Personal Criticism

[Fenix]

Uh oh, here I go again. But under a different tone! To any DMs viewing this, if it gets much too heated or you see this thread going too poorly, please feel free to lock it. I created it of my own volition and curiousity. DMs are welcome to post their thoughts here just as well though, as I want to hear it from EVERYBODY.


So lets begin.


Fenix Vale, the Wild Son of Silvanus, The Faceless One. All of the names he fancies being called by. He is not your average druid. He started out with very non druidic habits, but that was because of his path to becoming one. Over time, he improved. But he does not behave like other druids. Most hold themselves to a high level of prestige or class, fancying themselves more as a force of good than anything. Fenix is different. He plays his neutrality quite well, but more.....he has the display of his personal side. His races, his humanity (elvinity too since hes a half elf). They show through him.

What is the point of this post? Not to toot his horn for being different or anything. I have played with many who are very depthful characters. What I seek, is your criticism. Make it constructive, not bashful. Tell me what you see as a problem with him. How you hate my RP or like what I may do here or there. Tell me what you think of the character. I want to discuss this, so maybe as I develop my character, there is something I can put into consideration.

Dont just think of recent events. Think of everything from the entire time I have been here on Fenix. If there is something I did that you did not understand, or would just like some information on before criticizing, please feel free to ask. Can I promise I will take every bit of advice here? No. I very well may take nothing. But It gives the opportunity for growth yet. This being my first DND experience, I play Fenix to the standards that I know how with all of the sources I find about my class, which are sparse on many topics. So why not let some of the players give me their opinions?


Fire away, friends.




EDIT: Please do keep in mind, I do not hold grudges. So do not just negate a post for fear that I will let it be brought IC. If you and I have a disagreement somewhere, it stays on the forums and will likely be forgotten. This post is made by Nick, not Fenix. They are two different people with two different minds. How could Fenix treat somebody badly if he doesnt even know them?

[Blazingshadowz]

I know this isn't critisicm, but here's my opinion!

Druids are in a strong variety, and I think it's refreshing to meet a druid that has more of an emotional side, than a traditional side. It gives his character some depth, and makes him stand out a bit more. From what I understand though, druids are mostly guardians of the earth, and can express many ways in wishing to defend it. I'm in no position to say you haven't done this, but to help develop your character, I would suggest considering his morals, and what he strongly considers to be right, as it's something that druids often strive to preserve, or to mold their enviroment as how they see things should be.

I'd just like to see more interaction with the class, instead of the skills it provides. (More druid, less polymorph! )

Hope that helps/Is something you were looking for!

[hellscream123]

If he's nuetral i've seen you portray him as somewhat chaotic with his constant disreguard to the laws about shifting; just what i've seen; otherwise he's been his own character and view on druidism as a whole.

[EDM Entori]

my limited contact echoes hellscream, the shifting to me is peculiar, not because he shifts often, because he draws attention to himself within a town. he also seems very at home in cities, which is not bad, there are druids that live within cities. but it is curious that he would shift as often and as public as he does. NPC commoners, would be running in fear. though if your working towards the shifter class, it kind of makes sense.

[Fenix]

Aug 28, 2013 10:37:26 GMT -5 EDM Entori said:

my limited contact echoes hellscream, the shifting to me is peculiar, not because he shifts often, because he draws attention to himself within a town. he also seems very at home in cities, which is not bad, there are druids that live within cities. but it is curious that he would shift as often and as public as he does. NPC commoners, would be running in fear. though if your working towards the shifter class, it kind of makes sense.

Ive actually achieved it, which is why it is so common for him to do so. As far as cities, thats a character background thing above his class. He was a child at a time, and he grew up in small towns. He spent much of his time in the forests, where he felt truly at home and at peace with the world, but the cities had never ceased to peak his fascination.

If he's nuetral i've seen you portray him as somewhat chaotic with his constant disreguard to the laws about shifting; just what i've seen; otherwise he's been his own character and view on druidism as a whole.

Chaotic Neutral Best defined as free spirited. Good observation though.

