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Post by mysticalkas on Jun 20, 2015 14:58:40 GMT -5
Greetings FRC. I am placing this here just because its Role play discussion type stuff...if it i in the wrong place please feel free to move it.
I have been questioning a lot of issues with Amilith lately. Many questions that I really cannot answer on my own because, well it is dealing with the way you all perceive him and what everyone thinks about him. So I am opening this up to you all so that you may be as brutally honest as you can....please explain the reasons why your feel this way, as a player, I do enjoy RP, though I know I am not the top of the line with it. I am just curious as to your thoughts of him, the way he is, what you know of him from your characters points of view....Please separate what your character feels from what the player feels....this will help me see what it is that may be problematic and I will explain the reasons behind such...I know his not speaking common will probably be a big hit so I will explain that now....The reason he does not speak common is--
---He wishes to remind other kin who come to these lands that the elven presence and The Way of the People linger still. It is his hope that those who feel lost will hear his words as a beacon, to return home (meaning come talk to him) and share your life for he will open his heart to you and offer what aid he can to those who wish it.----
So this being said, please let me know how your character views him and why we do or do not interact, what you think him to be as apposed to what you know of him IG, how you feel he sees you or what he thinks of you....
Aside from a very few people on this server there is a great deal to Amilith... And since I mentioned the reason Amilith does not speak common....did anyone expect this to be the real reason???
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Post by mysticalkas on Jun 20, 2015 15:08:10 GMT -5
Oh yea...If it is something you do not want others to read please feel free to send a PM about it. just say PM send so others are encouraged to continue to post
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 18:56:03 GMT -5
A bunch of elves speaking elven? But..but that's like a bunch of Germans speaking German, Ach mein gott! It'll never catch on.
Language...well, walk down any street in any nation, if you see a group of foreigners, they are usually talking to each other in their own tongue, so I'd respectfully tell anyone hating on elves for speaking their language, it's only logical. It's RP and part of the game. No one hates on for you for speaking Common...Infernal...Celestial...Klingon.....
I have interacted with Amilith twice, I think, and both times you impressed me from our short meetings. I liked him. Playing an elf is not easy sometimes. My elf is a wood elf, she is tolerant of humans to a point but some of her kind would probably never set foot in a human settlement and would only do so for a good reason. She's also been out of action for a while so maybe I should stop by and refresh my memory of him.
I'm impressed when people stick in character and don't give in to pressure to behave in a certain way just because it's easier. Whatever your character does, as long as it's in-character for them to do it, they should keep on trucking, unless of course you want to change roads. In the end, the only critic you have to please is yourself, no one else.
Anyone who is worth knowing will take the time to get to know him.
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Post by Fenix on Jun 20, 2015 19:16:58 GMT -5
I don't know who Amilith is, I've probably seen him in-game a dozen times but I most likely perceive him like I perceive all other elves. Some generic elven moron with excessive apostrophes and hyphens in their name, standing around in a human settlement and frantically spamming A4's of keymash gibberish because of some RP reason that is engineered out of this trend that players want to spam text in a codified language system. Typically the RP reason always boils down to pride or something of similar style, strangely enough that same pride doesn't keep those elves from entering the settlements to begin with which is a shame really. BOOM, described 99% of Cormyr's elven populace. I'm not so sure if it's supposed to be a joke, you're trying to provoke or whatever this is. But ismply, you're not funny, and this isn't helping Mystic in any way. He breeds off of spawning needless *bovine manure* on the forums. Amilith i have known and been company withbsince the characters creation. Fenix and i both know very little due to the nature of their relationship, beyond that Amilith is secretive and immesnely dedicated to the causes he serves. Ill expand more after work |
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Post by Pedantry INC on Jun 20, 2015 19:18:11 GMT -5
