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Post by EDM Entori on Mar 19, 2010 19:31:11 GMT -5
I just thought I'd get the ball rolling on this, But I want to state some things.
if I am wrong please tell me.
1) Faerun is medieval Fantasy, Medival, meaning honor, cut troats highwaymen, and Sterotypes. the VAST sharing of knowledge and rather open minded civilization that we have today does not exist.
2) Each culture has such.
3) while we are adventurers, most start at level 1 with no experience, that is a progression of story.
I hear alot of comments lately that are really, Modern in origin, and do not really suit characters at all. I know the player base has shriveled a little bit, but is it wrong to think that immersion and rp should be deciding factors in much of this?
discuss.
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Post by EDM Neo on Mar 19, 2010 20:35:52 GMT -5
Just wanting to throw this out quickly... mind that Faerun is -not- medieval Europe.
In comparison, much of the world is actually -very- progressive. Maybe not all of it, and not in regards to all things, but it's a very different world then ours was a thousand years ago. Yes, things like racism still exist, but so do cities like Silverymoon or, formerly, Myth Drannor, bastions of enlightenment where (more or less) all races lived in harmony.
Just for one example of how things are different... from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (page 83-ish):
Medieval Europe didn't have magic or orcs or dwarves or elves or anything of the sort. The gods wouldn't walk the land, and their clerics wouldn't use healing magics to cure diseases and injuries and even to raise the dead. There are similarities, especially for, say, a poor farmer, but it's a very different world.
Finally, just because you're level 1 doesn't mean you're entirely inexperienced. It just means you don't have a great deal of experience fighting and being an adventurer. You could start as a 20 year old human, a 40 year old hin, a 125 year old elf, or a 250 year old dwarf, and you'd still be level 1, but no doubt each would have -very- different experiences.
My point's just that while, yes, some, even many people in Faerun will whole heartedly embrace stereotyping others, being close minded, etc, by no means will or should everyone. It should be common enough to not be surprising, sure, but that doesn't mean it's the norm in all societies.
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Post by EDM Entori on Mar 19, 2010 21:10:15 GMT -5
Just wanting to throw this out quickly... mind that Faerun is -not- medieval Europe. In comparison, much of the world is actually -very- progressive. Maybe not all of it, and not in regards to all things, but it's a very different world then ours was a thousand years ago. Yes, things like racism still exist, but so do cities like Silverymoon or, formerly, Myth Drannor, bastions of enlightenment where (more or less) all races lived in harmony. Just for one example of how things are different... from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (page 83-ish): Medieval Europe didn't have magic or orcs or dwarves or elves or anything of the sort. The gods wouldn't walk the land, and their clerics wouldn't use healing magics to cure diseases and injuries and even to raise the dead. There are similarities, especially for, say, a poor farmer, but it's a very different world. Finally, just because you're level 1 doesn't mean you're entirely inexperienced. It just means you don't have a great deal of experience fighting and being an adventurer. You could start as a 20 year old human, a 40 year old hin, a 125 year old elf, or a 250 year old dwarf, and you'd still be level 1, but no doubt each would have -very- different experiences. My point's just that while, yes, some, even many people in Faerun will whole heartedly embrace stereotyping others, being close minded, etc, by no means will or should everyone. It should be common enough to not be surprising, sure, but that doesn't mean it's the norm in all societies. while your spot, on there is a lot of anti immersion stuff going on, and I just want people to think on it. and I suppose I meant more Swords and shields, then medieval, But from what I read Cormyrs a lot in some ways like old rome, or greece, lots of powerful families under rule. 2) Ignoring NPC's is also out there for the anti immersion, especially towards the 2 year jump and conditions around it. 3) and meta gaming non common knowledge.
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Post by The Flying Ve on Mar 20, 2010 1:51:01 GMT -5
3) and meta gaming non common knowledge. The reverse is true as well and certain "trends" in the pre-emptive alignment discerning based on dress that is common among certain professions, cultures etc. flies in the face of the common knowledge most average Faerunians have. The auto-assumption that certain colours are associated with "eebil" f.ex., is thematically incorrect and tiresome at best, bordering on, while not technically metagaming, an anti-immersion factor par excellence. For the general public: Certain colour themes are generally associated with religious organisations and a simple lore check should reveal most of the more common ones. No, black and gold robes does not mean Zhentarim, primarily: For most Faerunians, it means seer of Savras, god of divination. Also, knowing the explicit domain spells of gods and extrapolating that one cannot belong to the clergy of god X while not really having anything to do with said clergy at all is something I strongly dislike seeing. This is not something most churches spread around for everyone to know and "domains" are a rules concept primarily, secondarily an IG one. That'd be two of my pet peeves which I'd like to see less of. If the tone seems harsh, I apologise, I'm having translation and grammar problems <.<
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Post by zarathis on Mar 20, 2010 2:11:08 GMT -5
I have to agree with The Flying Ve!!!!! I know Of some folk that judge just by the colors that a character wears!!!! When No RP hapened betwen them!!!!!
