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Post by ManyAsOne on May 16, 2007 0:54:55 GMT -5
I'd just like to open up a discussion on what players think of their own rate of advancement here.
I've seen many players here only a few months reaching levels 16+, while others have been here several years only just reaching that point. I, myself, having been here for, lets see.. around two years, give or take, have no characters above level 15.
Now, I post this in Roleplay because I'm curious about who here sends more time roleplaying and who spends more time adventuring. There's no problem with either. Some players like to roleplay more than others...
... Still, I can't help but feel slightly unsettled. I feel that roleplaying takes a back seat to hack 'n' slash, action-style play with several players.
This is a free discussion to give your opinion on what you do with your time here. Maybe it will encourage you people prone to doing nothing but sitting in an inn all day, roleplaying counting cracks in the ceiling to get out and have fun (after all, this is D&D which revolves around adventuring) and maybe it will get some of you more action-proned players to slow down and smell the roses (again, this is D&D which revolves around immersing yourself in a fantasy world, your characters becoming more than just their stats, level, and loot).
So, have at it.
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Post by Quadhund/Greenhouse on May 16, 2007 1:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by mastersenge on May 16, 2007 2:46:17 GMT -5
I have some thoughts on this. One thing I've noticed is that people seem to make a big separation between RPing and going out and adventuring while its a little better if youre just RPing all the time whether out killing monsters or sitting in town chatting with folks. Doing the dungeon crawl thing it doesnt make alot of sense to be chatting it up while somethings trying to kill you but take it slow enough and theres plenty of time to talk or at least just act out your part as you go along. I just dont think that RPing means you just sit around and chat with people. That is a part of it but if you say youre either RPing or exping then well thats just not how I see it. Some characters cant really sit around and just chat while others may be more likely to do just that.
Another thing is that it seems to be a bit hard to get involved with anything thats going on sometimes and that kind of leads to real boring conversations or just going out and getting exp. For evil characters sometimes it can be a bit harder to get involved with stories. Right now it seems if an evil character wants to get involved with anything its either the redmist thing or nothing. Ive tried to bring evil characters on a few DM events that really are a little ooc for them to even get involved with and it has always turned out to be a bit bad for them.
Well what I was getting at before the rampling was that .. hmm I'm not even sure now other than to say that RP shouldnt be just when sitting around chatting in a town and that getting actually involved with some sort of story makes it easier to stay IC all the time and to RP no matter what the character is doing.
As far as rate of advancement it kinda depends on how often you play and what kind of stuff your character likes to do. I have one character thats real chatty but a pious pally that only goes out if theres a reason and then is real picky about who he goes out with so he doesnt lvl up very often at all. Then I have another that is always willing to do whatever he can to get gold or sometimes just to be able to kill something just for the sake of killing and he lvls up a bit quicker than the other. Sometimes it seems like one of them is lvling really fast but actually its just that I spend an insane amoung of hours a week online so as far as per month exp its real fast but per hour its about the same as anyone i think. Ok I'm sure there was some point I wanted to make and didnt make it but for now im really done rambling on this one haha.
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Post by gathera on May 16, 2007 3:58:25 GMT -5
I rather like the rate of advancement that I have found on the server. Have I noticed others advance in levels past me quickly, yup. However they likely do more adventuring than I do. I would guess that I fall right in the middle of things. I have been on the server for about two years as well and I play likely far too much lol. I have two characters at 16th so I guess that makes me twice as hack n slash as MaO heh. For me it is a matter of time, the character and my mood. I enjoy a good conversation and have often whiled away time just talking. One of my characters is probably quite infamous for doing just that. Do I hang around town just standing or sitting there. Nope not too often unless I can engage someone in conversation I will wander off. I do give it a chance first. Low attention span I guess heh. Anyway my take for what it is worth.