Druids are in a strong variety, and I think it's refreshing to meet a druid that has more of an emotional side, than a traditional side. It gives his character some depth, and makes him stand out a bit more. From what I understand though, druids are mostly guardians of the earth, and can express many ways in wishing to defend it. I'm in no position to say you haven't done this, but to help develop your character, I would suggest considering his morals, and what he strongly considers to be right, as it's something that druids often strive to preserve, or to mold their enviroment as how they see things should be.

I'd just like to see more interaction with the class, instead of the skills it provides. (More druid, less polymorph! )

Hope that helps/Is something you were looking for!

Ah there we are! He has shown some of his personal morals, as you may have witnessed yesterday by going to heal Rikard instead of using his spells to aide himself. A protective desire for all creatures, humans too, before his own safety. His druidic tendancies are much less common, that I will admit, and that is something im still piecing together how to work out myself. He prays fairly often at the Silvanus temple and in the woods, and has shown obvious displeasure in the harm of the animals, healing any who are injured, but im still trying to press more at discovering what I can do personally with him, rather than just use the same ideas that I would see with for example one of my friends who plants herbs or flowers.

I appreciate the input on his personality as well! Because I want to make sure people remember that druids arent just paladins of the forest. They have a human (elf, orc, etc) being underneath that responsibility, and it should not just disappear to his calling. (Not to say paladins do.)

Great feedback though, I appreciate it! Please do keep it coming, flush whatever you would like out more.

[mandene]

I have actually suspected that Fenix is CN. So, cudos for not being the TN druid and sticking with portraying something more than just "a druid".

I think the only problem with the "constant shifting" is that probably none of us has seen it before. At least I haven't seen it performed by someone who actually roleplays their character. So it's too easily confused with just someone playing around with the shifting skills. Personly I have no problem with it.

What I think though the issue might be, and what already has been mensioned, is that there is too much Fenix, a lot of shapeshifter, and too little druid. Like paladins and clerics (and few other classes) druids are a class that represent something. Other classes aren't as constrained. For example fighter can be many things - a thug, a bodyguard, a soldier, but a druid is a druid. Like cleric and paladin, he might be a member of his religion's clergy and/or local druidic circle. He has responsibility to nature, to his deity, to his circle and/or church. I can understand that his CN alignment might make his "druidicism" not that apparent, and might lead to struggle between his own free-will and the will of druidic circle. There are, however chaotic priests and you can still see/guess they are priests. But, for Fenix, I would never have guessed he's a druid, if he wasn't constantly shapeshifting. I could manage to guess that he's some kind of deity-given magic user, but not necessarily a druid.

I'm not saying walk around towns and scold people for living in cities, or give lectures about nature, or stay in the forest the whole day. Or that you should roleplay to the mold, Fenix should be Fenix. But I'm with Blazingshadows on this. It would be interesting to see what kind of view on druidicism he has, and what thoughts on neutrality and balance he has by choosing the Chaotic side on the alignment scale.

In fact, choosing Chaos is an interesting idea, since what keeps a shifter "sane" is this:

Of necessity, her sense of self is based not on her outward form, but on her soul, which is truly the only constant about her. It is the inner strength of that soul that enables her to take on any shape and remain herself within.

Chaos might, but doesn't necessarily has to, make this more difficult (that would though depend what the alignment represents in Fenix). But that's just my oppinion, and I'd find it personly an interesting thing to roleplay.

[bentusi16]

Yeah my biggest issue with Fenix is that he's totally denied being a druid.

Shifters are a specialty form of druid. Not a separate thing. That's why ONLY druids can become shifters, despite 'shifting' being available to sorcerers, and wizards. Instead of focusing on nature magic, you focus on honing your physical transformation ability to adapt to various situations.

If you don't do your druid stuff, you lose your druid abilities, and if you lose your druid abilities, you lose your shifter abilities. Druids in forgotten realms are divine casters and get their power from gods, not from 'nature', so even if you are a super focused shifter you have to fulfill your gods dogma/requirements for druid worshipers.