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Post by Lady Frost on Mar 20, 2010 3:41:34 GMT -5
I have to agree with The Flying Ve!!!!! I know Of some folk that judge just by the colors that a character wears!!!! When No RP hapened betwen them!!!!! So? If you look creepy and wear colors that my character could associate with an evil faith you'll likely get prejudged. Prejudging tends to lead to living longer IG and in real life. I tend to stay away from the man in the hockey mask with a machete, not ask him to coffee and get to know him first. I think its completely IC to judge based on looks. That's one reason why Zoe commonly wears ice blue now and speaks politely. In my opinion I find pure black, as more than an accent, immersion breaking. It looks silly and I commonly emote my distaste. Like: *Watches silly shadow looking thing walk by* I find asking IC things in tells immersion breaking. Like, appraise scores and level or class. I could go on, but I think many of the other things are personal pet peeves so I'll keep them to myself.
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Post by Levedara on Mar 20, 2010 4:44:08 GMT -5
2) Ignoring NPC's is also out there for the anti immersion, especially towards the 2 year jump and conditions around it. 3) and meta gaming non common knowledge. I think a lot of time these two are often assumed more often than they're true. One should always remember that they don't see everything ingame, and what other characters have learned and how they behave may indeed have legitimate reasons far beyond simple ignorance or metagaming.
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Post by The Supreme Watcher on Mar 20, 2010 4:46:23 GMT -5
while your spot, on there is a lot of anti immersion stuff going on, and I just want people to think on it. and I suppose I meant more Swords and shields, then medieval, But from what I read Cormyrs a lot in some ways like old rome, or greece, lots of powerful families under rule. 2) Ignoring NPC's is also out there for the anti immersion, especially towards the 2 year jump and conditions around it. 3) and meta gaming non common knowledge. There's a difference between ignoring NPCs and doing your best to work with the unrepresented ones. Problem is: often they look the same, since they're -unrepresented.- And, uh, metagaming non-common knowledge? What's non-common knowledge? The cause of the dracorage? The weakspots on a dragon's body? Ninth level spells? Epic people know epic things. It's best not to get hung up on who knows what, as long as it's not ruining YOUR PERSONAL SITUATION. We're all here to have fun. Don't go around throwing the metagame word without weighing in the consequences of that accusation (i.e.: possible BAN).
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Post by The Flying Ve on Mar 20, 2010 4:58:18 GMT -5
So? If you look creepy and wear colors that my character could associate with an evil faith you'll likely get prejudged. Prejudging tends to lead to living longer IG and in real life. I tend to stay away from the man in the hockey mask with a machete, not ask him to coffee and get to know him first. I think its completely IC to judge based on looks. That's one reason why Zoe commonly wears ice blue now and speaks politely. My point was not towards decidedly criminal looking people(there is an important distinction between "criminal" and "evil" that often gets overlooked. Criminal is usually /chaotic/ much more than evil), like Arath, Duk or Joseph(whom neighbours of the Anauroch may actually associate more with "Bedine" than "bandit"...then again, the distinction between those two terms can be nonexistant), but towards colour schemata(as an example) that source states belong primarily to a decidedly non-evil group but are somehow immediately grouped into the "evil" part. Or vice versa, the "good" part. Pure white, funnily enough...well, the Order of the White Rod isn't that uncommon, I'm surprised a lot of its wearers don't get occasionally mistaken for Loviataran.
