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Post by austrogoth on Dec 29, 2009 15:53:26 GMT -5
Yeah, the NPC point is a great one. I'd also say that when DMs create NPCs for quests they often seem to fit neatly into the stereotypes (which only makes sense from a storytelling standpoint). We PCs are often the oddballs and outcasts, unless you put limitations on what people create you're going to see ebbs and flows of exceptions outnumbering the rules. If there are more dwarf druids at a given time than dwarf fighters, well, that just might mean two or three dwarf druids found their way to Isinhold; it doesn't mean there aren't two million stereotypical dwarves mining away under the mountains.
The point about the game being long in the tooth is good as well. Many of us are NWN and D&D veterans who've played the archetypes a dozen times, and have a creative (or at least, what we think is clever) idea for a half-orc bard for "something different." Of course most of these ideas don't last too long, but still. Sometimes you have to humor these whims.
Now, being Australian, I'm going to polish off this can of Fosters, tell some folks my knife is bigger than theirs and go throw some shrimp on the barbie. Because I'd hate to not live up to the stereotype, right?
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Post by Lady Frost on Dec 29, 2009 17:03:00 GMT -5
I think Garum is a good example of a traditional type PC that has a strong, unique personality. my 2 cents.
On topic:
I have no issues with conventional vs non. As many have stated, I have an issue with believability and player understanding towards that. If you want to play a male sun elf of Loviatar and be from Dambrath you can't just log in having done no research and wing it.
If you plan on spending years playing a PC then a few hours of research ahead of time is not too much to ask, I don't think.
As Stingsting mentioned, it can be tough for a new player to step in and all of a sudden have D&D veterans critiquing you and your PC's history. I understand that and we all were there once. Hopefully those in that position are learning things as you go.
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Post by longearmage on Dec 29, 2009 19:06:21 GMT -5
Quick sidenote. From the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, 3rd Edition: | Evereska's rulers are the Hill Elders, elves of immense age, learning and power. Thanks to the Hill Elders' care and foresight, Evereska's inhabitants are free to live deep within the elven mysteries. Some elves never leave Evereska for the outside world. Others guard the city with unceasing vigilance. |
Not saying Candlekeep is wrong about the Silvanus shrine in Evereska, but if they are as "deep within the elven mysteries" as the FRCS suggests, then I find it highly unlikely that there would be one. If there's debate on this, let's take it to another thread. I just didn't want to start a whole new thread on my own.  [/hijack] |
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Post by soulfien on Dec 29, 2009 19:22:45 GMT -5
Well, find some more source then.
With Candlekeep being the only one to provide a layout of the city.....
I'm sure someone can find another source.
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Post by ConcreteSequential on Dec 29, 2009 20:26:00 GMT -5
Well, find some more source then. With Candlekeep being the only one to provide a layout of the city..... I'm sure someone can find another source. Probably deserves it's own thread, but I'll put some info here. The map is pretty much what was included with the old 2nd edition Forgotten Realms Map Program, all the maps in the program were put together from source. I don't have it installed anymore, but it looks about the same. Someone else might be able to chime in on that. A quick google search will lead you to a couple other maps in another format that looked identical at first glance. I didn't go through the entire timeline listed, but that would be easy for someone with the Realms Timeline. Again, at first glance a couple of the times were source, but I didn't check them all. If I were to guess at a likely reference for the quoted material, I'd suggest the old 2nd edition grey box FR Campaign setting. One of the books in it had a sidenote or blurb about Evereska that was similar, but it's been a while and I need to find it. The wife says it's in a box somewhere though and that's not a good indication in regard to finding it anytime soon. |
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Post by soulfien on Dec 29, 2009 20:34:47 GMT -5
Monroe says 3rd edition source doesn't have it in there so I was wrong  |
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Post by Munroe on Jan 4, 2010 4:56:21 GMT -5
Monroe says 3rd edition source doesn't have it in there so I was wrong Are you talking about Evereska? I haven't been reading this thread. I told you FRCS doesn't mention the human shrines in Evereska. I just checked one book though, not all of "3rd Edition source." :-P My name is spelled M-U-N-R-O-E. It's six letters long. |
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