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Post by Lady Frost on Dec 3, 2009 13:22:40 GMT -5
There are OOC rules about what you are allowed to RP/create. You can't create drow, play nobles, etc. BUT! Does that mean you can't RP that?
My thought is 'no'. Your PC should be allowed to say whatever they want. If you want to claim to be a noble or king or god or whatever, that's ok right?
The thread where this came from talked a little about the elves. If the elves want to convince everyone that the Hullack is theirs then that should be fine. Its RP.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 13:26:39 GMT -5
Personally i like to see Bluff roles being made. If you want to lie about something, make the bluff check. If you pass i will go along with it, if you dont...well. But, you get the point.
~Sio
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Post by easternenterprise on Dec 3, 2009 13:33:55 GMT -5
Personally i like to see Bluff roles being made. If you want to lie about something, make the bluff check. If you pass i will go along with it, if you dont...well. But, you get the point. ~Sio Not everything is a bluff. There's bluffing, and then there's absolution in someones mind. Sharteel makes a lot of claims that aren't bluffs, but absolutions in her mind. Even if the PC asked me to roll for bluff, I'd say tell them, "The truth she's telling you is based upon her perception." What's OOC concrete accuracy doesn't mean it'll be known ICly as well. As long as your roleplay doesn't ruin the fun of another, it should be fine. If the 'others' get too sensitive about something OOCly, then that's their cheese and whine. Things should be handled ICly. Things aren't on a 'carebear' level all the time. If a PC is told to stay out of the Hullack on pain of death, that may step into a grey area. You could complain about it OOCly if you were feeling lazy, or you could just handle it ICly like a mature player. You know, the people behind the screen usually aren't there to tarnish fun with their ideas. They'd like to include the other as best they can. It sometimes involves hostility, and sometimes it doesn't. Adventuring is a dangerous career. |
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Post by Lady Frost on Dec 3, 2009 14:51:12 GMT -5
Personally i like to see Bluff roles being made. If you want to lie about something, make the bluff check. If you pass i will go along with it, if you dont...well. But, you get the point. ~Sio I don't mind bluff checks but many times they are for OOC reasons. If a DM showed up as an NPC named "Sir William, Noble of Waterdeep" people aren't going to ask for roles. But if Zoe showed up in disguise and claimed to be "Lady Thompson, Noble from Neverwinter", I have little doubt people would ask for dice roles. This moves into the other threads purpose. My point was that anyone should be able to attempt to RP whatever they want within the OOC rules. If you want to try to claim to be Helm, you should be able to try. If you want to claim that Tyrluk was supposed to be willed to you and that the crown stole it, you should be able to try to RP that. |
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Post by Pookey on Dec 23, 2009 10:46:22 GMT -5
I don't mind bluff checks but many times they are for OOC reasons. If a DM showed up as an NPC named "Sir William, Noble of Waterdeep" people aren't going to ask for roles. But if Zoe showed up in disguise and claimed to be "Lady Thompson, Noble from Neverwinter", I have little doubt people would ask for dice roles. This moves into the other threads purpose. My point was that anyone should be able to attempt to RP whatever they want within the OOC rules. If you want to try to claim to be Helm, you should be able to try. If you want to claim that Tyrluk was supposed to be willed to you and that the crown stole it, you should be able to try to RP that. IMHO if the NPC isn't really Sir William, the DM should make the bluff roll to successfully disguise Sir William. This is only fair, since you're right that people would probably insist that Zoe make a bluff roll. I wouldn't, unless she did something to make my characters suspicious, but that's just me. I've had characters with very strong delusions of who they were or how the world worked, and I never bothered with bluff rolls because they were absolutely convinced they were something they weren't or that the world worked in a certain way, when it manifestly didn't. My understanding of the restriction is that you can't make it true that your character is a noble, for example, but you are free to make the claim (knowing that there will be consequences for false claims of nobility, which were historically capital crimes). Ditto for saying you're the avatar of Helm or the long lost Prince of the Drow. Nothing to stop you from saying it, you just can't OOC make it part of your character's "real" background. Or in short: I agree! |
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