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Post by Razgriz on Nov 12, 2012 17:24:53 GMT -5
I always liked the descriptions that the unique items in Neverwinter Night had. Those descriptions were epic, creepy and sometimes they were just plain weird or silly. So I got the idea of making something like that for FRC. What if an NPC merchant could sell replicas of the gear that some of the most famous or infamous adventurers used? What about selling a copy of the armor that an honorable PDK had? Or maybe a lesser version of the magic staff that belonged to a long dead/undead nercomancer? Those items could be +1 only or just offer minor bonuses so they would be intended for characters of 1 to 10th level and be sold in Greatgaunt. The conditions for having legacy gear for your character could be something like: 1) Reaching epic level. 2) Having epic reputation feat or be well known in general. 3) The character must be no longer adventuring (it can be retired, dead or no longer in Cormyr). 4) Only one legacy item per character is allowed. 5) Writting an appropriate description for the item, similar to those of the items that can be found in NWN. 6) The bonuses must be lesser versions of the original. (So if it was a dagger +3 with 1d4 fire, it could be now a dagger +1 and with +1 fire damage. I think it would be cool, specially for new characters that are looking for good gear at low levels. I would buy a legacy +1 item before a random +1 one any day. Any opinions are welcome.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 17:28:10 GMT -5
I always liked the descriptions that the unique items in Neverwinter Night had. Those descriptions were epic, creepy and sometimes they were just plain weird or silly. So I got the idea of making something like that for FRC. What if an NPC merchant could sell replicas of the gear that some of the most famous or infamous adventurers used? What about selling a copy of the armor that an honorable PDK had? Or maybe a lesser version of the magic staff that belonged to a long dead/undead nercomancer? Those items could be +1 only or just offer minor bonuses so they would be intended for characters of 1 to 10th level and be sold in Greatgaunt. The conditions of having legacy gear for your character could be something like: 1) Reaching epic level. 2) Having epic reputation feat or be well known in general. 3) The character must be no longer adventuring (it can be retired, dead or no longer in Cormyr). 4) Only one legacy item per character is allowed. 5) Writing an appropiate description for the item, similar to those of the itmes that one can found in NWN. 6) the bonuses must be lesser versions of the original. (So if it was a dagger +3 with 1d4 fire, it could be now a dagger with +1 to attack and +1 fire damage. I think it would be cool, specially for new characters that are looking for good gear at low levels. I would buy a legacy +1 item before a random +1 one any day. Any opinions are welcome. I like the idea. You can already get at least one of these type items in either Dhedluk or Waymoot, Vind's Maps. They are magical maps created with the aid of Vind, the Ranger of Hullack. |
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Post by Syd's Blue Sky on Nov 12, 2012 18:24:01 GMT -5
This is awesome!
It's like buying a replica John Lennon Casino guitar by Epiphone, or a Dimebag Darrel Wah pedal.
This is a flat out fantastic idea.
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Post by iangallowglas on Nov 12, 2012 19:15:52 GMT -5
I always liked the descriptions that the unique items in Neverwinter Night had. Those descriptions were epic, creepy and sometimes they were just plain weird or silly. So I got the idea of making something like that for FRC. What if an NPC merchant could sell replicas of the gear that some of the most famous or infamous adventurers used? What about selling a copy of the armor that an honorable PDK had? Or maybe a lesser version of the magic staff that belonged to a long dead/undead nercomancer? Those items could be +1 only or just offer minor bonuses so they would be intended for characters of 1 to 10th level and be sold in Greatgaunt. The conditions of having legacy gear for your character could be something like: 1) Reaching epic level. 2) Having epic reputation feat or be well known in general. 3) The character must be no longer adventuring (it can be retired, dead or no longer in Cormyr). 4) Only one legacy item per character is allowed. 5) Writing an appropiate description for the item, similar to those of the itmes that can be found in NWN. 6) The bonuses must be lesser versions of the original. (So if it was a dagger +3 with 1d4 fire, it could be now a dagger with +1 to attack and +1 fire damage. I think it would be cool, specially for new characters that are looking for good gear at low levels. I would buy a legacy +1 item before a random +1 one any day. Any opinions are welcome. Edit: Spelling. I like the idea too! |
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Post by DM Hawk on Nov 12, 2012 21:06:05 GMT -5
Hehe...Twimby having genuine replicas of Korfuji for sale...
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Post by Razgriz on Nov 12, 2012 21:13:31 GMT -5
Hehe, gald you liked it guys.
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Post by malleus on Nov 13, 2012 2:30:37 GMT -5
forsure a good idea.
+1
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Post by gathera on Nov 13, 2012 4:42:48 GMT -5
I have tried to do a little of that in the past with regular items. A spell from the book of Fisten, gloves bearing the mark of a monk named Winter. It would be great if something more official could be done. It would add a lot of flavor to the server.
