|
|
Post by helaman on Mar 14, 2007 16:49:49 GMT -5
I'm wanting to play a Samurai type of Character - with martial arts skills and then progressing him... but not just a fighter, but a master of the blade. Taking the same drive and focus taught to him in his youth and applying it to the Katana.
I've taken the Monk to 2nd Level and will Multi to a fighter soon - never to return to Monk...
This is not a major issue, Monks of the Long Death can multi-class freely as fighters (according to the forum). At this point he woiuld not be deemed by the Order to have departed from the path of wisdom etc etc...
But what if at level 12 (2nd Monk / 10th fighter) I wish to take PrC as a Weapons Master, what would that take? My assumption is leaving the order... which would have in-game and RP consequences.
Before I invest six months in this character, only to be told WM is not gonna happen, can you advise if this would be allowed? I assume that there will be consistant and long term RP needed...
|
|
|
|
Post by EDM Neo on Mar 14, 2007 18:33:41 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure, but I believe that monks can freely multiclass as weapon masters.
|
|
|
|
Post by marklar on Mar 14, 2007 22:31:07 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by helaman on Mar 14, 2007 23:47:52 GMT -5
Yes... I got that... hence my reference to the Monks of the Long Death not having an issue with me being a fighter etc etc. What I need to clear with the GMs is me 'leaving' the order... if this can be cleared or not, and what sort of RP expectations will the GM team have. |
|
|
|
Post by helaman on Mar 15, 2007 0:00:15 GMT -5
Heres something I found that is interesting *bump* There is a new crop of Weapon Master's coming up... rapidly, and so I think this is valid once again. I also want to put in that a weapon master is not a fighter. At all. A Weapon Master is much more closley attuned to a monk than a fighter. Like a monk, a WM tries to achieve perfection of his art with his choosen weapon. Mastering the "Ki" neccessary to attune his mind and body to his art is not something that can be achieved by a slovenly fighter who has achieved great prowess by beating the crap out of people in bars. A weapon master's ability comes from training every part of his being, like a monk. Self awareness, an intelligent approach to combat, patience, and strict self dicipline. These are things which should define a WM. Those of you taking Weapon Master should keep this in mind. The class should never be taken lightly or just because of the cool benifits. If your characte is a roudy fighter who never gave a second thought to "Ki" and just loves to fight, you should seriously reconsider taking WM. New characters should be striving toward the weapon master class from early on, focusing on the specialized skills and mind-set that a future WM must have. I personally RPed every prerequisite feat as part of mastering the nodachi, and I think that should just be something that, as players on a Roleplaying Server, we should do. Because this class is potentially very powerful, its your responsibilty to put the time and RP into it that makes it believable. This really applies to any class you take. Manshin This is definetely what I have in mind - that same devotion to perfection - but my character is drawn to his warrior caste heritage - he even carries the DaiSho (Paired Katana and Wakazashi, despite the fact that as a monk he cant use them - I screwed up the level 1 build, I did mean to take Exotic weapons at level 1). Sounds like Manshin is someone I need to talk to... |
|
|
|
Post by EDM Neo on Mar 15, 2007 8:43:42 GMT -5
Monks kind of get shafted on this class in NWN. According to Sword and Fist (page 39):
Weapon Master
The monk, the red avenger, the drunken master, and the master samurai all harness ki energy as part of their martial disciplines; they are not, however, the only such persons to do so. Some pursue the study of ki by mastering a single melee weapon. To unite this weapon of choice with the body, to make them one, to use the weapon as naturally and without thought as any other limb, is the goal of the weapon master.
Monks who follow this path may choose unarmed attacks or the kama, nunchaku, siangham (see the Player's Handbook, Chapter 7) or the three-section staff (see Chapter 5 of this book) as their weapon of choice. In order to gain any of the special abilities of the weapon master class, you must use your weapon of choice. Once chosen, the weapon of choice cannot be later changed.
This does not mean that, if your weapon of choice is the longsword, you can only use the longsword you owned when you first became a weapon master. The only material requirement for the class is a masterwork version of your weapon. It means you can use any masterwork longsword and gain the benefits of the weapon master.
If you use any other weapon, you can use none of the special abilities of the prestige class.