[EDM Entori]

Aug 29, 2013 8:28:58 GMT -5 bentusi16 said:

Yeah my biggest issue with Fenix is that he's totally denied being a druid.

Shifters are a specialty form of druid. Not a separate thing. That's why ONLY druids can become shifters, despite 'shifting' being available to sorcerers, and wizards. Instead of focusing on nature magic, you focus on honing your physical transformation ability to adapt to various situations.

If you don't do your druid stuff, you lose your druid abilities, and if you lose your druid abilities, you lose your shifter abilities. Druids in forgotten realms are divine casters and get their power from gods, not from 'nature', so even if you are a super focused shifter you have to fulfill your gods dogma/requirements for druid worshipers.

Only think I have to point out thats wrong with the above, is that druids have to get their power from gods. While this is true, they are not like clerics, their nature magic actually does not cease if they become faithless, neither do they have to appease their gods. Druids who change deities keep their magic in the transition (I base this on several FRC precidents-not on source, someone can answer that more then I can). but I would infer, based on the precident, that nature magic is a completely third party realm, despite that all magic uses the weave (which is not known IC), despite that it is granted from nature deities, that because it is neutral deities that provide this magic, they would not care (as much) about what favor they grant, as much as say a cleric. Do I agree with the precident, not 100%. but how do you piss off a neutral deity? even as a cleric, the 1 step rule, means you pretty much can be any alignment and still receive your magical powers.

I use the 1 step rule as an example, because I believe, that the 1 step rule is a proxy for favor. If you become "Evil enough" lathander wont give you your spells. but if your only neutral, lathander might see that you can be redeemed. this is why that mystra being NG makes no sense, as a neutral being she allowed magic to be made, in any form, (thus evil and good spells, not necromancy but in dnd there are good and evil spells.)

[mandene]

Aug 29, 2013 8:54:52 GMT -5 EDM Entori said:

Aug 29, 2013 8:28:58 GMT -5 bentusi16 said:

Yeah my biggest issue with Fenix is that he's totally denied being a druid.

Shifters are a specialty form of druid. Not a separate thing. That's why ONLY druids can become shifters, despite 'shifting' being available to sorcerers, and wizards. Instead of focusing on nature magic, you focus on honing your physical transformation ability to adapt to various situations.

If you don't do your druid stuff, you lose your druid abilities, and if you lose your druid abilities, you lose your shifter abilities. Druids in forgotten realms are divine casters and get their power from gods, not from 'nature', so even if you are a super focused shifter you have to fulfill your gods dogma/requirements for druid worshipers.

Only think I have to point out thats wrong with the above, is that druids have to get their power from gods. While this is true, they are not like clerics, their nature magic actually does not cease if they become faithless, neither do they have to appease their gods. Druids who change deities keep their magic in the transition (I base this on several FRC precidents-not on source, someone can answer that more then I can). but I would infer, based on the precident, that nature magic is a completely third party realm, despite that all magic uses the weave (which is not known IC), despite that it is granted from nature deities, that because it is neutral deities that provide this magic, they would not care (as much) about what favor they grant, as much as say a cleric. Do I agree with the precident, not 100%. but how do you piss off a neutral deity? even as a cleric, the 1 step rule, means you pretty much can be any alignment and still receive your magical powers.

I use the 1 step rule as an example, because I believe, that the 1 step rule is a proxy for favor. If you become "Evil enough" lathander wont give you your spells. but if your only neutral, lathander might see that you can be redeemed. this is why that mystra being NG makes no sense, as a neutral being she allowed magic to be made, in any form, (thus evil and good spells, not necromancy but in dnd there are good and evil spells.)

How do you piss off a neutral deity? Well, not all nature deities are fully neutral, so you still can piss off Mielikki for example, by becoming LN, NE & CN (she only allows alignments LG, NG, CG & TN). But as you are saying, not following your current deity, by presedence, dosn't make you lose druidicism.

The most obvious way of losing druidicism, is to lose the neutral alignment, so the corners in the alignment square - LG, CG, LE & CE alignments. Fenix still fits the mould by being CN - he's still neutral in one way.