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Post by soulfien on Nov 13, 2012 11:44:43 GMT -5
Hmm.. not sure on the +1 part after reaching epic level and decking out your PC in +3 gear.
Other than that, I love it.
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Post by Savoie Faire on Nov 13, 2012 18:26:56 GMT -5
While FRC items like the aforementioned Korfuji can easily be 'replicated' for the masses, many items referencing an old or existing PC may cross the line unless the player of said PC gives permission.
For example, suppose a famous dwarf was famous for his consumption of ale. Suppose I introduced items which brought this to mind such as ale-mugs with his name on them. Suppose the player of said character returns and finds my reference to his ale-guzzling dwarf to be offensive?
How do I go about removing all such items from the game after everyone has a mug or two? How do I soothe the player's concerns if the offending items remain in play after he objected?
I very much like this idea, and if players of reknowned characters wish to grant permission to offer items which are derived from the roleplay of their famous characters, I will certainly want to hear from them.
On the other hand, I am not prepared to make use of another player's roleplay to create mass-consumption items without permission.
P.S. If your character isn't famous, please don't send requests to me, because I have more ideas for items than I could ever use. I frequently create named items for fun, and trash more than I give away.
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Post by soulfien on Nov 13, 2012 20:24:18 GMT -5
It's a living breathing world. If a player makes a PC and someone finds a way to emulate or exaggerate an aspect of him/her like in your example, well, that's how things go.
I mean, look at Kelric- Exemplary service to the RCMH, married to a very well known and sweet loremaster, and was even granted knighthood!
Yet, what I recall most about him is the image of him sitting on the street outside the door of a bar with a drink in his hand.
Quirks get remembered and there shouldn't be anything wrong with that- if a player were to get upset about a quirk of their PC, then perhaps they shouldn't have chosen to give their character that quirk.
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Post by iangallowglas on Nov 13, 2012 20:41:34 GMT -5
While FRC items like the aforementioned Korfuji can easily be 'replicated' for the masses, many items referencing an old or existing PC may cross the line unless the player of said PC gives permission. For example, suppose a famous dwarf was famous for his consumption of ale. Suppose I introduced items which brought this to mind such as ale-mugs with his name on them. Suppose the player of said character returns and finds my reference to his ale-guzzling dwarf to be offensive? How do I go about removing all such items from the game after everyone has a mug or two? How do I soothe the player's concerns if the offending items remain in play after he objected? I very much like this idea, and if players of reknowned characters wish to grant permission to offer items which are derived from the roleplay of their famous characters, I will certainly want to hear from them. On the other hand, I am not prepared to make use of another player's roleplay to create mass-consumption items without permission. P.S. If your character isn't famous, please don't send requests to me, because I have more ideas for items than I could ever use. I frequently create named items for fun, and trash more than I give away. And how do you know if your character is famous? If your talking characters with the epic reputation feat (like the OP suggested), there's only a few with that feat (two that I know of - Sharita and Silverstring). If it's just Epic characters....lots of those, and in this case, is it up to the player to decide if his character is famous, or popularity contest, or DM choice? Just asking |
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Post by Razgriz on Nov 13, 2012 22:09:47 GMT -5
Oh well I was thinking that the owners of the retired characters would be the ones that will think and write the "story" of the item they wanted.
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Post by Lady Frost on Nov 14, 2012 3:29:28 GMT -5
While FRC items like the aforementioned Korfuji can easily be 'replicated' for the masses, many items referencing an old or existing PC may cross the line unless the player of said PC gives permission. For example, suppose a famous dwarf was famous for his consumption of ale. Suppose I introduced items which brought this to mind such as ale-mugs with his name on them. Suppose the player of said character returns and finds my reference to his ale-guzzling dwarf to be offensive? How do I go about removing all such items from the game after everyone has a mug or two? How do I soothe the player's concerns if the offending items remain in play after he objected? I very much like this idea, and if players of reknowned characters wish to grant permission to offer items which are derived from the roleplay of their famous characters, I will certainly want to hear from them. On the other hand, I am not prepared to make use of another player's roleplay to create mass-consumption items without permission. P.S. If your character isn't famous, please don't send requests to me, because I have more ideas for items than I could ever use. I frequently create named items for fun, and trash more than I give away. And how do you know if your character is famous? If your talking characters with the epic reputation feat (like the OP suggested), there's only a few with that feat (two that I know of - Sharita and Silverstring). If it's just Epic characters....lots of those, and in this case, is it up to the player to decide if his character is famous, or popularity contest, or DM choice? Just asking My thought would be that a PC would submit one or more items for approval. Each item would list the original item stats and everything needed to create the legacy piece (including description). The DM's would then approve or deny the items and send the list back. The player could then revise an item or agree upon one of the approved items. Another idea based off that is players may submit as many items as they like and once an item is approved it is listed in a post under the PC's name in a specific thread in the DM forum where builders or DM's can pull them as they see fit. The third could go with either of the above but puts a bit of work on the DM's and that is to have players submit items then have DM's configure the stats as they think it should be. ------- As for who can submit items and who is determined popular? I think its a combination of players thinking their PC is popular and DM's agreeing. |