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Post by Teneas on May 16, 2007 6:38:08 GMT -5
I used to play on a server that was to "real". Everyone had fits bout something not being real. Here however is a good blend. This is after all a fantasy game. Rping and killing to me go hand in hand. Not to say that you should just kill stuff constantly and not rp at all. I try to rp all the time, especially when killing stuff, but is not easy. I have moments where for hours is just nothing but rp. And other moments of nothing but killing stuff. Everyone is guilty of the whole..."I got 2k xp left, lets go kill big stuff".....sad, but true. Just did that yesterday as a matter of fact. DMs please no smiting. Am going to focus a bit more on the rping that I want to do to achieve something for Ten that he wants. Still going to kill stuff as well though. And yeah I have only been here since Dec. '06, and have a level 15 char. It is hard to not level when everyone you travel with or rp with is leveling. Just my two cents.
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Post by Thrym on May 16, 2007 8:22:48 GMT -5
Well, Zae pretty much doesn't level at all anymore. Took me a year to get him to level 17, but then I tend to sit around in town most of the time I am online. He usually only leaves town and joins some big adventure on the weekend, mostly because I don't have time under the week for big trips. Since january, Zae had one level up, and he's not even halfway to the next again, despite me playing daily. To be honest, I don't have much motivation to level up a level 18 wizard anymore though, not like he'll get much stronger anytime soon. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Sometimes it does make you feel a bit sad though that people that are here for a few months suddenly are as mighty mages as you, but eh... that's my own fault for sitting around in town to much. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) On the topic of RP xp though... I was wondering, I did hear of some people about getting hundreds of RP xp a day, while I get a hundred a week if I'm lucky. I assume this is because of my 'normal, european sleeping pattern', but I was just wondering if other people that usually play at european hours have experienced that, too.
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Post by shanara on May 16, 2007 8:40:15 GMT -5
I experience the same thing, Thrym and I'm in the Eastern US. I have been getting more XP lately for rp but not hundreds a day. And the xp has come only within the last month. I very rarely got xp for the rp I did. Not complaining, because I'm not here for fast leveling or tons of gold. I'm here for the interaction with players.
I don't have a character above 10 on this server, but I also don't go hunting as much as I could I guess. I'm also not on as much as some of the others in Tia's group either which is part of the reason she's still at 7 while they've reached 10.
But then I don't play to level, I play for the immersion and to get away from RL for a while. It's why I'm a heavy rper. Even when I'm alone, I rp with my character. Tia talks to herself a lot. ;D But it's what I enjoy.
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Post by littlelotte on May 16, 2007 8:42:43 GMT -5
Ive been since the end of October of 2006 and my main character Lunitari is as of yesterday a level 20. And trust me, it was not smooth sailings getting there there. I will admit that there are occasional days where I feel like she needs to just get out there and kill things, but I always have an RP reason for doing so. Its not just to go out and "level" because really...what does she know about leveling?
There are certains days where I will not even take her out adventuring because the RP is more important, and trust me...its not easy standing in town for hours trying to hold a conversation when you make sure to play your character according to their stats, and with Luna being a barbarian...you can imagine that they are pretty low.
But when I do take her out adventuring, I RP the entire time. I personally think thats what makes adventuring fun. Being able to talk with your party. If you think about it in a RL perspective, would you travel with these people for days/weeks/months without ever saying one word to them? *shakes head* No I dont think so. So I try to make sure Luna is speaking with her party as often as her personality allows her to.
There, that is my two cents. *nods*
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Post by Kharn597 on May 16, 2007 9:53:14 GMT -5
I think some of it has to do with time commitment. I know I go through periods where I have too much school or RA work to do much. Other times I want to play something simpler like Battlefield 2 or Command and Conqueror Decade collection. I also have a tendency to get into long rp conversation or activities on the server when I could be going out. Like capturing a prisoner the other night, spying and talking to mages last night, defending isenhold, or researching magic which she sometimes get xp but not that often. I have noticed in the past month xp bonuses for rp improving when I do go out and I try to get some RP involved into it at least for myself. So my character normally starts collecting samples or speaks of possible magic she might gain for her research. She has a tendency to prefer crypts though due to her main research.