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Post by Aodhan the Unusual on Mar 20, 2010 6:30:26 GMT -5
I tend to stay away from the man in the hockey mask with a machete, not ask him to coffee and get to know him first. I think its completely IC to judge based on looks. That's one reason why Zoe commonly wears ice blue now and speaks politely. I'd invite him to coffee and try to ease his childhood pains of missing mommy and taking it out on all others. As for metagaming on-public knowledge, a big way this is done is by a single player sharing information between all their characters when only one was involved in an incident. Example 1: Player A logs in with their low level character Joe-Bob and witnesses a crime happening (or is even victim). Player A logs out then comes back with Jimmy Dean, their epic, and proceeds to hunt down and kill the one that attacked Joe-Bob or his friends. Before it is even public knowledge something has happened. Example 2: Player B logs in their sweet and innocent Susy, who happens to be walking around in Suzail and suddenly overhears two evil people plotting something sinister! Player B later logs in with Dietzel, super spy extrodinaire, and tells his spy companions, or tries to sell the information, or otherwise uses this secret information that Susy picked up. Both of these are metagaming (and just some examples). This has been happening more recently. If you cannot remember what one character knows over another, you can use the in game journal to keep notes, or in worst case scenario, don't use the information at all. Also, unless someone mentions one of your other characters in public, your characters shouldn't know each other. Just because you think your epic level paladin is hot stuff doesn't mean it's public knowledge who he is, what he's done, or anything of the like. As such, because there isn't a way for your epic paladin and your low level wizard to actually meet and talk, there's no way the knowledge your paladin has can be shared with your wizard directly. As I said, these are just a couple of cases of metagaming that have been happening more recently. Some other cases still include reading the floaty names above peoples' heads, ignoring NPCs both represented and not, and being hostile towards someone who clicks you hostile when there may be absolutely no reason to be what so ever. Please keep in mind that while this is a game, metagaming is a serious offense we don't take too kindly on. Metagaming CAN ruin other peoples' fun. Think twice before doing it. Or even twenty times. Over thinking couldn't hurt for some.
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Post by iangallowglas on Mar 20, 2010 6:30:59 GMT -5
while your spot, on there is a lot of anti immersion stuff going on, and I just want people to think on it. and I suppose I meant more Swords and shields, then medieval, But from what I read Cormyrs a lot in some ways like old rome, or greece, lots of powerful families under rule. 2) Ignoring NPC's is also out there for the anti immersion, especially towards the 2 year jump and conditions around it. 3) and meta gaming non common knowledge. There's a difference between ignoring NPCs and doing your best to work with the unrepresented ones. Problem is: often they look the same, since they're -unrepresented.- And, uh, metagaming non-common knowledge? What's non-common knowledge? The cause of the dracorage? The weakspots on a dragon's body? Ninth level spells? Epic people know epic things. It's best not to get hung up on who knows what, as long as it's not ruining YOUR PERSONAL SITUATION. We're all here to have fun. Don't go around throwing the metagame word without weighing in the consequences of that accusation (i.e.: possible BAN). I would hope that to know Epics things, unless the character has first hand experience with them, they would have Epic ranks in lore or some related feats or classes to justify knowing them. Using the Glando's examples from above, I would say Epic ranks in Lore with a character driven focus on dragons and the dracorage to know the cause of the Dracorage, if that's even possible because it's so recent it's probably not even available for research without being an Epic Diviner; Weak spots in a dragons armor might be represented by favored enemy dragon for a ranger, or associated lore ranks and in-game RP studying or hunting of dragons; Ninth level spells, by being a spell casting class and/or having high ranks in spellcraft. Regardless, most of us don't know another characters reasons for knowing certain things without knowing the characters themselves. But people do need to be cognizant of the fact that you need to be putting ranks in lore or have other in-game reasons (feats, classes, RP) why your character knows the things they know. As a side note, I also think that when you make a character, you shouldn't start with him knowing everything about a subject. A first level fighter shouldn't know everything about fighting, a first level wizard shouldn't know everything about everything ;D, and 4 ranks in lore and an 16 or 18 INT doesn't make you an expert in anything. Give the character some levels and time RPing research before your an expert in anything. I've seen both old and new players overdue the lore thing at low levels. I like to think first level is like getting out of college in RL, you think you know everything there is to know about what you got your degree in, but you find out you know barely enough to do your job and you have just scratched the surface on what you really need to know.