Personly I say you should immediatelly stop being granted druidic powers, if you do acts against nature. For example d20 SRD says this:

Ex-Druids

A druid who ceases to revere nature, changes to a prohibited alignment, or teaches the Druidic language to a nondruid loses all spells and druid abilities (including her animal companion, but not including weapon, armor, and shield proficiencies). She cannot thereafter gain levels as a druid until she atones (see the atonement spell description).

I think it also should mean fulfilling the druidic duties. Simply, because if you get your powers from nature, then if you're not "nature-ly" enough you should lose them. So the question would be what are these? I've seen them described as:

Allies to beasts and manipulators of nature, these often misunderstood protectors of the wild strive to shield their lands from all who would threaten them and prove the might of the wilds to those who lock themselves behind city walls. Rewarded for their devotion with incredible powers, druids gain unparalleled shape-shifting abilities, the companionship of mighty beasts, and the power to call upon nature's wrath. The mightiest temper powers akin to storms, earthquakes, and volcanoes with primeval wisdom long abandoned and forgotten by civilization.

So, if you are granted your powers for fulfilling your "druidic duties", you should also lose the powers if you don't. So, what are Fenix's duties, and what does Fenix thinks that his duties are? Obviously his thoughts on what his duties are will be based on what deity he follows.

[mandene]

I think this one needs to become a thread-split, because I'm saying something that has nothing to do with druidicism, nor Fenix. It is about Mystra.

Aug 29, 2013 8:54:52 GMT -5 EDM Entori said:

Only think I have to point out thats wrong with the above, is that druids have to get their power from gods. While this is true, they are not like clerics, their nature magic actually does not cease if they become faithless, neither do they have to appease their gods. Druids who change deities keep their magic in the transition (I base this on several FRC precidents-not on source, someone can answer that more then I can). but I would infer, based on the precident, that nature magic is a completely third party realm, despite that all magic uses the weave (which is not known IC), despite that it is granted from nature deities, that because it is neutral deities that provide this magic, they would not care (as much) about what favor they grant, as much as say a cleric. Do I agree with the precident, not 100%. but how do you piss off a neutral deity? even as a cleric, the 1 step rule, means you pretty much can be any alignment and still receive your magical powers.

I use the 1 step rule as an example, because I believe, that the 1 step rule is a proxy for favor. If you become "Evil enough" lathander wont give you your spells. but if your only neutral, lathander might see that you can be redeemed. this is why that mystra being NG makes no sense, as a neutral being she allowed magic to be made, in any form, (thus evil and good spells, not necromancy but in dnd there are good and evil spells.)

I have a full history for the Mystra problem.

As you probably know, Mystra isn't the first keeper of the Weave. She's the third one in the row. First one, called Mystryl, was the one created by Selûne during her battle with Shar. She was killed by Netherese archwizard Karsus. And Netheril fell. The second Mystryl was the one that created the Chosen like Elminster, Khelben, Sammaster (the guy who started the Cult of the Dragons) and the Seven Sisters. This one was LN. Helm killed her (it's a long story) during the Time of Troubles.

The current one, was known as Midnight when she lived. She took the name of her predecessor. And being NG, she TRIED to act as NG deity, favored only good aligned, and brought imbalance and robbed the other deities of potentional worshipers. She, together with Kelemvor and Cyric were accused by the Circle of Greater Gods of being guilty of "Incompetence by Humanity". So Mystra HAS to be neutral in granting magic. However she will still not stand for abusing of magic (whatever that is), and she's not above keeping it from those she deems unworthy.

In 2nd e, clerics of the Mystra from before the Time of Troubles, were allowed to keep their alignments, even if it didn't fit the "new Mystra". so there you go.

And I agree that WotC made it unnecessarily complicated, or whomever it was at that time.

