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Post by Razgriz on May 7, 2013 0:47:35 GMT -5
Well, Im not sure how this has worked in FRC before, but sill I think its worth asking.
I was thinking that perhaps some in character information about each of the guilds would be good and maybe useful for new and veteran players alike. I can imagine some of the guilds leaving a more or less complete description of what they do while others would leave an obscure or mysterious text that could be fun to read.
Im not saying that I want spoilers, but Im of the opinion that it could add flavor to the whole guild concept. Pseudo guilds and groups of adventurers could aslo post about them.
So, has this been done before or would it work? I would like some opinions on the matter.
I ask because sometimes it is not always an option to know what a guild is about and I understand why some guilds will probably not like this idea, but for others it could help to avoid confusion and such.
Any thoughts? (Keep it civil please).
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Post by FORSETIS on May 7, 2013 1:08:15 GMT -5
I like it. Ive been here to long, and have a good idea of what guilds are what. But I can easily see other people not knowing exactly whats out there. It could help guild recruitment, and give some more depth to the server.
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Post by MTGPackFoils on May 7, 2013 1:16:06 GMT -5
I agree that something could be given, however to what extent?
I would say the guild could show what the guild is about, perhaps even religious ties, but not list any members (of course). Perhaps it can even have a link to PM a certain DM for each guild to get more info. This could even help connect players to guildmasters in a way.
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Post by Syd's Blue Sky on May 7, 2013 2:01:27 GMT -5
If it's an IC post you want, then there are other places of the forum this can already easily happen. This seems necessarily OOC in nature. Am I correct?
Implementation is as easy as a non-PW'd area under the Guilds section. Each guild can start a thread with whatever subject/body they want. It works equally well for current guilds and for guilds that are still in the planning stages.
I like it.
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Post by Razgriz on May 7, 2013 8:13:32 GMT -5
If it's an IC post you want, then there are other places of the forum this can already easily happen. This seems necessarily OOC in nature. Am I correct? Implementation is as easy as a non-PW'd area under the Guilds section. Each guild can start a thread with whatever subject/body they want. It works equally well for current guilds and for guilds that are still in the planning stages. I like it. Exactly that. It is ooc in nature, but with an ic text like the journal section. I agree that something could be given, however to what extent? I would say the guild could show what the guild is about, perhaps even religious ties, but not list any members (of course). Perhaps it can even have a link to PM a certain DM for each guild to get more info. This could even help connect players to guildmasters in a way. Each guild can decide what information to post and what to leave for in-game roleplay of course. And as Forsetis said, it could help for recruitment and will add some more depth to FRC.
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Post by Rane on May 7, 2013 9:30:48 GMT -5
Some guilds dont need to openly display themselves.
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Post by Kiyohime 🐍 on May 7, 2013 9:33:13 GMT -5
A good idea as long as it isn't mandatory to all guilds.
It will certainly help with recruitment and that alone is a good enough reason.
Also, I have been playing FRC for the past 8ish months and I only know of maybe four guilds. Hahaha.
So yeah. Good one, Merc.
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Post by FORSETIS on May 7, 2013 22:59:51 GMT -5
A good idea as long as it isn't mandatory to all guilds. It will certainly help with recruitment and that alone is a good enough reason. Also, I have been playing FRC for the past 8ish months and I only know of maybe four guilds. Hahaha. So yeah. Good one, Merc. I like it and plan to do it. But if its suppost to be mandatory ill vote against it.
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Post by Razgriz on May 8, 2013 8:43:11 GMT -5
Yes, this should be optional only. Lets see what the other guilds and DMs think about it.
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Post by MTGPackFoils on May 8, 2013 8:51:30 GMT -5
Yes, this should be optional only. Lets see what the other guilds and DMs think about it. I honestly think a brief description can be given, even vague, and a player can PM a DM. I think it could lead to some OOC knowledge though.
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Post by Lady Frost on May 8, 2013 13:21:32 GMT -5
I'll do a basic one for BoOT but the guild is completely inactive and likely won't be again without the vault.
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Post by Rane on May 8, 2013 13:39:44 GMT -5
Guilds should stay in game. There arent enough people to warrant an ooc guild description.
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Post by Syd's Blue Sky on May 8, 2013 13:41:52 GMT -5
Yes, this should be optional only. Lets see what the other guilds and DMs think about it. I honestly think a brief description can be given, even vague, and a player can PM a DM. I think it could lead to some OOC knowledge though. OOC knowledge will ALWAYS exist. Unavoidable. Trick is to control it; make the OOC knowledge work for you, rather than against. This strike me as a wonderful chance to put some good old OOC knowledge to use in a way that it constructive to RP rather than the opposite. Also remember that you don't need to make the post on your actual account. Make an forum account for your guild and post with that. The harpers have done this in the past.
