Manshin
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Post by Manshin on May 15, 2005 23:55:45 GMT -5
I dont know if I can or cannot do this, so if the DMs dont like it, they can feel free to delete it. I, Manshin, am hereby giving anyone who wishes permission to attack me at any time for any reason. The PVP rules are in place to protect those who do not wish to PVP, but I like the excitment of knowing that I am not going to get a formal warning before someone who doesnt like me desides to snuff me. Not that I am particularly into PVP or anything, I just like things to happen naturally. So, I guess you could call this my attempt at a sign up sheet for people who dont care to be warned for PVP
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Post by DM Richard (Retired) on May 16, 2005 0:13:16 GMT -5
I'm fine with this. Oh and Hashim "the sneak" Yoseff doesn't need warned either.
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Post by Quadhund/Greenhouse on May 16, 2005 0:31:03 GMT -5
I'll sign up too on a stipulation. Please turn on the hostile button before attacking, that way I can figure out the reason OOC why you might hate me IC.
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Post by Talus on May 16, 2005 0:39:49 GMT -5
I too will sign up for this. I like the feel of never knowing what's going to happen. It lends a realism that I like.
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racestark
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Post by racestark on May 16, 2005 0:46:13 GMT -5
I just hope Gusty and Sabremoe don't read this one, or the dozens of other people Ramar has ticked off, but sign me up. I was wondering this myself for a while. Asking a target's permission first would kind of defeated the purpose of trying to kill them. Not that there are any.
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Post by narayan on May 16, 2005 3:48:28 GMT -5
Im in too. I like things to happen naturally. But especially i love unpredictability, logging in not knowing what is going to happen... cool!
I suggest that we add our characters name here, because personally i recognize better the name of the characters than of the playersplaying them.
I play Gadush the Half-Orc.
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Post by Artemisa on May 16, 2005 5:03:28 GMT -5
I'm in.
But it doesn't mean I wont expect RP and being set to hostile is the playerlist before any attempt to kill any of my characters.
Ilmen'lindor Tathar & Nathe Coramillion
And let me just add that if anyone were to kill my characters and hide/chop up the corpse and feed it to the wolves - I will accept this as perma death.
-Arty
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Post by soulfien on May 16, 2005 8:43:29 GMT -5
everyone already knows I'm no pansy Sign me up!
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Post by Thrym on May 16, 2005 11:04:16 GMT -5
Well Jandor should face the consquences for what he does, so if you have a reason to attack him (which some people definitly have by now ), don't hesitate to attack.
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Post by DM Justicar - Creator of FRC on May 16, 2005 11:09:19 GMT -5
The general trend of thinking on part of the DM's is that there are many PvP situations that imply you have consented to no permission PvP... Consider things like "fighting words" and carrying cultic flags around town that will get you either A) attacked or B) lynched. We have also discussed dropping the permission thing altogether... it has never sat well with me anyhow. I am going to start a poll, and a *chickenwing*-storm
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Post by DM Justicar - Creator of FRC on May 16, 2005 11:16:15 GMT -5
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Post by Munroe on May 17, 2005 3:19:38 GMT -5
I voted in the poll but I'm going to go ahead and post here too. I personally always loathe permission-based PvP so I'm all for it. If you want to kill Lydia, she's certainly vulnerable. I dislike the hostile toggle too, but as a spellcaster, it only benefits me to throw it so I will. :-) If you're going to sneak attack me though, I don't request it be thrown and I prefer it not be so I'm really surprised.
Playername: Wolf Munroe Charactername: Lydia Rosewater
(And if you're wondering where Lydia has been, I'm actually on hiatus playing Guild Wars right now. Be back sooner than later, I'm sure.)
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trebarruna
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Post by trebarruna on May 17, 2005 3:57:19 GMT -5
*rubs her hands* I'm totally fine with this. At least so far all PvPs i had on the server were RPed very well, and not even once there was a tell As long as it is RPed, Annael doesnt need warning first.