[Fenix]

Aug 29, 2013 6:07:17 GMT -5 mandene said:

What I think though the issue might be, and what already has been mensioned, is that there is too much Fenix, a lot of shapeshifter, and too little druid. Like paladins and clerics (and few other classes) druids are a class that represent something. Other classes aren't as constrained. For example fighter can be many things - a thug, a bodyguard, a soldier, but a druid is a druid. Like cleric and paladin, he might be a member of his religion's clergy and/or local druidic circle. He has responsibility to nature, to his deity, to his circle and/or church. I can understand that his CN alignment might make his "druidicism" not that apparent, and might lead to struggle between his own free-will and the will of druidic circle. There are, however chaotic priests and you can still see/guess they are priests. But, for Fenix, I would never have guessed he's a druid, if he wasn't constantly shapeshifting. I could manage to guess that he's some kind of deity-given magic user, but not necessarily a druid.

I'm not saying walk around towns and scold people for living in cities, or give lectures about nature, or stay in the forest the whole day. Or that you should roleplay to the mold, Fenix should be Fenix. But I'm with Blazingshadows on this. It would be interesting to see what kind of view on druidicism he has, and what thoughts on neutrality and balance he has by choosing the Chaotic side on the alignment scale.

See thats where the issue is. Fenix tends to have a very strong bind to nature, but unless you travel with him you don't tend to see it. Theres only so much I can do for him in a town, its a town. He doesnt hate towns so he won't sit there and preach about how we should burn it down and replant the trees that once grew. Thats a limited factor therein.

Yeah my biggest issue with Fenix is that he's totally denied being a druid.

Shifters are a specialty form of druid. Not a separate thing. That's why ONLY druids can become shifters, despite 'shifting' being available to sorcerers, and wizards. Instead of focusing on nature magic, you focus on honing your physical transformation ability to adapt to various situations.

If you don't do your druid stuff, you lose your druid abilities, and if you lose your druid abilities, you lose your shifter abilities. Druids in forgotten realms are divine casters and get their power from gods, not from 'nature', so even if you are a super focused shifter you have to fulfill your gods dogma/requirements for druid worshipers.

The way you make it seem here is that if Fenix doesn't use magic at all, just focuses on the ability that defines him, hes not a druid. Thats my first perception from reading. Responding in that manner I would say there are plenty of druids whose defense of nature is more a physical one, perhaps being much less adept at the magics their deity provides them.

As you said, Shifter is a specialty form of Druid in NWN. And thats what Fenix is, he is a specialty form of a druid, a shifter. It would be sensible for him to focus more on that shifting aspect, because that is wherein his power and ability lies. His being is in the fact that he has no true being in his mind. Speaking to him about his shifting, you would find out he thinks that he is trying to create a balance and true embodiment of nature, by embodying all of its children, both the revered and the abhorred.[/font]

Ex-Druids

A druid who ceases to revere nature, changes to a prohibited alignment, or teaches the Druidic language to a nondruid loses all spells and druid abilities (including her animal companion, but not including weapon, armor, and shield proficiencies). She cannot thereafter gain levels as a druid until she atones (see the atonement spell description).

I think it also should mean fulfilling the druidic duties. Simply, because if you get your powers from nature, then if you're not "nature-ly" enough you should lose them. So the question would be what are these? I've seen them described as:


Allies to beasts and manipulators of nature, these often misunderstood protectors of the wild strive to shield their lands from all who would threaten them and prove the might of the wilds to those who lock themselves behind city walls. Rewarded for their devotion with incredible powers, druids gain unparalleled shape-shifting abilities, the companionship of mighty beasts, and the power to call upon nature's wrath. The mightiest temper powers akin to storms, earthquakes, and volcanoes with primeval wisdom long abandoned and forgotten by civilization.

So, if you are granted your powers for fulfilling your "druidic duties", you should also lose the powers if you don't. So, what are Fenix's duties, and what does Fenix thinks that his duties are? Obviously his thoughts on what his duties are will be based on what deity he follows.

Theres a character development point, one that few characters actually know IC. What are the duties Fenix sees himself as responsible for? He was not trained properly, so he does not embody the epitome of druidity. He refers to himself as the wild son, why would that be?