Funny cause I know back in November, Lilith was higher level then the rest of the group when she was still a level 10 priestess I had for awhile. Then she hit a block at level 14 in January that took till March and then lately still working on 16. Tenchi got to level 16 way back and then went down to 10 then back to 14. Currently Lilith is my highest level character and I started on the server November my freshmen year of college and now just finished up my junior year. I have seen many characters she has worked for with awhile surpass her by up to 5 levels.
Question is how to gain experience through rp, especially for characters who wouldn’t be emphasizing on destroy things but research and study. Like right now Lilith is researching a spell, she’s going to different places for components and scrolls that might aid. How would one stand around researching that for awhile though. Lilith wants to gain access to the spell as soon as possible to save her close friend as well as many of her colleagues and friends wish to see her gain access to the spell.
Sometimes the groups I am out with do rp. Other times there is no talking because it slows the whole group.
I remember though the DMs, some of them still here, back during my freshmen year would do a lot of 1 time quest, especially to help the new people on the server which helped me I learn to rp better. Like I remember one time did something with a kobold asking for help and we went around helping him around Isenhold. It was for level 5 players and lower and they would announce those quest.
Overall I think its time commitment. The main times I notice people have surpassed me is because they seem to be on a lot. I also choose to at times to rp over heading out to a crypt, and some people have been out with me when I do this before. Not sure what to say. That’s my thoughts, not trying to pick on anyone or insult anyone.
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Post by Aodhan the Unusual on May 16, 2007 9:59:09 GMT -5
I've been on the server a good 2+ years now and Tori's level 18. Last time she leveled was a good few months ago and that was mainly off of RP xp. The way she was built was mostly purely for RP purposes. Like I describe her to some people, she's like a wizard with a little bit better armor and no spells. However lately I can't RP her the way she was intended because of one thing or another. So why don't I go out and kill stuff to pass the time? Because Tori can't solo and no one invites her anywhere. Sad? *shrugs* That's the way the RP falls. As frustrating as it can be at times, I wouldn't change the way things have happened.
One thing I would like to point out though is this: Don't force or change your character and their behavior towards someone because you feel bad for them. Like I explained to someone else who wanted to do this so Tori could travel with them, it's just not right. It forces me as a player into an awkward situation and makes RP with that person or group feel forced. Do things natural. If you and Bob are worst enemies, but through RP something happens and you become best friends, awesome. But if you tell Bob OOC that you want to help because you feel bad he's all alone, it's just wrong.
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Post by mourndarkv on May 16, 2007 10:15:55 GMT -5
I spend 99% of my time RPing for one reason or another. Be it lack of grouping ability for the day (I detest soloing). Even when hunting, I am RPing. Not that my character rattle on like ninny's in dangerous scenarios, but even those bring with it a certain amount of chatter.
Now, much of my time is spent in Inn, or outside RP banter. Getting caught up on the who's and whats of whatever is going on in Redmist, or Munroe's Vampire plot. And like many others have stated, I do not RP for the xp, but I personally have rarely gotten any at all. Here and there, maybe once a month it seems.
As far as character advancement. I personally find leveling, be it from hunting or otherwise a little frustrating on FRC. I always have though, so this is kind of a dead horse. I get bored easily, so.. killing the same bunch of monsters, or clearing the Kobolds lair for the 150th time holds little interest for me. I have noticed a decrease in mid level places to hunt though recently. The Orgrillons are gone, and it seems all the mid-level dungeons are in Redmist. (Which, being an occupied city isn't always prudent for those few "good" character out there who do not wish to be caught, molested.. or otherwise tortured by resident villainy. ;D)It had been my hope that with FRC2 on the horizon perhaps some of the XP caping would be loosened a bit. After almost 2 years here my highest Lv Character is a 9th Level Paladin, and I felt like I was pulling teeth to get there. (This is my fault to some extent however, because I do play 3 characters off and on, and have more then a few alts for those really boring days. Lol.) I can readily identify with MaO's frustration at seeing so many characters fly on by. How you all do it is beyond me, but I am amazed at your knowledge of the game and/or patients. Lol
Anyway! The bottom line is what keeps me on FRC, despite my character advancement issues is the RP. I love the community. The interaction with all these great, colorful characters. The server has a sense of life to it that few others I have played on have. Thats what keeps me coming back. And will most likely keep me here till the server closes.