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Post by EDM Entori on Mar 20, 2010 8:58:55 GMT -5
There's a difference between ignoring NPCs and doing your best to work with the unrepresented ones. Problem is: often they look the same, since they're -unrepresented.- And, uh, metagaming non-common knowledge? What's non-common knowledge? The cause of the dracorage? The weakspots on a dragon's body? Ninth level spells? Epic people know epic things. It's best not to get hung up on who knows what, as long as it's not ruining YOUR PERSONAL SITUATION. We're all here to have fun. Don't go around throwing the metagame word without weighing in the consequences of that accusation (i.e.: possible BAN). I would hope that to know Epics things, unless the character has first hand experience with them, they would have Epic ranks in lore or some related feats or classes to justify knowing them. Using the Glando's examples from above, I would say Epic ranks in Lore with a character driven focus on dragons and the dracorage to know the cause of the Dracorage, if that's even possible because it's so recent it's probably not even available for research without being an Epic Diviner; Weak spots in a dragons armor might be represented by favored enemy dragon for a ranger, or associated lore ranks and in-game RP studying or hunting of dragons; Ninth level spells, by being a spell casting class and/or having high ranks in spellcraft. Regardless, most of us don't know another characters reasons for knowing certain things without knowing the characters themselves. But people do need to be cognizant of the fact that you need to be putting ranks in lore or have other in-game reasons (feats, classes, RP) why your character knows the things they know. As a side note, I also think that when you make a character, you shouldn't start with him knowing everything about a subject. A first level fighter shouldn't know everything about fighting, a first level wizard shouldn't know everything about everything ;D, and 4 ranks in lore and an 16 or 18 INT doesn't make you an expert in anything. Give the character some levels and time RPing research before your an expert in anything. I've seen both old and new players overdue the lore thing at low levels. I like to think first level is like getting out of college in RL, you think you know everything there is to know about what you got your degree in, but you find out you know barely enough to do your job and you have just scratched the surface on what you really need to know. thank you for being mentally telepathy and representing the words that I couldn't drag out of my head diplomaticly. note: I'm an ASS poor typer, you all know it, but I'm not the best writer, I tend to be a bit bold in my statements for A) not pussy footing around topics, or B) just don't know how to say something with diplomacy, either after writing it too fast, or in a passion. For that I apologize.
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Post by gainreduction on Mar 20, 2010 10:34:49 GMT -5
Just keep in mind also, that those LORE rank count... and also does the topics of a taverns common drinking room. Some could be twisted greatly out of fashion, but on the most part this is what I think:
A character that has a background in a certain field, will know about it.. and often learn about more in this field. Say a specific topic, some will learn more about, like a wizardly type or roguish type would learn more of lore, or history or in the rogue's situation, eavesdropping on conversations or learning what they can by being a jack of all trades...
A fighter might learn from being a mercenary, or being in the military woudl learn a lot about armies or even small details of certain NPCs.
I think it's reasonable to assume epics would gather more information than level 1's regarding certain topics. Certainly if they had a background in it, or a reason to research it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2010 18:25:56 GMT -5
My character has black and gold robes for this reason.
Anyway,
What i notice alot of is players throwing around the "metagaming" tag when they do not like the fact Player A has discovered something that was supposed to be secret. An example of this is say... Player B and Player C see Player A. Player A allows Player C to know who they are yet calls Player B a metagamer when they try to follow the same precident despite the fact that both player B and player C know Player A (Without rolls being made).
As Levedara said (I think it was her) you do not know and do not see everything that happens in game. Instead of throwing the tag around Man Up and ASK the player what is going on in a civilised way. Because i do not know about you all... but if anyone has attitude or arrogance when sending me a tell... yeah, they are going to get attitude and arrogance right back.
As for Uncommon Knowledge... well... when prepared my character can hit over one hundred on his Lore Modifier (As the screenshot in my Gallery shows). I have always roleplayed him as being a Planar expert. So... with that amount of Lore... what is and is not uncommon knowledge? Its something i have issue with alot and i end up pestering certain DM's about it more often then not. My point being... Lore Ranks do count for something. If you want to know stuff, put up your Lore Ranks.
Ah, ignoring NPC's, my favourite topic. If the NPC is there and you can see it then you should never ignore it. If it is witness to a murder, hey, shoot it in the face... you see my point (I hope). The unrepresented NPC's though... this always annoys all hell out of me. Different Players and Different DM's have different oppinions and ideas on what unrepresented NPC's are where. So there is no consistency... meaning that if the same crime is commited four times and dealt with by four different DM's, there could be four completely different verdicts. (I exagerate to make a point).
And Floating Names... Sheesh. This is an old and long since dead horse. If someone walks into town in disguise it is amazing how quickly the topic can change from something sensitive (If any of it is heard people just throw the metagamer tag around) to mundane topics. Or They start quaffing True Sight potions and the like... if it is an illusion ring that is. Unless there is some way to turn this ability off server side, it will always be an issue.