[Deleted]

As a player of fellow chaotic characters, I had Fenix pegged as CN from the first emote. I think I could smell it through the computer screen. I love Fenix as he is, and the chaotic part makes him seem more wild, which makes a very fun druid, to me. He doesn't protect the wild as an appreciative visitor or guest. He IS the wild, and he stands up for himself. I - LOVE - that.

Anything else can be hashed out IC.

[Munroe]

Aug 29, 2013 8:54:52 GMT -5 EDM Entori said:

Aug 29, 2013 8:28:58 GMT -5 bentusi16 said:

Yeah my biggest issue with Fenix is that he's totally denied being a druid.

Shifters are a specialty form of druid. Not a separate thing. That's why ONLY druids can become shifters, despite 'shifting' being available to sorcerers, and wizards. Instead of focusing on nature magic, you focus on honing your physical transformation ability to adapt to various situations.

If you don't do your druid stuff, you lose your druid abilities, and if you lose your druid abilities, you lose your shifter abilities. Druids in forgotten realms are divine casters and get their power from gods, not from 'nature', so even if you are a super focused shifter you have to fulfill your gods dogma/requirements for druid worshipers.

Only think I have to point out thats wrong with the above, is that druids have to get their power from gods. While this is true, they are not like clerics, their nature magic actually does not cease if they become faithless, neither do they have to appease their gods. Druids who change deities keep their magic in the transition (I base this on several FRC precidents-not on source, someone can answer that more then I can). but I would infer, based on the precident, that nature magic is a completely third party realm, despite that all magic uses the weave (which is not known IC), despite that it is granted from nature deities, that because it is neutral deities that provide this magic, they would not care (as much) about what favor they grant, as much as say a cleric. Do I agree with the precident, not 100%. but how do you piss off a neutral deity? even as a cleric, the 1 step rule, means you pretty much can be any alignment and still receive your magical powers.

I use the 1 step rule as an example, because I believe, that the 1 step rule is a proxy for favor. If you become "Evil enough" lathander wont give you your spells. but if your only neutral, lathander might see that you can be redeemed. this is why that mystra being NG makes no sense, as a neutral being she allowed magic to be made, in any form, (thus evil and good spells, not necromancy but in dnd there are good and evil spells.)

Entori, the one-step rule doesn't work toward True Neutral. Chauntea is the only Neutral Good deity that allows her clerics to be True Neutral. (Chauntea's clergy may be may be NG, LG, CG, and TN.) Other Neutral Good deities may not have True Neutral clergy. (NG deities normally have NG, LG, and CG clergy.) Likewise Lawful Neutral deities may not have True Neutral clergy. (LN deities normally have LN, LG, and LE clergy.) The same pattern follows for all the deities with only one Neutral component to their alignments. Deities who are True Neutral allow for clerics with at least one neutral component to their alignment. (Gond and Oghma are both exceptions as they are True Neutral and allow clergy of any alignment.) Deities that have no neutral component are on the corners of the alignment grid and may only move one step toward neutral in either direction, not in both.

LG	NG	CG
LN	TN	CN
LE	NE	CE

Mandene is correct in that Mystra is an exception to the alignment rule. Her present alignment is NG. She supports new clerics of NG, LG, and CG alignment. However, the former Mystra (prior to 1358 DR) was LN and had clerics of LN, LG, and LE alignments. So Mystra supports existing clergy of those alignments as well. That means that Mystra's clerics of LN and LE alignments are a dying breed, because they all worshiped Mystra in her former LN version (which was presently 19 years ago).

[EDM Entori]

yeah I sort of got off on a tangent with that, with that tidbit to mandene I was eating my shoes.. but thanks for the clarification.

[Fenix]

Bump

Im still interested In opinions. Moreso now with how Fenix has been playrd lately. The initial topic stands.


I do want DM opinions as well. I want to see your prespective, opinions, and suggestions of this character.

[McGuffin]

I will chime in and I speak for myself and perhaps a few others on the staff but I claim only to represent my personal views. Also, this is a text only medium and as such criticism seems to carry much more sting that it should.