Requirements
To qualify to become a weapon master, a character must fulfill all of the following criteria:
Base Attack Bonus: +5
Intimidate: 4 ranks
Proficiency: With your weapon of choice.
Weapon: Masterwork weapon (unless unarmed).
Feats: Dodge, Mobility, Combat Reflexes, Expertise, Weapon Focus, Whirlwind Attack, DEX 13+.
Class Skills
[Omitted]
Class Features [Descriptions, which were purely mechanical, are omitted.]
Ki Damage
Increased Multiplier
Superior Weapon Focus
Superior Combat Reflexes
Ki Critical
Ki Whirlwind
Multiclass note: Monk characters can freely multiclass with this class. In other words, you can give your monk PC a weapon master level, then return to the monk class for your next level, take a weapon master level after that, and so on. |
My omissions are in straight brackets. [] Just copying from Munroe's post in another topic. Note the bolded section. |
|
|
|
Post by Quadhund/Greenhouse on Mar 15, 2007 9:59:50 GMT -5
If you want a distinct answer from the DMs, I would ask that next time you post in the DM Q&A section. The post of Munroe's specifically states that monks can multiclass freely to weapon masters. So, if you want a 2monk/10fighter/weapon master, there is no problem with this.
|
|
|
|
Post by kaltorac on Mar 15, 2007 20:30:09 GMT -5
Shouldn't he take at least three levels as a monk inorder to meet the twenty first level criteria?
|
|
|
|
Post by helaman on Mar 15, 2007 22:36:41 GMT -5
Shouldn't he take at least three levels as a monk inorder to meet the twenty first level criteria? Sorry, could you explain futher? |
|
|
|
Post by Munroe on Mar 16, 2007 0:43:54 GMT -5
You've taken my post out of context. I was quoting the source material to explain the class, not detailing our rules. Actually, there's a more recent post that I made, and I did make it explicit in that post to disregard that note. Note the bolded section: I posted this in another thread about Weapon Masters recently. It seems like it has a place in this conversation as well. Monks kind of get shafted on this class in NWN. According to Sword and Fist (page 39): Weapon Master The monk, the red avenger, the drunken master, and the master samurai all harness ki energy as part of their martial disciplines; they are not, however, the only such persons to do so. Some pursue the study of ki by mastering a single melee weapon. To unite this weapon of choice with the body, to make them one, to use the weapon as naturally and without thought as any other limb, is the goal of the weapon master. Monks who follow this path may choose unarmed attacks or the kama, nunchaku, siangham (see the Player's Handbook, Chapter 7) or the three-section staff (see Chapter 5 of this book) as their weapon of choice. In order to gain any of the special abilities of the weapon master class, you must use your weapon of choice. Once chosen, the weapon of choice cannot be later changed. This does not mean that, if your weapon of choice is the longsword, you can only use the longsword you owned when you first became a weapon master. The only material requirement for the class is a masterwork version of your weapon. It means you can use any masterwork longsword and gain the benefits of the weapon master. If you use any other weapon, you can use none of the special abilities of the prestige class. Requirements To qualify to become a weapon master, a character must fulfill all of the following criteria: Base Attack Bonus: +5 Intimidate: 4 ranks Proficiency: With your weapon of choice. Weapon: Masterwork weapon (unless unarmed). Feats: Dodge, Mobility, Combat Reflexes, Expertise, Weapon Focus, Whirlwind Attack, DEX 13+. Class Skills [Omitted] Class Features [Descriptions, which were purely mechanical, are omitted.] Ki Damage Increased Multiplier Superior Weapon Focus Superior Combat Reflexes Ki Critical Ki Whirlwind Multiclass note: Monk characters can freely multiclass with this class. In other words, you can give your monk PC a weapon master level, then return to the monk class for your next level, take a weapon master level after that, and so on. My omissions are in straight brackets. [] | Note that monk multiclassing on FRC is by monastic order so the free multiclassing note is not actually applicable. |
|
|
|
|
Post by Munroe on Mar 16, 2007 0:50:53 GMT -5
And, yes, if you want an answer from DMs, it is best to post your question in the DM Questions and Answers forum. Otherwise, you're just inviting commentary.
|
|