I think that has addressed the other issues presented. By addressed i mean shown my oppinion on such. Now for the topic title.
Immersion is a tricky one... different people find different things break their Immersion. Such as my character... my typing and grammar is poor, so Elvewyn often sounds dumber then a cup of mud, despite his massive intelligence. And their are a few mages like this. Others find pure black to be an Immersion breaker due to how unrealistic it is. Yet most seem to love it. Others find modern day "lingo" an Immersion break... The point i am trying to make is that just because something breaks your own Immersion does not mean it is breaking the Immersion of others. So do not wage a war of hate on the person doing whatever it is that you find breaks your Immersion, just stay away from said player. Hells, if i did not take my own advice i would be offending people ALL day long.
This is not meant as an attack on anyone, just things i have witnessed and experienced. If you are going to take it as an attack on yourself despite this disclaimer, have fun.
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Post by soulfien on Mar 21, 2010 16:08:02 GMT -5
I have to agree with The Flying Ve!!!!! I know Of some folk that judge just by the colors that a character wears!!!! When No RP hapened betwen them!!!!! In a world where people dress for the occasion, judging colors is something that is very understandable. If someone is going to wear the colors of a dark god, then they're going to have to prove they simply like the colors. If someone is going to wear the symbol of cyric on their cloak, it doesn't take an interrogation to come up with the assumption that they worship Cyric. Also, necromancer robes, pure black, glowing eyes, etc.... all point to "I am not a nice person." As far as domain powers... some are obvious... some are not.
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Post by soulfien on Mar 21, 2010 16:11:10 GMT -5
I tend to stay away from the man in the hockey mask with a machete, not ask him to coffee and get to know him first. I think its completely IC to judge based on looks. That's one reason why Zoe commonly wears ice blue now and speaks politely. I'd invite him to coffee and try to ease his childhood pains of missing mommy and taking it out on all others. Kinky
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Post by dirtysloth on Mar 21, 2010 19:27:43 GMT -5
there is nothing wrong with judging people by the way they dress as long as you judge them based on the knowledge and opinions of your character just because you know certain factions dress a certain way does not mean your character does I have been enjoying pointing out gorstag redsteel as a banite as often as I see him without a helm OOC yes I know he is not IC I have been told banites tend to wear red cloaks and be bald so that wins out when I see him IC and makes for amusing encounters from time to time
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Post by lakhena on Mar 21, 2010 19:55:36 GMT -5
Banites wear red cloaks and are bald? Lolz. I hope someone tells Oenemi that one day!
I always get amused when people judge by clothing and colors. There are times I use this to my advantage when playing shady PCs and other times I just like to break the mold.
I don't find it immersion breaking at all for others to act upon stereotypes -- I prefer it, actually. The open-mindedness that I see all too often is a bit disappointing as I prefer to see tension between characters. Tension creates more interesting rp (in my opinion) than the let's-all-gather-and-give-a-group-hug environments I sometimes run into on other servers. My PCs will discriminate against you, they will have biases. It's how I show my lurve.
(Also, feel free to ask me why my druid wears blue and white and not green and other typical woodsy colors.)
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Post by The Flying Ve on Mar 21, 2010 20:22:53 GMT -5
All I can really say to that is the biases quickly burn down to "tedious" at best. When you see the same thing over and over again, eventually you just figure "screw it" and go have fun elsewhere. Main reason my higher level chars are rarely seen in Greatgaunt nowadays.
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Post by lakhena on Mar 21, 2010 21:00:17 GMT -5
Well, it really depends on how people rp those biases, right? If you're seeing the same reaction and type of responses, heck yeah, it gets tedious. I'm an advocate for creative discrimination, which doesn't always have to be insults or complete avoidance.
Don't like elves? Charge them more when selling or trading gear/magic wands. Annoyed at the Thayans? Start some dirty rumors about Aunt Leelo's dog become undead or some such nonsense...
Not seeing biases doesn't break immersion for me, it just makes it kind of a blah environment, imho, absent DM events to entertain us.