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Post by mourndarkv on May 16, 2007 10:26:54 GMT -5
Hear hear! Well Said Yulena. It seems you've said it better then I could. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by shanara on May 16, 2007 10:33:53 GMT -5
Very well said. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by TermaForever on May 16, 2007 11:16:28 GMT -5
Sure what she said....what did she say? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Actually I do get what you are saying. I have always been a slow player (not just here but elsewhere). It is a bit rough when the people you travle with end up six levels above you (taking a month off doesn't help). Part of it is just sometimes there is no one around to talk to so you might as well go out and kill things. Unfortunately there is a limited number of places a level 11 fighter can go out to by temselves and get xp and frankly...it just gets dull and repetive after awhile. Still I can't complain too much...I mean last night I got 100 xp for helping a guy cure a disease. Adelius is slowly transitioning into a less adventure more...I don't know...librarian type. On a side note we need a library.
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Post by Panros on May 16, 2007 11:22:50 GMT -5
I joined the server as Torgeir in May, 2006 when FRC was still locked in its own personal community, not all that open to the public as it is now. As Torgeir, and out of the 20 player max with 15 on making a helluva lag, I was "The New Player." I had more than my share of power gaming and metagaming branding tells sent my way when I got Torgeir to level 13 in less than two to three months. I feel the reason he leveled so quickly was that I just never ended up dying. I would adventure as much as the next person and I RPed all of the time on adventure or off it. I also think time was an important factor in the hasty leveling. I was out of classes and I only worked a few days a week, so that though I went out on adventurers at the pace of the next guy, I allotted more of them in one week than other players.
I can see how getting to level 13 in two to three months may be looked upon as power leveling by some. Though... I've seen players jump many levels higher in the same time period as of late. I am not irritated that they have the free time to do so, as was the case for me. Though when I would send tells to people and they would tell me they were at a place... the same place they were last time I sent them a tell that day, the same place they were yesterday and the day before that, I feel as if they are focused more on leveling than on RP, despite how much they RP on adventures.
I believe the main part in this "rush" to level has been the increased amount of PvP lately along with the feeling to be the strongest, and the noticing of DM interaction among higher level players though this is a misconception I believe, because the DM's are interacting with veteran players who through time spent on the server are higher levels... for the most part.
Even before my laptop broke down many of Torgeirs friends, enemies, friends turned enemies, and enemies turned friends surpassed Torgeir in level, making it to 19, 20, and 21.
I certainly noticed a rushed to level, and frankly, I think the people who are doing this need to sit back and RP a lot more and ease up on the adventuring.
Torgeir is a barbarian, battle is in his blood. Even I sedate him enough to RP in a town for a few RL hours from time to time.
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Post by megascorpion on May 16, 2007 11:43:40 GMT -5
Well, I am pretty high lvl, and havent been here a year yet, though I think thats more becouse I used to do nothing but play on FRC all day, and still play it lots.. I don't go out adventuring much, and get irritated at myself for getting irritated when I hear/see people going out to kill stuff, coming back only to gather up a new party and go kill stuff again. But usualy think it's me being grumpy ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) And we are adventurers, well most of us. As I am involved in a lot of pvp, it is extra scary to have people zoom up to lvl 15 in a month, then, as Thrym said, thats probably more my fault for sitting around in town all the time ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) And has been hard finding RP at some hours lately due to ehm, most people wanting my char dead. But as with Tori, I really don't like soloing, I most probably can but meh, and usualy real hard to find somebody to go with. Have goten a few Bob tells that I should come in disguise and party with whoever, but yes, that would just be wrong, so turned them down.. I always RP wherever I go, sometimes when I can't find nobody on to RP with I just sit alone RPing a little then go windowed mode and do something else until somebody comes around for me to RP with. RP xp though feels more random then anything, as I always RP, unless something really special or big happened, like a DM event, it just comes randomly, always happy to see a few drop in of course ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Some weeks i get hundreds and sometimes nothing. And I know this post is more rambling then anything, and as Maston said I probably had a point I wanted to make but didnt ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Artemisa on May 16, 2007 12:05:01 GMT -5
Pweh. I have -just- enough cents to make a comment about this.