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Post by mastersenge on Nov 14, 2012 20:03:48 GMT -5
It's like buying a replica John Lennon Casino guitar by Epiphone, or a Dimebag Darrel Wah pedal. Hey, I have one of those CFH wah pedals. Its like a +2 pedal of badassery. sorry that was a bit off topic |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 20:07:58 GMT -5
It's like buying a replica John Lennon Casino guitar by Epiphone, or a Dimebag Darrel Wah pedal. Hey, I have one of those CFH wah pedals. Its like a +2 pedal of badassery. sorry that was a bit off topic SRV actually owned a Hendrix Wah pedal..how awesome is that? Thats like a 30th level bard with an artifact That increases perform skill! |
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Post by soulfien on Nov 14, 2012 20:13:51 GMT -5
While FRC items like the aforementioned Korfuji can easily be 'replicated' for the masses, many items referencing an old or existing PC may cross the line unless the player of said PC gives permission. For example, suppose a famous dwarf was famous for his consumption of ale. Suppose I introduced items which brought this to mind such as ale-mugs with his name on them. Suppose the player of said character returns and finds my reference to his ale-guzzling dwarf to be offensive? How do I go about removing all such items from the game after everyone has a mug or two? How do I soothe the player's concerns if the offending items remain in play after he objected? I very much like this idea, and if players of reknowned characters wish to grant permission to offer items which are derived from the roleplay of their famous characters, I will certainly want to hear from them. On the other hand, I am not prepared to make use of another player's roleplay to create mass-consumption items without permission. P.S. If your character isn't famous, please don't send requests to me, because I have more ideas for items than I could ever use. I frequently create named items for fun, and trash more than I give away. And how do you know if your character is famous? If your talking characters with the epic reputation feat (like the OP suggested), there's only a few with that feat (two that I know of - Sharita and Silverstring). If it's just Epic characters....lots of those, and in this case, is it up to the player to decide if his character is famous, or popularity contest, or DM choice? Just asking I consider Garistan to have been a famous PC. As with Phelzaron. And Garistan wasn't even epic. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 20:19:25 GMT -5
Me with SRV's guitar. Attachments:
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Post by mastersenge on Nov 14, 2012 20:23:54 GMT -5
Hey, I have one of those CFH wah pedals. Its like a +2 pedal of badassery. sorry that was a bit off topic SRV actually owned a Hendrix Wah pedal..how awesome is that? Thats like a 30th level bard with an artifact That increases perform skill! I use to use a Morley wah I got in the late 80s or early 90s that was really sweet but I love this one. Then again, I play metal and some of the features on it arent really much good for anything non-metal other than being able to adjust where it peaks and dips and how far it goes in either direction. I know it's shocking I would be a metal guy but what can I say. Ok again sorry for being off topic but I couldnt help it. We all have our weaknesses and guitar gear is one of mine. Well heres something almost on topic I guess. I have 2 characters with awesome DM made swords. I think the stats on em are really cool but I love em for the RP side. The descriptions on the weapons are my favorite part about them. One has a knockdown thing on it like that whatever boom spell but it only works on halflings most of the time and I may be crazy but that makes the effect so much cooler since that character had some halfling minions which are just about the only thing he ever used it on. The bonus vs good and only usable by evil is super awesome too but I cant see any way anything from either of those two characters would ever end up in the hands of joe adventurer thats just going shopping for something pretty. What I meant to say is I think this idea actually sounds kinda cool. There are quite a few characters from back in the day that I would be so proud to carry something that had their name on it. I think if something had one of my characters names on it nobody would want to touch it though. edit: and I saw that picture on FB. I'm jealous. I was gonna comment on it but I figured you'd think "who the hell is this guy commenting on my pic?" lol |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 20:34:01 GMT -5