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Post by TwistedVision on May 17, 2005 4:29:09 GMT -5
Yep count Clarise in as long as its RP'd. Not that anyone would want to hurt lil ol' me, surely? ;D
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Orkid
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Post by Orkid on May 23, 2005 13:08:48 GMT -5
i gotta say, this post warms my heart
I am in , if for no other reason than because i think everyone should do it, and id be a hypocrit to say , i want to be able to attack someone when my character wants , but not let others do it to me. but plz just click that hostile button before hand and i will extend the same courtesy. This is clutch for assassains and the like , and i think its more RP-like. Just so long as no one out there is gonna take this as an excuse to make some psycho/serial killer PVP character....
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henny
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Post by henny on Sept 30, 2005 17:21:55 GMT -5
Let me bump up this old thread from May.
I want to RP with people. I want to go on adventures with people. I want to die to PVP only after RPing. Not before. I want to have fun. I do not consider kill me first then RP over my dead (or KO'd body) to be fun. Thanks but no thanks. So I say this: I would request you ask me if I'm up for possible PVP. I have a new non evil PC who is not going to get involved in these guild wars. So please, Rp with me, or ignore me. Whichever. You know I saw the last person who attacked me well in advance and warned my companion. Did we buff out? No. Did we flee? No. Did we attack? No. I can't speak for Tenchi, but I was looking forward to some good RP. So please. In my case I say no. I'm not here to fight people. I'm here to RP and have fun.
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Manshin
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Post by Manshin on Sept 30, 2005 17:32:30 GMT -5
What can I say Henny. You were in the wrong place with the wrong people. Naturally, I always RP heavily before it comes to open war. You have to understand, the Banites and Manshin and his companions have been heavily engrossed in RP for a loooong time. This war is not a surprise to anyone. Marcus is hanging with people who IG have commited some pretty nasty crimes. I wont go into detail, but Manshin has plenty of reason to strike at any oppertunity to get his enemies. And vice versa. The banites have plenty of reason to strike Manshin. If you hang with characters who have bitter enemies, then you also have enemies now. However, we dont greif each other. Last night was only the second battle they have fought against each other, though Manshin doesnt know about the first. RP is a given here. If you find yourself in a situation that doesnt seem right, remember, you are only seeing a single situation taken out of context. We are the core players of FRC, and all of us know how to RP and be responsible.
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henny
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Post by henny on Sept 30, 2005 18:49:20 GMT -5
I agree with you. I can see the whole picture now, thats why Marcus had to die. And I started a new PC. I don't want to be a part of the guild wars. Remember the old days when fistdantuilus would explain away newbie deaths as 'collateral damage' of his red dragon running through isinhold? Anyways, I'm not against you guys RPing and having fun anyway that you want and I'm definetly not saying how you guys should have fun, and most of all I am not mad at anyone AT ALL. I just have finally understood how things work in my guild, and since I have promised a few DM's to be a good and contributing Rper, that PVP and street fighting is in no way living up to my promise. Its me not you Manshin.. I'll always love you but its not meant to be.. uh wait this isn't a dear john letter is it? Maybe I got tied up in the moment ;D but seriously, I in no way want to say anyone did anything wrong, I just have been collecting info on how things work and now I have found the correct medium for contributing and I'm gonna be happy with it.
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Post by Kolfrosta on Sept 30, 2005 18:58:57 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, I think the last thing we need is any kind of guild war. But, in character, the hand has been forced. The Silver Shield cannot stand by while some maniacal Banite priestess is running around killing and torturing anyone she wants. This being said, it is a given that all the Banites are in support of this recent action. As such, every Banite known to Sharita will be toggled to dislike when she logs in if they are already on, or as they log in. It doesn't mean she is actively looking for them, but if they cross paths, she will not parlay...nor accept quarter. If they wish to be seen as animals, they will be treated as such.