It'll be a short one. Keep in mind folks that PvM (Player versus Monster) is also an IC act. It's a big, big part of the process of our characters in this roleplaying game.
Small example:
I have two main characters here on this server after I started to play here again around December last year. My first one, Esmeralda, is still on level 7. She is more likely to be found sitting around an inn with someone than being on the road. Solely because that is how she is as a person, a character.
And then there's Nimras'elen. I rolled her up her not overly long ago and she leveled pretty fast (fantastically fast for me to be!) to level 8. Why? Because she has a serious problem with sitting still and has a NEED to get out and do something. Not to mention an inhuman (or should it be in elven?) lust for coins and mischief.
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Post by Quadhund/Greenhouse on May 16, 2007 12:17:21 GMT -5
At this point I would like to add something.
Remaining IC and RPing are not necessarily the same thing. RPing is far more involved than just saying "Oh here comes an ogre" or "Man my shield are is sore." RPing implies some sort of character development.
As I have told a player before, a lot of it is just how much time a player spends online. Some people can play only an hour or two a day, others play eight. But for those that can play 8 hours a day, do you ever get bored? When you are bored, what is your solution? Do you log off, or do you continue to play the same pc? As a DM, I now understand how silly a player looks when you know they are somewhere just for the xp. And yes we can tell. How many times have you done the espar quests? How many times have you done the dhedluk quests? Or the Hullack ones? Or been to redmist crypts? Or skullcrag? Just a few things you should ask yourself. Now how many times have you been out to castle crag? Once? Just to see it and not much more because there is nothing to do out there?
I'm not saying that you cannot do these things. It certainly isnt illegal to do a quest more than once (so long as it isnt farming). But just ask yourself these questions when you play.
Personally, I have gained 8 levels since March of '05 gaining the equivalent of 156,000 xp. Comparatively, this is like a level 1 player going to level 18. I play about 2-3 hours a day. And getting to this point, I am sure I looked silly to more than one dm.
I will also add that if you are bored and adventure thus because there is no dms on, i will just say try creating your own character plot. That is what I really am disheartened about the community recently is their focus more on waiting for DM interaction instead of driving the world themselves. Course, I'm old school and played in a time where not a single DM would log on in a day (back in the summer of 05 when 1.66 patch came out and lag was really bad and the great exodus happened) so we had to make our own fun.
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Post by sneakingyoda on May 16, 2007 13:09:34 GMT -5
On a side note we need a library. (*dashes in, not to steal the thread but says.*) OY! Temple of Oghma! Arabel! Go check it out. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) *coverts* *looks side to side.* *runs away* No seriously- if you need to find a library, find Yulena. For. Real. =D
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Post by sneakingyoda on May 16, 2007 13:24:05 GMT -5
But I do want to make a point... keep in mind do we see everything these other characters do to know they -dont- deserve it the XP or gifts? I mean really how do any of us know they didnt earn what was gifted? We dont, only the DMs do.... I suggest people stop worrying so much about what everyone else gets and just RP. (*snip some bits*) In the end no matter how much I may -feel- I deserve this or that... I go back and enjoy the RP with those around me whether or not the DMs recognize it, thats what makes this place fun. Just wanted to say real quick that I honestly don't think people don't earn the items they receive. That wasn't my intention.
