issue. Which is what law breaking is (save for a few very specific instances), it is an in character action to be resolved in character. Having that said - if you feel that there is "godmoding" going on, the art of completely ignoring all NPC's and the setting because a DM is not around, this would be considered as metagaming behaviour and should be reported to the DM of your choice with logs/screenshots and so on. I hope that helps If you see a bear in town, should you just reprt it to red ravens or subdue it and get it out of town (this goes by the concept you didn't see them shift. just saw the bear shortly after that same druid talked about a bear walking around town). You don't know it is a druid shifted. IS it okay to attack the wild animal? |
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Post by Asgardian Grey Hawk on Sept 12, 2023 12:55:38 GMT -5
I attack shifted pcs quite often IG not recently on Thrulith but all my other pcs do quite often
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Post by DM Betelgeuse on Sept 12, 2023 13:11:50 GMT -5
Hello Lady Pheonix, This conversation has been had on the forums before and the answer was provided there, I am pretty sure, so I will keep it brief and to the point If a player sees in character law breaking they can ping the DM channel, and if nobody is on or the DM/EDM that is on is busy elsewhere, they can file a report to the Red Ravens in order to officially report the crime in character (usually done on the forums). The Red Ravens will then either decide to, or decide not to, investigate the reported crime - depending on the severity of it, if they are busy and so forth. If your PC feels that strongly about the issue they can even challenge the law breaker to a dual outside of town, making use of the new subdue system, to punish their wrong doings. If a REALLY chaotic pc is around, they may decide to just take matters into their own hands. And if they did not see that the druid wildshaped, they may kill said bear. This is the joy of roleplay, there are a multitude of different avenues that can be taken to resolve an in character issue. Which is what law breaking is (save for a few very specific instances), it is an in character action to be resolved in character. Having that said - if you feel that there is "godmoding" going on, the art of completely ignoring all NPC's and the setting because a DM is not around, this would be considered as metagaming behaviour and should be reported to the DM of your choice with logs/screenshots and so on. I hope that helps If you see a bear in town, should you just reprt it to red ravens or subdue it and get it out of town (this goes by the concept you didn't see them shift. just saw the bear shortly after that same druid talked about a bear walking around town). You don't know it is a druid shifted. IS it okay to attack the wild animal? Some of my PC's would, have and will |
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Post by DM Flash on Sept 12, 2023 15:03:57 GMT -5
The main thing is to have fun, and stay IC. Be the good example for others to look up to and follow rather than stooping to their level. An LG and an NE would likely handle the situation differently and both can be equally fun, so your character's response would be up to their ethical and moral mindset. Maybe you cast something non-lethal like Grease to "tar" the shifter, maybe you think it really is a bear and lure it away with food, or maybe it -is- food and you want to kill it and grill it. Whichever way you decide to roll with it, just be mindful that all characters are accountable for their IC actions. Screenshots and logs are great resources to use when posting on the forums, where players can report observations to their local authorities and essentially hand it off to the Staff. |
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Post by grivel on Sept 13, 2023 14:30:45 GMT -5
I attack shifted pcs quite often IG not recently on Thrulith but all my other pcs do quite often Your PCs would attack small children if they liked the candy they were eating. |
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Post by Asgardian Grey Hawk on Sept 13, 2023 16:50:42 GMT -5
I attack shifted pcs quite often IG not recently on Thrulith but all my other pcs do quite often Your PCs would attack small children if they liked the candy they were eating. Aris most likely lol |
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Post by Masterbard Alyster Darkharp on Sept 13, 2023 17:51:16 GMT -5
I watched Ailren kill someone’s pixie familiar with a fire based spell and then eat it. 1372 man.
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Post by PhatDorf on Sept 13, 2023 18:15:32 GMT -5
I remember Mobius walking by, and killing someone's familiar, and then waltzing out of Greatgaunt pretty much without stopping, when I was pretty new.
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