Suggestions:

Slow down on your RP of shifting when not in combat. This should be a corner stone of your role play as a shifter. Emote the visuals of the shifting and try to understand how most people view that as some sort of evil or curse, especially NPC's. They only shifters they are familiar with usually try and eat them.

Example, *The rubbery round cow like nose stretches out of his face distorting his human features revealing a hideous monster trapped within.*

Next, suggestion. Keep it in character. This is not just you there we have been some what lax about people talking OOC. Everyone need to remember about breaking immersion. (I do this as a DM too often, so I am talking to myself too.) As a player I used to do this and ShadowCatJen took me aside and helped me learn to express everything that I can as In Character instead of taking the somewhat challenging things OOC just because it was easy.

Last suggestion, sometimes you are the belle of the ball. The center of attention, sometimes you are not. Let others support you when you are the center, support them equally when you are not.

Strong points:

You are dedicated to your character and have a built a personality easily recognizable in the community. Your RP is good, you engage in what ever events and plots that you can with an open mind and enthusiasm.

You are good about gathering people, organizing them, and getting them involved. Fenix isn't a loner.

Your doing a good job, so many of our players are, just keep it up and tweak over time the small stuff.

[Fenix]

Oct 22, 2013 13:23:48 GMT -5 McGuffin said:

I will chime in and I speak for myself and perhaps a few others on the staff but I claim only to represent my personal views. Also, this is a text only medium and as such criticism seems to carry much more sting that it should.

Suggestions:

Slow down on your RP of shifting when not in combat. This should be a corner stone of your role play as a shifter. Emote the visuals of the shifting and try to understand how most people view that as some sort of evil or curse, especially NPC's. They only shifters they are familiar with usually try and eat them.

Example, *The rubbery round cow like nose stretches out of his face distorting his human features revealing a hideous monster trapped within.*

Next, suggestion. Keep it in character. This is not just you there we have been some what lax about people talking OOC. Everyone need to remember about breaking immersion. (I do this as a DM too often, so I am talking to myself too.) As a player I used to do this and ShadowCatJen took me aside and helped me learn to express everything that I can as In Character instead of taking the somewhat challenging things OOC just because it was easy.

Last suggestion, sometimes you are the belle of the ball. The center of attention, sometimes you are not. Let others support you when you are the center, support them equally when you are not.

Strong points:

You are dedicated to your character and have a built a personality easily recognizable in the community. Your RP is good, you engage in what ever events and plots that you can with an open mind and enthusiasm.

You are good about gathering people, organizing them, and getting them involved. Fenix isn't a loner.

Your doing a good job, so many of our players are, just keep it up and tweak over time the small stuff.

I very much appreciate the criticism McGuffin, no sting felt. I honestly look for such like this and wouldnt mind if you or another would like to elaborate more on your views and opinions or their own. Things like this are a good way to decide character development in my opinion.

[magiuss]

I Will keep it short since im on the phone and im cursing the auto correct.

I have not role played with fenix only heard This from others that you were very relaxed about People's summoning undead around you.

In my opinion no matter allignment no druid accept the presence of undead they represent every ting unatural in Nature and Are an blight

As i Said havnt played with fenix my self yet so thats the only thing i'll write about

[Fenix]

Oct 23, 2013 5:08:33 GMT -5 magiuss said:

I Will keep it short since im on the phone and im cursing the auto correct.

I have not role played with fenix only heard This from others that you were very relaxed about People's summoning undead around you.

In my opinion no matter allignment no druid accept the presence of undead they represent every ting unatural in Nature and Are an blight

As i Said havnt played with fenix my self yet so thats the only thing i'll write about

not sure where you heard that one....

[magiuss]

Oct 23, 2013 6:06:23 GMT -5 Fenix said:

Oct 23, 2013 5:08:33 GMT -5 magiuss said:

I Will keep it short since im on the phone and im cursing the auto correct.

I have not role played with fenix only heard This from others that you were very relaxed about People's summoning undead around you.