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Post by soulfien on Oct 1, 2005 0:16:36 GMT -5
in case you haven't noticed, frc *IS* a guild war. That's why we have the Silver Shields, Banites, Cyrists, etc... Hell, just donning the Shields uniform makes you a target of random violence and then any retaliation gets you marked as a murderer by the courts... that's if the DM's don't intervene and come up with a way for the evil group to somehow escape. (which always happens- they break out of jail, mummies suddenly appear and attack the shield members, etc...)
FRC is way too militant.
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henny
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Post by henny on Oct 1, 2005 2:52:26 GMT -5
so soulfien, would you agree the best way to remove yourself from the PVP arena without putting away the NWN discs is to not join a guild? sounds good to me if you are.
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Post by soulfien on Oct 1, 2005 4:42:37 GMT -5
of course that's the best way to not be in a guild war
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Post by olwentheold on Oct 1, 2005 7:17:31 GMT -5
As such, every Banite known to Sharita will be toggled to dislike when she logs in if they are already on, or as they log in. It doesn't mean she is actively looking for them, but if they cross paths, she will not parlay...nor accept quarter. If they wish to be seen as animals, they will be treated as such. Here, here. I think they've definitely crossed the line here.
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Post by Grozer on Oct 1, 2005 8:02:10 GMT -5
As such, every Banite known to Sharita will be toggled to dislike when she logs in if they are already on, or as they log in. It doesn't mean she is actively looking for them, but if they cross paths, she will not parlay...nor accept quarter. If they wish to be seen as animals, they will be treated as such. Here, here. I think they've definitely crossed the line here. If you hunt and back an "animal" into a corner you can only expect one outcome, his claws will come out. How could you not expect a reaction if you send your assassins. The Sheilds righteous attitude to force their will upon all others initiated this conflict, we have only answered.
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Post by Grozer on Oct 1, 2005 9:13:25 GMT -5
guild wars happen darkness vs light etc thow maybe one needs to find other quests or things to rp doing .. ive had a bit of experence at guild wars and pvp it can spoil it for new pcs if the log in and theres a constant war in the streets.. just a thought from one whos been there*winks* you do get tired of killing the same pcs over and over kick back and enjoy rping other things..enemys need not kill on sight shar and my self had a respect of sorts knight to knight you could say. *signed* lord Rift .... may the darkness take thee What's up! Long time no see.. Anyway point taken and I really dont want guild wars unless it was a DM event, but when adventurers constantly hunt you, you cant sit back and let them. You have to defend yourself... May the Fear bind you heart!
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Post by Kolfrosta on Oct 1, 2005 11:20:56 GMT -5
Posted by Grozer on Today at 9:02
On the contrary, the Shields had not been very active against the Banites previous to Hrothgar's death, because they were seen as more nuisance than real threat and there were more important things to take care of. Are the Banites feared? Hardly.... However, the news of Hrothgar's torture and death, and the condition in which his remains were found, has finally pushed the Shield to action.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction....this is the reaction.
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henny
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Post by henny on Oct 1, 2005 11:29:53 GMT -5
Sounds like the dwarf got off light with his eternal torture. Good luck Banites! ~your gonna need it~
`oh and the stew said to tell you, "Glub"`
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Post by Grozer on Oct 1, 2005 11:40:45 GMT -5
Posted by Grozer on Today at 9:02 On the contrary, the Shields had not been very active against the Banites previous to Hrothgar's death, because they were seen as more nuisance than real threat Interesting comment even though it is nothing more than lies spread by a group in support of a Crown which is failing its people. Crom, Gariston and Jerico are not Sheilds then? After his will was broken, even Hroth admitted he was working with you, so I consider him a Sheild as well... not to mention your other allies who have come after us.
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Post by DM Grizwald on Oct 1, 2005 12:10:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure if im the one who should say this but i think were getting a little off topic........... ?
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Post by Kolfrosta on Oct 1, 2005 13:51:49 GMT -5
Heh..I guess we have.
This personal debate will have to be resolved elsewhere, but for now, to be a Banite or Silver Shield, is to be a target....
(Yeah, like that's a big change.....)
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