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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 11, 2005 15:37:14 GMT -5
Does this look like a drow to anyone? I mean not to be a perv but do the physical construction of the body say drow?
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Post by Keetena on Dec 11, 2005 15:45:50 GMT -5
Hmmm, this is very relative, considering the drow like their cousins are slender and thin in most, this doesn't means all are thin, we can even find fat ones... ok, everybody will say we all know this... another fact is, since the elves in faerun have the same stature as humans, I do think teh drow are a bit larger too than the normal (ok, this has nothing with the post). About be perv no worries, drow have nothing against nudity, to be true they use clothes and armor in most only for protection or to hide weapons and/or valuables... or in logical ways to hide imperfections. Anyway where you found this picture?
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 11, 2005 15:50:45 GMT -5
I found it on the NWNvault.
I back you up, most male drow are around 4'0 feet or around there, and drow females are around 5'0 but yes the armor thing is true also. Many drow male and female take pride in their bodies and wear clothes that show it off, clothes like this would not be uncommon in Mezoberranzan or any other drow city. just this female drow has more human look to her, and commonly drow women are born to have a little more of a muscular build of drow men. That way they have a easy time throwing them around like rag dolls.
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Post by StabbingNirvana on Dec 11, 2005 19:51:33 GMT -5
definitely drow. most elves are suppose to be happy and wear colorful, nature colors. black just ... goes against that ...
edit: not only that, but look at the background. theres an cavern column left of her
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Post by DM Justicar - Creator of FRC on Dec 11, 2005 20:31:19 GMT -5
I say drow as well. There are very few absolutes in this world, and I can only imagine Faerun is the same way. Just as people here (on earth) come in many shapes, colors and sizes, so would they in Faerun. There are so many variants within our racial characteristics here that I am positive it would be the same in Faerun. It would be narrow to assume it is not a universal aspect, even though we speak of an imaginary context. Homogenate values are of little consequence as a whole, for they are rare in nature in the broadest sense. ** Basically I am saying if she isn't *thin* enough to be a drow in your mind, she is in mine.
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Post by DM the Usurper on Dec 11, 2005 23:46:36 GMT -5
lol....that drow's got some junk in the trunk.
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Post by moulinous on Dec 12, 2005 0:36:39 GMT -5
think she would be interested in a dwarf? i mean, Guldar has been working out and unlike Kam, does bathe regularly. and has pretty good manners for a dwarf...
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Post by Grozer on Dec 12, 2005 14:23:17 GMT -5
Heh... looks like one of Ranan's exes. ;D
Seriously though she looks like a drow to me.
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Post by kenny26 on Dec 12, 2005 15:56:10 GMT -5
the only thing that struck me as odd about her was not her build, but her skin tone. the way i've read it, drow have pitch black skin and that looks like a shade of grey to me, though the artist taking a few freedoms about his picture is of course forgivable seeing how it gives more texture and debth to the picture. *discreetly saves a copy on the picture on his harddrive*
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 12, 2005 17:38:48 GMT -5
A drow's skin tone can very from layer to layer of the underdark. The underdark is made up of three key layers The Upperdark The Middledark And the Lowerdark Drow skin tones in the middledark are darker as they have had a little less exposure to light as I have read, drow on the upperdark tend to sport a lighter skin tone. in some cases just as in humans elbino drow can be born
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Post by kenny26 on Dec 12, 2005 18:38:25 GMT -5
yeah i have "the city of the spiderqueen" on my desk. it's a book containing a quest to find and kill a drow priestess who happens to be albino.
however i didn't know their skin tones could vary...
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Post by Munroe on Dec 12, 2005 21:33:14 GMT -5
I think she looks more Crinti than drow.
Crinti are the half-drow/half-human ruling class of Dambrath.
Being half-drow could account both for her complexion being ash rather than coal and for her more "voluptuous" assets.
How come all the good-looking women are evil?
On another server I have visited, one of the long-time players uses that image (or a smaller version) as a forum avatar. That player plays a drow female.
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Post by Keetena on Dec 12, 2005 22:40:41 GMT -5
yeah i have "the city of the spiderqueen" on my desk. it's a book containing a quest to find and kill a drow priestess who happens to be albino. however i didn't know their skin tones could vary... I do have this adventure too and bought the miniatures as well, passes as a prelude to the silence of Lolth, the albino drow is Irae T'saran, higher priest of Kiaransanlee - city of Maerymidria, don't DMed it yet, but it is very good And yes, drow skin tone varies a lot, and varies far more from artist to artist as well, from the coal black to the shiny obsidian or even brown, in some novels you'll see these differences as well - it seens like a half drow yes, but I don't think the artist wished this, well, let's talk a bit more of drow Origin: The drow (or dark elves) originated in the asgardian mithology (vikings) they were creatures opposed to the light elves, they hated light, elves and all the other races, their nature was pure evil, they lived in tunnels and very dark places, they were small creatures too. Curiosity: The marvel comics character Malekith, enemy of Thor, is a dark elf
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Post by marklar on Dec 13, 2005 3:40:15 GMT -5
How come all the good-looking women are evil? that's easy! all women are evil. i think it could be half drow too, but i'm no expert!