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Post by Grozer on May 16, 2007 13:38:04 GMT -5
But I do want to make a point... keep in mind do we see everything these other characters do to know they -dont- deserve it the XP or gifts? I mean really how do any of us know they didnt earn what was gifted? We dont, only the DMs do.... I suggest people stop worrying so much about what everyone else gets and just RP. (*snip some bits*) In the end no matter how much I may -feel- I deserve this or that... I go back and enjoy the RP with those around me whether or not the DMs recognize it, thats what makes this place fun. Just wanted to say real quick that I honestly don't think people don't earn the items they receive. That wasn't my intention. I know you didnt mean that, but I think its a point worth making. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Masterbard Alyster Darkharp on May 16, 2007 14:03:57 GMT -5
I have just one thing to say about this, people who have reached 15+ levels in a few weeks...I think you should seriously slow down and develop some character before reaching epic levels. There is nothing worse then a 20th level character with no personality.
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Post by DM Justicar - Creator of FRC on May 16, 2007 14:18:29 GMT -5
A couple of you who have posted say you haven't received rewards, but... rewards don't always come in the form of items. Sometimes they are DM supported organizations or special places in games. The DM's do try their best to recognize all players as equally as possible.
We have a mantra we question ourselves with on the DM team that we are trying to fulfill:
Is it fun? Is it fair? Will it give the player an unfair advantage?
Anything we give out isn't meant to be unbalancing to the rest of the player base in any way. Mostly we give a token of appreciation here and there for great role-playing when we see it. Most of the time I think it is just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. Often DM's start quests randomly, meaning we will post our quest giver at a specific place and wait until a group travels along.
One point I would like to make is that role-playing should be it's own reward. Just because someone passes you in level doesn't mean the DM team regards them more highly than you. It usually just means they are a better farmer, which we don't prefer. Also, the DM's are in constant communication and just because you haven't been rewarded doesn't mean it's not "coming down the pipe".
I just wanted to chime in with these few ideas. Cheers!
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Post by moulinous on May 16, 2007 15:12:28 GMT -5
I am a bad rper. At one time i was even worse. I as intent on having a guild and doing this or that and becoming a epic and all that crap. Heck, i even posted how i was getting annoyed on how people were and are, flying by me like you would not believe. Now...well, now i do not care,lol. I take it as a personal challenge to figure out how to kill them in PvP even though i am lower. I even had a dm once help me with a plot that never got off the ground because some others were not interested in their PCs dying and losing the xp....now though, they would jump at the chance. Wolf is low level...though at one time, most of this server was and it was nice. He is steadily gaining and we are building our power base. Even Ranan has learned to respect us as well as Phelzaron and some other so called epics. Guldar is feared because you never know when or what he will do. PvP and rping and soloing and all that...it can all be done correctly if you just remember one thing, WWVD? What Would Vind Do? This freak became a legend and was never all that epic. He sat out in the Hullak and did nothing at times but just walk around...I know this cause i went out there a few times and saw him doing it. And this was when the Hullak was not so damn xp heavy. He would fish before there was fishing. He did all the major quest a few times here and there. He did reach epic but only after taking a third class that was rp induced even with the negative penalty to xp. Would some of you guys ever do that? Heck...that is a commitment to a character development. I am not a good rper but i strive to be one. I know that a few DMs have remarked on our group. Ranan even said he is having a blast with The Nine(our little group,lol). I know DMs sometimes just check it to watch us and that is a huge compliment to see what we are going to do next. Keep your levels...that makes me feel damn good when a dm says she watches us just for the show. If you want to out-level me fine...but sooner or later we will catch you...somehow...someway....and i guarantee that i will know exactly how my PC will react by that time...the question is, will you?
*this is not directed at anyone, i am just putting it out there as we all have evolved and are continuing to...maybe it will be that spark a farmer needs to become a rper....who knows.
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Post by ShadowCatJen on May 16, 2007 15:20:51 GMT -5
*opens her mouth for a long winded response, shuts her trap after Justi speaks*
You worded it far better then I was about to, boss.
