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Post by wolf116 on Aug 31, 2011 19:49:54 GMT -5
just cause I keep getting the "you know yer bald bit" as I see Telgar (have a number of overrides running) so remeber may have alot more hair than you see  Attachments:
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sandcastles
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Post by sandcastles on Aug 31, 2011 21:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by The Supreme Watcher on Sept 1, 2011 8:53:26 GMT -5
Having overrides is against the rules.
Ditch as many as possible, then get your head modified to be the one pictured.
Don't empty out your overrides folder, however, since the 1.69 patch and the CEP use overrides.
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Post by Duchess in Masquerade on Sept 1, 2011 10:29:13 GMT -5
Well...good thing bald is in right now...  |
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elysiumfields
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Post by elysiumfields on Sept 1, 2011 11:02:46 GMT -5
Having overrides is against the rules. Not entirely true, unless it's listed else where outside of the server rules thread. As long as he's not using overrides to cheat it's not going against the rule as posted. |
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Post by DM Smass (Retired) on Sept 1, 2011 11:26:34 GMT -5
Excessive use of overrides contribute to lag...for everyone. Therefore we discourage their use. Kal can expand on this a bit if he is inclined to do so. I only use only the "hands" override personally. There are a few other overrides that are relatively harmless, but we encourage folks to be judicious in their use. Remember - this is a community server - so please take other folks play experience into consideration when choosing to use overrides.  |
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Post by kaltorac on Sept 1, 2011 13:21:58 GMT -5
Excessive use of overrides contribute to lag...for everyone. Therefore we discourage their use. Kal can expand on this a bit if he is inclined to do so. I only use only the "hands" override personally. There are a few other overrides that are relatively harmless, but we encourage folks to be judicious in their use. Remember - this is a community server - so please take other folks play experience into consideration when choosing to use overrides. Overrides that effect terrain, animations or feats are the ones to generally avoid. I've explained most of that in the post Sandcastles linked (along with how to restore an override folder easilly). The problem is that errors generated from such persist serverside until there has been a reset. Not a crash, but and actual restart of NWN. So players using many of the most popular overrides like NWNCQ or one of the various ACPs (Alternate Combat Animation overrides) or have overrides loaded because they also visit PWs or play SP modules that use the PRC Pack do themselves and all of us a disservice. With the New PC Appearance Changers that were added, players nolonger even need an override for accessing CEP heads (which only added some, but never all possible heads anyhow). Anyone that has overrides installed is welcomed to PM me with links to where on NWN Vault they downloaded from (link the page, not the actual download please). I'll let you know which are considered benign and which are harmful. Please do so in a PM though as I'll avoid commenting on most of them publicly. As far as rules and enforcing "No Overrides" goes, its just not practical and almost impossible. There is no way to verify what if anything a player has in their override folders. The only way to confirm a player is a source of errors is to have the host monitor a profile live while NWN is running and compare errors to who logged in last, who's moving and where and other things. Its tedious. The host would have to dual box and be IG as a DM to visually gain some of the clues as well as monitor one or more profiling tools running on the server. A few PWs actually do this from time to time, but its impractical if not impossible to do on FRC. So we can only inform players of our wishes and hope most are mature enough to heed what is said. To address the OP specifically ... if folk see your PC's head IG as bald, erm ... then he is. But, guess what? The head you chose as an override is already actually in the CEP and can be chosen using the New PC Appearance options for new characters here. So your override(s) have done you no real good. My suggestion? Reset your override folder to what is required for 1.69, then have a DM port you back to our changers so you can chose that head properly. |
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Shamoke
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Post by Shamoke on Sept 1, 2011 19:12:37 GMT -5
I am fairly certain you can obtain that head through the PC Modifier in-game. Have a DM teleport you there, and remove the overrides if you feel so inclined. Or just ditch the override and rp being bald. I love it when players do that.