I've met amilith several times and I quite like him as a character. He's very consistent, which is a big mark in his favor. He has felt difficult to approach on various characters for various reasons. My own elf, being ultra polite, prefers to speak common in human settlements as a part of social politeness. She doesn't like excluding people as, in her own totally racist sun elf way, she wants to set a good example for everyone, thus be welcoming and fair in her treatment of others. Humans are certainly most oft little better than children, but if they can't understand their teachers, they're not going to learn are they?! She still very much likes Amilith though when they are able to get the time to spend a bit of time together. He always seems so very calm and thoughtful, which is great! He's probably one of her preferred people. Mirmir of course can't speak elven. So while she's curious about Amilith, she's not interested in dealing with his one way language barrier. She doesn't like that sort of thing, as to her it seems like an intentional behavior that ultimately results in ignorance due to the large swath of interaction he will never have because of it. She tends to feel that the more open and willing to challenge everything people are, the better. So I'm not sure they'll ever get along. I don't think any of my other PCs know him. My own view of Amilith is that he's an interesting character that likely has a story to tell, and hopefully one day we manage to get to RP enough for me to see some of it  We seem to have very different playtimes though. Alas! Largely though I think whatever Amiliths reasons are or story is, they are his own, and RP is based on our characters personality, not the perception of other characters or their players. My elf is a wood elf, she is tolerant of humans to a point but some of her kind would probably never set foot in a human settlement and would only do so for a good reason. She's also been out of action for a while so maybe I should stop by and refresh my memory of him. Actually wood elves are quite known for working with humans and human settlements. Their lore, similar to moon elves, cites them accepting that humans are a living part of the world and that working with them is the best option. They typically seek to live along side humans when in the same region with a hope to help guide their expansion and influence respect for the wild. Most elven society isn't necessarily supremest, even if they are a bit racist (ie they might generally consider the lesser races in need of guidance and suffering from a fair number of deficits, but they'll still work with them and even respect/admire some of the things about them), and most live long enough to speak common quite fluently. I largely think a better understanding of the in depth expansive lore on culture that is available would go a long way to improving the relations that are mentioned by Uncle Dolan above. Which is one of the reasons why I included source based RP hints in my guide: frc.proboards.com/thread/23700/frc-summarized-character-creation-guide?page=1&scrollTo=255260 |
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Post by Syd's Blue Sky on Jun 20, 2015 19:20:39 GMT -5
Forum moderated.... carrry on, folks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 19:38:30 GMT -5
My elf is a wood elf, she is tolerant of humans to a point but some of her kind would probably never set foot in a human settlement and would only do so for a good reason. She's also been out of action for a while so maybe I should stop by and refresh my memory of him. Actually wood elves are quite known for working with humans and human settlements. Their lore, similar to moon elves, cites them accepting that humans are a living part of the world and that working with them is the best option. They typically seek to live along side humans when in the same region with a hope to help guide their expansion and influence respect for the wild. I'm overly-familiar with elven lore, thanks. I speak in a general sense in regards to lore PLUS in-character events that shape a personality - she is a ranger, a wood elf and a former Warden, still a resident of the elven settlement. This is what I meant by "her kind" in a broader sense and her home hasn't been known for being too welcoming to humans in the past, very picky about who it let in. On the one side, my character is very tolerant and has worked with more humans than I can remember but she's also had years of being attacked and goaded by other, evil humans on a regular basis. One gets a grump on  It's her personal reaction. Back on topic, anyway. |
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Post by goldenhearts on Jun 20, 2015 20:43:45 GMT -5
My thoughts on Amilith....well. Eil'lia's thoughts are rather obvious. She thinks he's a moron, as in all the conversations we had his only response was *shrugs* this got tiresome quickly. My other thoughts are pretty obvious, due to how a "Ark" is meant to be approachable and charismatic. Amilith is neither of those, and instead attempts to be secretive yet unlikable by many. I have found this out in character mind you, and not many will willingly post their thoughts.
As a player, my thoughts are....pretty much the same. I'm sorry, but events have proved that Amilith as a character is not cut out to be a "leader" and therefore has caused the downfall of the Wardens in my eyes. As for speaking only Elven, the odd thing is Eil'lia has a reason to only speak Elven which is very similar, however. Mine was due to joining the clergy, but. Those barriers are easily broken if people can be bothered to try to break them.
So in a nutshell, I do not like Amilith as a character. Although I am being honest about the character, this should not reflect on the player. As I don't know you as a person, so I can only draw upon what I know. Which is rather limited.