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Post by Razgriz on May 8, 2013 14:39:45 GMT -5
The TODR guild has a text with basic information about it already. If this this is given a yes we will post it for everyone to read.
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Post by Those Who Harp on May 8, 2013 14:45:22 GMT -5
yes, yes we have. I honestly think a brief description can be given, even vague, and a player can PM a DM. I think it could lead to some OOC knowledge though. OOC knowledge will ALWAYS exist. Unavoidable. Trick is to control it; make the OOC knowledge work for you, rather than against. This strike me as a wonderful chance to put some good old OOC knowledge to use in a way that it constructive to RP rather than the opposite. Also remember that you don't need to make the post on your actual account. Make an forum account for your guild and post with that. The harpers have done this in the past.
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Post by MTGPackFoils on May 8, 2013 16:04:12 GMT -5
After thinking about it some more my second post was to reflect that it's a bad idea...for some.
If The Triad wishes to host an RP event to gain new recruits then do so. Some of us have to use other methods or reach out to players in other ways.
I like the thought of trying to get more attention to the guilds, but there can be a different way...in my opinion.
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Post by Lady Frost on May 8, 2013 17:46:16 GMT -5
After thinking about it some more my second post was to reflect that it's a bad idea...for some. If The Triad wishes to host an RP event to gain new recruits then do so. Some of us have to use other methods or reach out to players in other ways. I like the thought of trying to get more attention to the guilds, but there can be a different way...in my opinion. Then it's your right to not make a post describing the guild. In the past BoOT did the same thing. We didn't talk about ourselves OOC to keep players from even thinking about us. However, if someone wants to make a forum where guilds can make threads to describe themselves then let those that want to make them, make them and those that don't want to don't have to.
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Post by MTGPackFoils on May 8, 2013 17:52:30 GMT -5
After thinking about it some more my second post was to reflect that it's a bad idea...for some. If The Triad wishes to host an RP event to gain new recruits then do so. Some of us have to use other methods or reach out to players in other ways. I like the thought of trying to get more attention to the guilds, but there can be a different way...in my opinion. Then it's your right to not make a post describing the guild. In the past BoOT did the same thing. We didn't talk about ourselves OOC to keep players from even thinking about us. However, if someone wants to make a forum where guilds can make threads to describe themselves then let those that want to make them, make them and those that don't want to don't have to. That's fine too. Give people a choice? Ok I'm all for it.
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Post by Razgriz on May 8, 2013 18:34:53 GMT -5
I never mentioned it had to be for everyone. And yes, it should be a choice.
In other words, I just think a stickied thread where those guilds or groups that wanted ooc post something about themselves would be good to have.
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Post by DM Hawk on May 8, 2013 19:32:14 GMT -5
Hey folks, chiming in with my point of view.
Historically, this has not been done on an ooc level. Guilds have taken various actions to recruit or advertise including forum posts - but these were kept IC for the most part. That is my personal preference.
A one stop shop (thread) for folks to read about guilds (and organizations) is not a bad idea to clue them into what opportunities there are on FRC - but I think this can be done and still kept mostly IC.
It is more challenging for the covert guilds or organizations this way but that is part of the nature of the beast.
My recommendation is to follow a a simple IC template, and by IC I mean sharing what is common knowledge and then tailoring it somewhat to the presence of the guild in Cormyr - without giving away much ooc info.
Simple template:
1. How the type of organization is observed in Faerun 2. How the type of organization is observed in Cormyr 3. How your specific organization is observed in Cormyr (more difficult for covert) 4. How your organization may be contacted (more difficult for covert)
I'll use the dormant guild Alizarin as an example. This guild is no longer active but we hope to see that change in due course. I apologize in advance if I don't do justice in the eyes of the Alizarin's players and would welcome a revision if offered....
Across Faerun bards, minstrels, mages, and sages collect and share much of the knowledge in the realms from current clack to the mysterious, to science, to magic. Libraries exist and several faiths uphold the discovery of knowledge but knowledge of historic events is often transferred by song, word of mouth, and tavern tale.
While many of these folk are solitary in their careers, sometimes several will band together and found an organization to preserve, teach, and discover lore. Sometimes these organizations are known as Bardic Colleges.
In Cormyr, one Bardic College has recently planted its roots and won renown. The Alizarin Academy of Bardic and Arcane Lore was founded in 1372 and has become the paramount learning institution in Marsember and some would say in the kingdom entire. The school is known for its library and for hosting learning events from historic events, to monster exhibits, to mage fairs. The academy is also known for opening its doors to oprhans to provide learning opportunities and scholarships.
When seeking knowledge of things magical, mysterios, or historic the first place to visit is often the Alizarin Academy of Marsember.
Folks belonging to clandestine guilds would have a more difficult time but posts could be made using a secret account like the Harper guild uses or by asking a DM to post on player behalf.
Would this approach work as a mostly IC alternative?
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