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Post by DM Grizwald on Dec 13, 2005 4:07:49 GMT -5
im going to agree with mark on this one
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Post by kenny26 on Dec 13, 2005 14:10:48 GMT -5
for those of you who say her body is too curvey to be a slender drow body, i say this: the drow women are bigger than the men, so the notion that the drow women are all skin and bones doesn't seem that right to me... not all drow have to be super skinny. i bet there are some chuppy drow out there too, hiding in the underdark too scared to show themselves to any surface dwellers, and thus the rumor that all drow are skinny...
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 13, 2005 15:12:53 GMT -5
That and training must help weight loss. from a a female dominated society Female Drow: "Get back in the kitchen this is no place for a man!" *Whip* *Whip* "And after your done scrubing the floor you can push around a large rock then kill things and after that give me a bath!" Male Drow: *Cries* "I'm so hungry"
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Post by Bobbertto on Dec 13, 2005 15:44:18 GMT -5
I think that would be a dream come true for feminists in our society. :)
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 13, 2005 16:23:48 GMT -5
True, but still I dont think it could hurt to let women have a shot at power, I want to see a woman as a president, i'm interested to see that. Since we men seem to take the power.
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Post by Keetena on Dec 13, 2005 16:52:30 GMT -5
for those of you who say her body is too curvey to be a slender drow body, i say this: the drow women are bigger than the men, so the notion that the drow women are all skin and bones doesn't seem that right to me... not all drow have to be super skinny. i bet there are some chuppy drow out there too, hiding in the underdark too scared to show themselves to any surface dwellers, and thus the rumor that all drow are skinny... in the specific case of Faerun we can add the fact the drow are always involved in civil war or minor conflicts, Lolth encourages this in an attempt to let only the strongest or more malicious to survive, of course this doens't mean a rule, cause of the chaotic nature of Loelthe, but adds too to the fact the drow are more strong than their counsins - like the society of the spartans in old greek, imperfections, weakers, deformeds were all killed, in drow society isn't different in this way too... The drow are like a magnum 44, as beautyfull as deadly
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 13, 2005 20:31:37 GMT -5
It's why I enjoyed playing male drow of vhaeraun sure he was good lookin' to women and that is what he used as his main way of getting what he wanted. but lose lips often ended in poison in your wine or food ;D Also vhaeraun split up the dull roleplay of doing whatever evil priestess of lolth told me to, all I had to do was steal and trick people and vahaeraun was happy
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Post by Keetena on Dec 13, 2005 21:55:39 GMT -5
The starlight and shadows trilogy 'duaghter of the drow' book details very well a vhaerunian village in surface, vhaeraun drow are very interesting, the personal conflict of a priest divided between Lolth and Vhareaun is very interesting as well as presented in this trilogy
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 14, 2005 16:29:10 GMT -5
Only that Vhareaun is the coolest drow god over it's my main reason to play male drow, to have a religios reason to steal, kill, and be on the surface
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Post by Keetena on Dec 14, 2005 21:06:06 GMT -5
Well... to live in surface Eilistraee is better, but lack your kill stuff =p
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 15, 2005 10:24:25 GMT -5
I have seen artist use drow of eilistraee in their pantings and it looks good, but to be honest most drow of eilistraee are big babies, my drow males of Vhaeraun were beat up and pushed around by priestess of lolth and given no love, but they dont cry about it. No they do what any other emotionaly disturbed person does, they do the same and take out their misplaced anger on athers. Last server I went on with drow of eilistraee was just made up of a large group of male drow who did nothing but cry and beg for happy hour, plus they were drizzt clones so I wanted to kill them ;D Look at that evil drow that is the reason there are half-drow, that and surface raids, but dispite their looks their at times over powering genetic need to be evil often ends surface relationships quickly i'm sure even drow of eilistraee's marrige to surafe races do not last long.
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 15, 2005 10:35:03 GMT -5
But in the picture this artist got the drow down really well his skin a curse to his kin from the elven pantheons king, but look at his stomach, i've looked at spiders before and large tarantulas and I have seen almost a dap of the bodies construct in him, almost as if you would expect him to have eight legs
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Post by kenny26 on Dec 15, 2005 14:30:22 GMT -5
that last picture is definately drow and the skin tone like you said is just right. he looks evil...
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Post by moulinous on Dec 15, 2005 14:50:31 GMT -5
Is that that damm Guldar in the back ground selling his wares to a *gasp*mind flayer? does he know no shame?!?
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 15, 2005 16:24:21 GMT -5
The drow you see in the picture has a lot of money to throw around, as you can see his hair looks well kept and a expensive looking helmet on his head also points that out, most drow nobles have a lot more money and their bodies show it, in a nut shell. The more attractive the drow the richer, but not to say other drow are ugly. As I have read even the street rabble are good lookin' ;D
But for a surfacer this is a good to know, if the drow has nice well kept done up hiar and holds a ere dark hauntingly beautiful appearance that means they are either noble or had a lot of money to throw around.
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Post by ♥Zach♥ on Dec 15, 2005 16:25:58 GMT -5
I will read my library on drow and find a dump truck load of information and post it on the lore of the land *Knocks over his shelf packed full of underdark knowledg, sits on the floor and starts reading a book*
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