Shamoke: *looks at Gorstag Redsteel*
Gorstag: *is bald*
Made me laugh every time. XD
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Post by wolf116 on Sept 6, 2011 22:50:42 GMT -5
Is fixed , sorry to cause so much debate over such a simple thing , if I really cared that is , its much like the talk in Greatgaunt when the old gnome came through selling fire wood , seem'ed to start such a fuss , and was quite clear to me that it was vary unlikely that he was felling trees , being both vary old and selling DRY wood , takes 6 months to a year to cure wood , feel abit ashamed of those who would deny a old man his source of income and a useful place in the society , truth is would never cheat , its a game and whats the point of cheating 1 , have been playing DnD for 36 years now and don't really care who knows it 2 , disabled most of my overrides (miss my pretty trees) 3 and if ya still have issues well I can go play some place else , *old player sadly wanders off as they continue there squabble over whether the hats in the chicken stand they hope to one day open be red or blue* oh one last picture just to remeber my neat trees Attachments:
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Post by kaltorac on Sept 6, 2011 23:39:55 GMT -5
Is fixed , sorry to cause so much debate over such a simple thing , if I really cared that is , its much like the talk in Greatgaunt when the old gnome came through selling fire wood , seem'ed to start such a fuss , and was quite clear to me that it was vary unlikely that he was felling trees , being both vary old and selling DRY wood , takes 6 months to a year to cure wood , feel abit ashamed of those who would deny a old man his source of income and a useful place in the society , truth is would never cheat , its a game and whats the point of cheating 1 , have been playing DnD for 36 years now and don't really care who knows it 2 , disabled most of my overrides (miss my pretty trees) 3 and if ya still have issues well I can go play some place else , *old player sadly wanders off as they continue there squabble over whether the hats in the chicken stand they hope to one day open be red or blue* oh one last picture just to remeber my neat trees Overrides aren't cheating. They are however harmful more often than not though. In the case of NWNCQ, even the creator has admitted they can cause issues (in other than a SP module or a PW that also uses them as haks). That same creator however did join the CEP Team and its hoped will merge his work with theirs at some point. If it merely made things look better, it also wouldn't cause issues. Many tileset overrides actually change the terrain slightly. This means that your computer and the client are constantly bickering over where you PC and others are in relation to each other. Errors build up and lag gets out of hand. Even when someone with overrides causing issues logs out of FRC, the server still lags due to the massive amount of uncleared errors. That means more interuptions in playtime as someone needs to constantly reset is all. |
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Post by Duchess in Masquerade on Sept 7, 2011 5:29:18 GMT -5
Well...I like the bearded Telgar better than the bald one to be perfectly honest. He looks more intimidating... |
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Post by DM Smass (Retired) on Sept 7, 2011 8:14:51 GMT -5
Is fixed , sorry to cause so much debate over such a simple thing , if I really cared that is , its much like the talk in Greatgaunt when the old gnome came through selling fire wood , seem'ed to start such a fuss , and was quite clear to me that it was vary unlikely that he was felling trees , being both vary old and selling DRY wood , takes 6 months to a year to cure wood , feel abit ashamed of those who would deny a old man his source of income and a useful place in the society , truth is would never cheat , its a game and whats the point of cheating 1 , have been playing DnD for 36 years now and don't really care who knows it 2 , disabled most of my overrides (miss my pretty trees) 3 and if ya still have issues well I can go play some place else , *old player sadly wanders off as they continue there squabble over whether the hats in the chicken stand they hope to one day open be red or blue* oh one last picture just to remeber my neat trees To echo Kal - nobody is trying to single you out or say you were cheating. We were just trying to educate you and others on the potential negative side effects of overrides. The issue of overrides comes up once in a while and you just happened to post about it. What we were trying to point out to you and to others who use overrides, is that they can and do affect gameplay for others. This is a community server. Its not a single player game. If someone chooses to mod their game for single player - go to town - its their play experience and they are not hurting anyone else. However, if one chooses to play on a community server then its important to consider how ones actions impact other players on the server. Its as simple as that. Its common courtesy. If you or other players were not aware that overrides can cause problems - well now you know. Your post and this thread did some good for everybody. No hard feelings. Chill dude |
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Post by wolf116 on Sept 7, 2011 12:38:42 GMT -5
OK to say I realy don't care maybe harsh , as the fact that I respond shows I do , have some vary dear friends on FRC and don't plan to leave as I would miss them greatly, so as I said have for the time being disabled my over rides and a DM did help me to fix the head thing , just did not see all the reason's why it seemed to be such an issue and all ,but I have always tried to be both far and honest both IC and OOC in my dealings with the other players and DM's here so thanks for all the feed back guys .
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Post by zDark Shadowz on Sept 7, 2011 15:56:40 GMT -5
Well...I like the bearded Telgar better than the bald one to be perfectly honest. He looks more intimidating... Exactly what I was thinking. The monk-like chrome dome he had before was just... ugh. Made him look creepy. |
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Post by Munroe on Sept 8, 2011 20:33:29 GMT -5
Well...I like the bearded Telgar better than the bald one to be perfectly honest. He looks more intimidating... Exactly what I was thinking. The monk-like chrome dome he had before was just... ugh. Made him look creepy. I'm sure he's still just as creepy with a beard, but, as was posted elsewhere (OOC forum), full beards are very trustworthy. I also like him better with a beard. Glad he's able to sport it for everyone now. |
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