In my opinion no matter allignment no druid accept the presence of undead they represent every ting unatural in Nature and Are an blight

As i Said havnt played with fenix my self yet so thats the only thing i'll write about

not sure where you heard that one....

first you didn't denie it. seconds it doesn't matter cause its your char and you can do with him as you want. if it was true then you asked for personal critisicm and there it was then, if it aint. then there is no problem all in all your char your role play.

[Fenix]

Bumpity.

Still interested in hearing the opinions of those whom have something to say.

What do you like/hate/find interest/ or are curious about?

[Rane]

Fenix is poor

[Fenix]

Nov 29, 2013 20:28:17 GMT -5 Rane said:

Fenix is poor

He tries.

[DM Maleficent's Kiss]

The best thing about Fenix: He call lightnings his own party.

The worst thing about Fenix: He call lightnings his own party.

Advice and conclusion: He needs to be more careful casting call lightning in groups BUT if he continues to be reckless I will not cease to laugh when I witness a public electrocution...

Thanks for the electrifying and death defying(most of the time) act.

[Fenix]

Nov 29, 2013 21:11:11 GMT -5 DM Maleficent's Kiss said:

The best thing about Fenix: He call lightnings his own party.

The worst thing about Fenix: He call lightnings his own party.

Advice and conclusion: He needs to be more careful casting call lightning in groups BUT if he continues to be reckless I will not cease to laugh when I witness a public electrocution...

Thanks for the electrifying and death defying(most of the time) act.

Literal response while sitting in teamspeak: You know. YOu knowwwww. YOu knowwwwwwwwwwwwww. Its Ice storm.

[DM Maleficent's Kiss]

I was trying to be nice...

[Fenix]

Nov 30, 2013 0:51:51 GMT -5 DM Maleficent's Kiss said:

I was trying to be nice...

In my defense, the friendly fire isn't -usually- my fault ;_;

[DM Maleficent's Kiss]

Hopefully those people can recite the following afterwards...

[Trollfiend]

Aug 29, 2013 8:54:52 GMT -5 EDM Entori said:

Aug 29, 2013 8:28:58 GMT -5 bentusi16 said:

Yeah my biggest issue with Fenix is that he's totally denied being a druid.

Shifters are a specialty form of druid. Not a separate thing. That's why ONLY druids can become shifters, despite 'shifting' being available to sorcerers, and wizards. Instead of focusing on nature magic, you focus on honing your physical transformation ability to adapt to various situations.

If you don't do your druid stuff, you lose your druid abilities, and if you lose your druid abilities, you lose your shifter abilities. Druids in forgotten realms are divine casters and get their power from gods, not from 'nature', so even if you are a super focused shifter you have to fulfill your gods dogma/requirements for druid worshipers.

Only think I have to point out thats wrong with the above, is that druids have to get their power from gods. While this is true, they are not like clerics, their nature magic actually does not cease if they become faithless, neither do they have to appease their gods. Druids who change deities keep their magic in the transition (I base this on several FRC precidents-not on source, someone can answer that more then I can). but I would infer, based on the precident, that nature magic is a completely third party realm, despite that all magic uses the weave (which is not known IC), despite that it is granted from nature deities, that because it is neutral deities that provide this magic, they would not care (as much) about what favor they grant, as much as say a cleric. Do I agree with the precident, not 100%. but how do you piss off a neutral deity? even as a cleric, the 1 step rule, means you pretty much can be any alignment and still receive your magical powers.

I use the 1 step rule as an example, because I believe, that the 1 step rule is a proxy for favor. If you become "Evil enough" lathander wont give you your spells. but if your only neutral, lathander might see that you can be redeemed. this is why that mystra being NG makes no sense, as a neutral being she allowed magic to be made, in any form, (thus evil and good spells, not necromancy but in dnd there are good and evil spells.)

According to this server, we druids get our powers from gods and lose our powers if we become faithless. We have to pick a deity and we have to please that deity.

There has been a druid who, in the past, switched deities and spent a month unable to cast spells or use druid powers.

[Dobian]

I do like how you give the very descriptive detail of what Fenix is doing while he's talking or just sitting by himself. We all fall into the mannequin syndrome from time to time, but Fenix is always alive and breathing (unless he's afk of course).