Everything he said and then some. The DMs do note, and reward, those for roleplaying. It is time and place. DMs can't be on all the time and because of the playerbase size of the server, some good eggs do fall through the cracks. Don't worry, we do see folks that shoot up in levels and wonder what they are about. It's not such a good thing for them as we look at them with suspect eyes.
At the same time, we all have different ways we like to play. Some prefer to head out, while others prefer to sit and chat. To each his/her own. The main question always has to be: "Are you having fun? Is it at the expense of others?"
If that person is having fun with the way they are playing and is doing so fairly, who are we to say they are wrong? It's a game that's supposed to be fun for all. If you start to forget that, then it's time to put the game away.
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Post by TermaForever on May 16, 2007 15:25:47 GMT -5
I know for me personally, I'm not someone hellbent on powerleveling. I do however like to see my character develope both as a character and as a character (did that make any sense?). This is usually more obvious in early levels. I like to get my character up to around level 4 or 5 reasonably quickly because for me thats when the fun really begins. Thats the point when Isinhold kind of ceases to be a boundry. My character doesn't tend to miss everything 90% of the time anymore, I can survive a fireball, etc. Do I still rp during those early levels? Sure do. Do I concentrate on my rp more after those early levels. Honestly yeah I do. Call it a quirk in my personality.
Does it bother me that there are people who shoot up so quick? Sure it does. Playing from december to march I got Adelius to level 11. I know a lot of people consider that fast, but it sure aint level 16 in one month. That the equivalent of seeing someone to level 35 in two weeks on my old server (I saw that so many times it was pathetic...and we aren't going to get into the dm favortism there which is thankfully lacking here).
I had a point but i forgot what it was. I like rp...yeah I think that was it...oh but I also like killing things occasionally. And shiny things. I really like new shiny toys...thats why I like rpgs they have a lot of shinys.
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Post by DM Justicar - Creator of FRC on May 16, 2007 16:57:28 GMT -5
Does it bother me that there are people who shoot up so quick? Sure it does. I think we are all in the same boat on this. I will admit that the DM's have a special thread that tracks players that seem to be progressing too quickly. Believe me when I say we try to be on top of it. The only solution really would be like a role-play witch-hunt, and that is just too draconian for even the evil Justicar... What we try to do instead is reward players as previously discussed. One last piece of advice. Worry about yourself. I think everyone would be alot happier if they followed this simple rule. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by TermaForever on May 16, 2007 17:07:44 GMT -5
Sounds good. I'm gonna go play now.
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Post by Paragon on May 16, 2007 17:31:34 GMT -5
![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) Well, I don't want to say anything that's already been said, but I enjoy roleplaying, and I also enjoy adventuring. Most of the books that the game D&D are designed on are filled with adventuring. I can't imagine Conan, Bilbo or King Arthur sitting around in Isinhold smirking at one another and calling it "character development." King Arthur: you cant attack the zhents because they'll attack us back Bilbo: But, sir, they attack us every week anyway! Conan: *smirks at Bilbo* King Arthur: <insert some long winded diatribe that is essentially "if you attack the zhents they'll attack us back"> I love to roleplay, but I also have fun hitting stuff in a videogame. (..and no I wouldn't be happy doing it on a server where they speak no German, yet use the word "uber" all the time.) Why make roleplaying work? It's fun, whether you're a low level character, or a high one. Just as running around killing stuff gets old if there is no point to it, so too are long winded conversations about nothing! ...don't get me wrong, 98% of the time I'm content to talk to someone about nothing in particular, or even listen to someone else's mostly silly conversation about things with heady words and murky thought. Let people explore the module that had so much effort put into designing it without feeling the guilt that they're not spending enough face time with characters that hate their character's guts anyway. I think the DM's can and will reward who they will, but keep in mind that standing around talking about the meaning of 'evil' in a town that's on the verge of being overrun is sometimes bad roleplaying. (Sorry if I come off a little harsh, my verbage sometimes sounds that way, even if my meaning is gentle.) ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by megascorpion on May 16, 2007 18:49:47 GMT -5
err, now.. That King arthur sounds a whole lot like Vesh ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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