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Post by The Flying Ve on Mar 21, 2010 22:21:24 GMT -5
Well, it really depends on how people rp those biases, right? If you're seeing the same reaction and type of responses, heck yeah, it gets tedious. I'm an advocate for creative discrimination, which doesn't always have to be insults or complete avoidance. Don't like elves? Charge them more when selling or trading gear/magic wands. Annoyed at the Thayans? Start some dirty rumors about Aunt Leelo's dog become undead or some such nonsense... Not seeing biases doesn't break immersion for me, it just makes it kind of a blah environment, imho, absent DM events to entertain us. Word on that. +1 for being creative about it
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Post by 828stingstingneo on Mar 22, 2010 11:26:05 GMT -5
there is nothing wrong with judging people by the way they dress as long as you judge them based on the knowledge and opinions of your character just because you know certain factions dress a certain way does not mean your character does I have the opposite problem. Not being a native to the FR campaign setting, I'm guessing I know way less than many of my characters might regarding faction dress codes. I can take the time to research my own character backgrounds a bit, but there is no way I can research and remember every faction my character may be familiar with. For the most part, I rely on my in game experience to develop any biases, not source knowledge. For example, my characters would recognize the Purple Dragon uniform in all likelihood since I see them in game. Other than that, I have not seen enough consistent patterns of dress from PCs and NPCs to guess based on clothing that any certain character is part of a certain order or group.
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Post by The Supreme Watcher on Mar 22, 2010 14:19:04 GMT -5
I just want to encourage everyone to immerse themselves in FRC however they personally want to be immersed. It's true that players tend to gravitate towards others who enjoy playing how they do. If you don't enjoy another player's role play, or feel that they don't respect the setting how you do, there's a simple, easy way to fix it: avoid them!
I have had my immersion broken several times through interaction with characters... then I ghosted on them. There's no need to be rude or accusatory about it, either - just walk away. Make an excuse, and just walk away. The problem, many of you will find, isn't not enjoying their role play, but feeling as if you -have- to interact with people whose role play you do not enjoy. FRC's a big module. Move around, find the people who play how you enjoy playing, and form a group of them you can play with whenever you log on.
I've been here 2 1/2 years, and I'm still forming my group. It gets bigger every day, and lately (past 5 months or so), the group has burgeoned with the new faces.
When it comes down to it, look past all those levels, all those mechanics, and look at the character. If the character itself is something you do not feel comfortable or immersed with, then move on. This will dissuade player feuds and, hopefully, increase your enjoyment of the server, the community, and the delicious, wonderful loot.
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Post by darinder on Mar 22, 2010 14:32:12 GMT -5
there is nothing wrong with judging people by the way they dress as long as you judge them based on the knowledge and opinions of your character just because you know certain factions dress a certain way does not mean your character does I have the opposite problem. Not being a native to the FR campaign setting, I'm guessing I know way less than many of my characters might regarding faction dress codes. I can take the time to research my own character backgrounds a bit, but there is no way I can research and remember every faction my character may be familiar with. For the most part, I rely on my in game experience to develop any biases, not source knowledge. For example, my characters would recognize the Purple Dragon uniform in all likelihood since I see them in game. Other than that, I have not seen enough consistent patterns of dress from PCs and NPCs to guess based on clothing that any certain character is part of a certain order or group. For me, the reverse case is even more "obvious" - but that's because I'm colour blind. Though, given some of the discussions (complaints?) given earlier in this thread, it seems that may in fact be a good thing.
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Post by soulfien on Mar 22, 2010 17:09:24 GMT -5
what I hate more than anything is to be told "your character doesn't know that. You're metagaming."
There is not one person on this whole server who has enough knowledge of my characters to even begin to tell me what they know or don't know.
It's always possible to know something about an evil PC. Unless you log in when no one is on, do something evil, and log out, there's always the possibility that someone knows something about you.
Though I keep myself apart from all the secret plots of other people's pc's now a days because I've been told way too many times that my PC's couldn't possibly know what they are about.
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Post by kayla on Mar 22, 2010 18:57:05 GMT -5
I usually send a tell sometimes .... Like that sure is interesting what your doing. Then get the What i never summoned that thing.. Then go okay sure everyone walks around with a decaying angel. That way later on people have some idea what might know. Not a must just puts peoples memory to use when I go remmeber about month ago that decay angel had ...Well why your lying dead there have good day. At least person goes uh yes that was right. If not usually get the never done that. Screen shots help alot and logs which are pain so sutle hint makes it smoother.
Of course not always always like say someone complaining and so glad dms deal with the mess more often then not so Kudos to them cause everyone thinks there smarter then everyone they meet.
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