SRV actually owned a Hendrix Wah pedal..how awesome is that? Thats like a 30th level bard with an artifact That increases perform skill! I use to use a Morley wah I got in the late 80s or early 90s that was really sweet but I love this one. Then again, I play metal and some of the features on it arent really much good for anything non-metal other than being able to adjust where it peaks and dips and how far it goes in either direction. I know it's shocking I would be a metal guy but what can I say. Ok again sorry for being off topic but I couldnt help it. We all have our weaknesses and guitar gear is one of mine. Well heres something almost on topic I guess. I have 2 characters with awesome DM made swords. I think the stats on em are really cool but I love em for the RP side. The descriptions on the weapons are my favorite part about them. One has a knockdown thing on it like that whatever boom spell but it only works on halflings most of the time and I may be crazy but that makes the effect so much cooler since that character had some halfling minions which are just about the only thing he ever used it on. The bonus vs good and only usable by evil is super awesome too but I cant see any way anything from either of those two characters would ever end up in the hands of joe adventurer thats just going shopping for something pretty. What I meant to say is I think this idea actually sounds kinda cool. There are quite a few characters from back in the day that I would be so proud to carry something that had their name on it. I think if something had one of my characters names on it nobody would want to touch it though. edit: and I saw that picture on FB. I'm jealous. I was gonna comment on it but I figured you'd think "who the hell is this guy commenting on my pic?" lol I would have known who you were  |
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Post by mastersenge on Nov 14, 2012 20:36:36 GMT -5
I use to use a Morley wah I got in the late 80s or early 90s that was really sweet but I love this one. Then again, I play metal and some of the features on it arent really much good for anything non-metal other than being able to adjust where it peaks and dips and how far it goes in either direction. I know it's shocking I would be a metal guy but what can I say. Ok again sorry for being off topic but I couldnt help it. We all have our weaknesses and guitar gear is one of mine. Well heres something almost on topic I guess. I have 2 characters with awesome DM made swords. I think the stats on em are really cool but I love em for the RP side. The descriptions on the weapons are my favorite part about them. One has a knockdown thing on it like that whatever boom spell but it only works on halflings most of the time and I may be crazy but that makes the effect so much cooler since that character had some halfling minions which are just about the only thing he ever used it on. The bonus vs good and only usable by evil is super awesome too but I cant see any way anything from either of those two characters would ever end up in the hands of joe adventurer thats just going shopping for something pretty. What I meant to say is I think this idea actually sounds kinda cool. There are quite a few characters from back in the day that I would be so proud to carry something that had their name on it. I think if something had one of my characters names on it nobody would want to touch it though. edit: and I saw that picture on FB. I'm jealous. I was gonna comment on it but I figured you'd think "who the hell is this guy commenting on my pic?" lol I would have known who you were I actually just looked for the "like" button on that last post. |
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Post by mastersenge on Nov 14, 2012 20:42:03 GMT -5
actually if an item was cursed it would be appropriate to have one of my guys names on it.
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Post by mastersenge on Nov 14, 2012 20:49:56 GMT -5
And how do you know if your character is famous? If your talking characters with the epic reputation feat (like the OP suggested), there's only a few with that feat (two that I know of - Sharita and Silverstring). If it's just Epic characters....lots of those, and in this case, is it up to the player to decide if his character is famous, or popularity contest, or DM choice? Just asking I consider Garistan to have been a famous PC. As with Phelzaron. And Garistan wasn't even epic. Oh yeah Garistan and Phelz would count in my opinion. I was actually sad when the Phelz statue in Redmist was removed. |
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Post by soulfien on Nov 14, 2012 20:54:39 GMT -5
Yeah, there are a lot of things from the past that I now miss today. That's one of them.
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Post by Syd's Blue Sky on Nov 15, 2012 2:14:25 GMT -5
It's like buying a replica John Lennon Casino guitar by Epiphone, or a Dimebag Darrel Wah pedal. Hey, I have one of those CFH wah pedals. Its like a +2 pedal of badassery. sorry that was a bit off topic inorite?!?!? We should compare rigs some time. *wink* |
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Post by Charon's Claw on Nov 18, 2012 9:11:31 GMT -5
This idea seems pretty swanky. I could get behind it. If anything I would like Manshin brand fish jerky.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2012 9:19:31 GMT -5
This idea seems pretty swanky. I could get behind it. If anything I would like Manshin brand fish jerky. Phelzaron could create imitation 'darkharps' out of cattle bones. |
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Post by Charon's Claw on Nov 18, 2012 9:22:57 GMT -5
Darky could have music score items!
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Post by cloakedandhooded on Nov 18, 2012 17:31:02 GMT -5
I imagine Joseph would be very put-off by finding his name on something since part of his "thing" is not being too memorable. If he were going to put his name on something though, it would be the Assassin's Hood +2.
Joseph Dugan's Hood and Veil, now available in every color you want as long as you want it in charcoal gray.
Hood includes attached black veil that serves as mundane countermeasure for effects such as True Seeing that pierce the magic gray distortion illusion it otherwise conceals the face with.
Now also available in charcoal black.
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Post by The Tallest Dwarf on Feb 17, 2014 21:05:05 GMT -5
Thanks for resurrecting this because somehow I missed the chance to wholeheartedly agree!
To further the idea...I have played on servers that allow players to craft goods and also write custom names and descriptions for them, to the point that even several real life years later some of the items are still passed down from one PC to another.Maybe I'll make TL;DR posts some time that have descriptions of some items my pc's made.
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