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Post by mysticalkas on Jun 20, 2015 21:59:27 GMT -5
My thoughts on Amilith....well. Eil'lia's thoughts are rather obvious. She thinks he's a moron, as in all the conversations we had his only response was *shrugs* this got tiresome quickly. My other thoughts are pretty obvious, due to how a "Ark" is meant to be approachable and charismatic. Amilith is neither of those, and instead attempts to be secretive yet unlikable by many. I have found this out in character mind you, and not many will willingly post their thoughts. As a player, my thoughts are....pretty much the same. I'm sorry, but events have proved that Amilith as a character is not cut out to be a "leader" and therefore has caused the downfall of the Wardens in my eyes. As for speaking only Elven, the odd thing is Eil'lia has a reason to only speak Elven which is very similar, however. Mine was due to joining the clergy, but. Those barriers are easily broken if people can be bothered to try to break them. So in a nutshell, I do not like Amilith as a character. Although I am being honest about the character, this should not reflect on the player. As I don't know you as a person, so I can only draw upon what I know. Which is rather limited. I would agree that our characters dealings in the past have been very strained lol. There was so much crammed into such a short time of them knowing each other it made it very difficult to actually get to know each other. Maybe when time passes they will speak at some point, who knows...But I do appreciate your comments and am not upset by them. This helps me learn more about my RP style and see what barriers I face now as apposed to future ones. Because of a number of thing happening IRL I did create more characters that have no comparison with Amilith...the experience has been noticed in their interaction with others..Thank you so much for sharing... |
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Post by mandene on Jun 21, 2015 2:26:41 GMT -5
What do I think of Amilith.. hm... Amilith, together with Amir, was one of the first characters Ariean met on FRC. Amir was much more outgoing and after Ariean had "a go at him" he changed to be a little more like her. Ariean adored Amir. He was the perfect sidekick, partner in crime and what have you - whatever she came up with he went along with, and the other way around. I think the duo Amir/Amilith was working in Amilith's favor, at least to begin with. Whenever Amilith was on, he and Amir were unseparable. And yet for a long time Ariean had no clue what Amilith was about, except that he was Amir's quiet, sulking cousin who tended to frown at her every 2nd sentence For some weird reason, after a while, Ariean decided it was cute and started to view Amilith as the duo's (a.k.a Ariean-Amir duo) maskot. How many times will Amilith frown today, was her unspoken private game. I rememer we sometimes called the group the 3A's or something similar. And at least at one time were trying to gather people who's name started with A for dungeon crawls. Just because. In truth, Ariean didn't think Amilith even liked her (because of all the frowning), she thought that at best he tolerated her presence because of her friendship with Amir. Her eyes really only opened at Amilith when people who she had respect for, said respectful things about him, that she had no idea about. ("Wait, what? who? Are you sure you're talking about the same cousin?"). She also kicked herself for a short time about being blind when it comes to Amilith, but for what reason is too much personal rp-wise. Today Ariean has deepest respect for Amilith, and she trusts him with her life. However, they are in many ways very different people. I don't know why, but she feels their conversations are awkward, and in truth they never had one that is deep - like she had with Amir. So while she understands Amilith's goals (and while he probably understands hers), they've never shared a single conversation about it. |
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Post by Rane on Jun 21, 2015 5:05:03 GMT -5
The few times I have encountered Amilith I have enjoyed interaction with him.
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Post by mysticalkas on Jun 21, 2015 8:32:25 GMT -5
ohhh thanks for that...Amir was a huge part of Amilith in the beginning and in some ways still is. They been through so much together. It has been a while and due to the time difference it has been a bit difficult for our characters to really spend time together. But there is more to come, and I hope I can jump start my RP a bit more with what others say. Figuring out how to broaden Amilith is a challenge due to his "Personality and way he views things" lol
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Post by appleseedy on Jun 23, 2015 16:14:56 GMT -5
i have never played a character that speaks elven who has met amilith. yes elves speaking elven to each makes sense. german guy who speaks fluent english in england pretending he doesn't? i don't really get it.
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Post by Kiyohime 🐍 on Jun 23, 2015 16:55:21 GMT -5
i have never played a character that speaks elven who has met amilith. yes elves speaking elven to each makes sense. german guy who speaks fluent english in england pretending he doesn't? i don't really get it. I can't say I disagree with this point. Kiyo always thought Amilith didn't know a word of common until he started writting during their elven lessons. I think it is fun trying to come up with ways to communicate and I have had some laughs with the two of them many times, but really knowing the reason behind it feels kind "oh, well, right" now. That aside, Amilith is a cool character. Stoic, brooding and fiercely loyal peeps are always awesome, but then again... I am biased. |
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Post by styxxbone1 on Jun 24, 2015 20:20:00 GMT -5
Furin likes Amilith, can't understand a word he says, so kinda like the Spanish speaking robot on Red vs Blue, Furin just assumes whatever Amilith says is exactly what Furin wants him to say at that particular moment. Seems to work fine.
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We seem to have very different playtimes though. Alas! 
It's her personal reaction. Back on topic, anyway.
