New to RP

[torquil]

Greetings

This is my first foray into a RP server, having been exclusively action previously. I'm looking for advice. I read all the rules but please advise and accept my apologies if there's anything in this post which is off limits. 

I generally explore new environments as a Paladin, but note the multi class restrictions in the rules. Paladin/Fighter/CoT appears to be acceptable to some orders providing CoT is taken after level 10. However if I begin as a fighter, can I take a Paladin level as 2nd level, or would I need to earn membership of an order before I could take a Paladin level?

All advice most welcome.

[Southpaw]

What exactly do you need advice about? The general concept of role playing? General paladin role play? This server's specific rules? Anything more specific would help, that's a very broad question.

[torquil]

Initially just server advice as to whether if I start as a fighter I can take paladin at level 2, or whether I need to begin as a Paladin?

[Southpaw]

Mar 28, 2021 14:03:35 GMT -5 torquil said:

Initially just server advice as to whether if I start as a fighter I can take paladin at level 2, or whether I need to begin as a Paladin?

The character creation rules will let you know which paladin orders can multiclass in which way.  That can be found here:

frc.proboards.com/thread/29392/server-expanded-character-creation-rules?page=1&scrollTo=316871


Look for an order corresponding to your character's deity, and it will tell you what you can do.  The general case is that you can have your character be part of an order, and the order listed will tell you which classes you can multiclass with freely.  "Multiclass freely" means that you can take as many levels in paladin or the other class(es) any way you want, unless a limitation is specified in the order description.  If your character is not part of an order, then they have to start as paladin, and have to stop taking levels in paladin permanently if they multiclass at all, even for one level.

Things should be fairly self explanatory from the rules page, but feel free to ask any questions you might have.

[nemusator]

Hello and welcome. Hope you will have fun.

[Warlord]

Mar 28, 2021 12:36:34 GMT -5 torquil said:

I generally explore new environments as a Paladin, but note the multi class restrictions in the rules. Paladin/Fighter/CoT appears to be acceptable to some orders providing CoT is taken after level 10. However if I begin as a fighter, can I take a Paladin level as 2nd level, or would I need to earn membership of an order before I could take a Paladin level?

All advice most welcome.

Welcome aboard. Hope things are working out well so far!

I think players can elect to make a Fighter, that then becomes a paladin. I recall prior discussions of this and the memory is a bit hazy TBH.

When you choose to go paladin and go back to fighter, or another class, then that paladin /must/ be apart of an Order that allows for such. The "multiclass freely" clause as you were describing.

So if your PC goes paladin and chooses a god that does not have an order for any multiclassing at all ... you are "stuck" going paladin the whole way. If you decide to opt-out of paladin and go back to fighter, or any other class, while not being in an appropriate order - you cannot take paladin levels again. DMs even encourage this communication directly with them to help with any other perspectives.

Explaining it is kind of wordy but it makes sense.

Fighter + Paladin (roll on as paladin) = OK.
Fighter + Paladin + Roll back to fighter or Another Class = Maybe, depends on Order
Fighter + Paladin + Choose Another Class (No Order) or Back to Fighter (No Order) = Never take paladin again

I'd keep it simple myself. Starting as a paladin in forgotten realms can be tricky stuff initially. Maybe Fighter/Divine Champion is a way to go? You can embody the "Divine warrior" essence and with half the spiritual politics to help transition interests here as an alternative until one gets a finer grasp of Paladinhood for this setting.

PS. And yes, if you choose a PRC (like Champion of Torm), the base pre-req for FRC needs to achieve this at level 10 or above.

[malclave]

Mar 30, 2021 1:13:06 GMT -5 Warlord said:

I think players can elect to make a Fighter, that then becomes a paladin. I recall prior discussions of this and the memory is a bit hazy TBH.

When you choose to go paladin and go back to fighter, or another class, then that paladin /must/ be apart of an Order that allows for such. The "multiclass freely" clause as you were describing.

So if your PC goes paladin and chooses a god that does not have an order for any multiclassing at all ... you are "stuck" going paladin the whole way. If you decide to opt-out of paladin and go back to fighter, or any other class, while not being in an appropriate order - you cannot take paladin levels again. DMs even encourage this communication directly with them to help with any other perspectives.

Explaining it is kind of wordy but it makes sense.

Fighter + Paladin (roll on as paladin) = OK.
Fighter + Paladin + Roll back to fighter or Another Class = Maybe, depends on Order
Fighter + Paladin + Choose Another Class (No Order) or Back to Fighter (No Order) = Never take paladin again

I don't think that's correct, unless there's a more recent ruling I've missed. FRC interprets the "freely multiclassing" rule to apply to characters taking the first level of paladin or monk, so a character must have a valid order to multiclass into one of those classes.

The decision was made to apply the same restriction to all of a monk or paladin's levels, including level 1.

This means that a character cannot start as another class and multiclass into paladin or monk unless the paladin or monk order would allow that class

(from DM Munroe, August 2019)
frc.proboards.com/post/332333

[Warlord]

Mar 30, 2021 2:30:34 GMT -5 malclave said:

Mar 30, 2021 1:13:06 GMT -5 Warlord said:

I think players can elect to make a Fighter, that then becomes a paladin. I recall prior discussions of this and the memory is a bit hazy TBH.

When you choose to go paladin and go back to fighter, or another class, then that paladin /must/ be apart of an Order that allows for such. The "multiclass freely" clause as you were describing.

So if your PC goes paladin and chooses a god that does not have an order for any multiclassing at all ... you are "stuck" going paladin the whole way. If you decide to opt-out of paladin and go back to fighter, or any other class, while not being in an appropriate order - you cannot take paladin levels again. DMs even encourage this communication directly with them to help with any other perspectives.

Explaining it is kind of wordy but it makes sense.

Fighter + Paladin (roll on as paladin) = OK.
Fighter + Paladin + Roll back to fighter or Another Class = Maybe, depends on Order
Fighter + Paladin + Choose Another Class (No Order) or Back to Fighter (No Order) = Never take paladin again

I don't think that's correct, unless there's a more recent ruling I've missed. FRC interprets the "freely multiclassing" rule to apply to characters taking the first level of paladin or monk, so a character must have a valid order to multiclass into one of those classes.

The decision was made to apply the same restriction to all of a monk or paladin's levels, including level 1.

This means that a character cannot start as another class and multiclass into paladin or monk unless the paladin or monk order would allow that class

(from DM Munroe, August 2019)
frc.proboards.com/post/332333

Yes, this

#very tired atm