Isinhold Rules...

[DM Richard (Retired)]

"Yes, but if i come up behind a person in an inn and walk up behind them, as soon as i equip the item, their first reaction is to don armor and draw weapons ... not even asking if the item is hidden or not."

Other than the *don armor* part it is a very reasonable reaction from them. They don't know that you aren't about to PvP them and they do see your dagger. NWN was not set up for a *hides weapon* skill.

My advice is whisper emote *weapon is hidden* before you equip it.

[Booze Hound]

yea this is what I was gonna say. When I have snuck up on some people to do like you are describing Quad, I often get right where I want to be, and send them a quick tell letting them know what is happening. such as
"hey, when you see me, I already have a knife to your throat. Then we can make a roll for something like getting away."

That way when I "appear" behind a toggled enemy, they don't go hammering me, cause usually, the PvP we like involves threats, and a LOT of RP. And often appearing behind someone with a dagger to their throat and a whisper in the ear gets the job done nicely.

but you know this of course

[Spooks]

First off... any sort of threat you've done to my characters involved just as much violence as it did involve RP... granted the RP would take hours... but still... *insert more rambling*

Secondly, Thank you Justi for defending the original topic.

LUthor isn't Human... he's a short, stout dwarf. If he straps it to his back, when he jogs by someone, it could clip them in the face (Being as it'd be about a foot over his head anyway). Luthor, when considered more realistically, has much more control over the pike in his hand, than the pike strapped to his back.

Also, I'm not asking to script in every guard, telling people to put the weapons away, (Though I've seen servers have the NPC's take the items if you didn't... jeez that sucked)
I'm just asking for a little edit on the one sign near the campfire... that's all.

And to whoever said something about how 'people should know that it's the rule, even if it's not posted'. Well Luthor can't read common, he know a good amount of the Human laws, but most of his traditions come from a secluded outpost in the Great Rift area. So no, ignorance isn't immunity. But I just want a final stance on it IC, Have aguard throw him in jail for a night. The only people who've told him to put his pike away, didn't have the authority to make such a demand. But as SOON as a purple dragon knight, or even a militia man, came up to him and told him he need's to put it away, he'll leave it with Kale, and grab it whenever he needs to go out.

[Booze Hound]

spooks said:

First off... any sort of threat you've done to my characters involved just as much violence as it did involve RP... granted the RP would take hours... but still... *insert more rambling*

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*snicker*

[catmage]

My character will normally yell at someone with a weapon that could be realistically stowed away, but my biggest issue is with people carrying around bows all over the place.
The way a bow works, if you leave it strung all the time, the tension would cause the wood to eventually snap, and quite possibly take your eye out when the thing tries to pull straight and thwacks your face.
I'm not sure about crossbows, but just carrying around your long or short bow allways strung is asking for trouble, if not from a legal stance, than from a practical one. You risk suddenly being blinded and weaponless when it snaps in the middle of archery practice against those orcs.

[Driderman]

Of course, as interesting it is to debate whether or not it is legal or stupid or whatnot to carry ones weapons around and for whatever more or less absurd reasons, the fact remains that putting your weapons in your inventory is a lot more ridiculous than carrying weapons in town, in most cases.
Where exactly does one put ones battleaxe and towershield or ones halberd? Sure as hell doesn't fit in any pocket and if that shield is strapped onto my back, why can't I see it?
I'd say that since Isinhold is in a state of perpetual threat, the militia might be a bit lenient in upholding the law as long as the people carrying weapons about haven't been noticed as troublemakers or somesuch

[DM Valkyrie]

Actually, it isn't the law that is up for debate, but rather the RP of where large weapons or shields are stored while in town. Generally, they would be strapped to one's back, and as far as weapons being out, any adventurer worth thier salt can draw a weapon at the moment is is needed. (The beauty of quick slots )

And for the arguement that it isn't possible to secure a weapon safely to one's back? I'm sure a good crafter, or dwarven fighter can rig a harness with a quick release so they can abide by the town rules and still not have to worry about thier weapon being in a state that it would injure anyone while it was stowed away...

Just a friendly suggestion...

[heimdall]

Well, your shield is not going to show up on your back even if you emote you strap it there. That's a game engine defect that your imagination will have to compensate for.

As far as axes and odd weapons go, I have a catalog that sells these along with the proper 'frogs' that allow you to carry them, whether it be from your belt or on your back...shouldn't be an issue really.

In this case I don't see that there is a debate on the legality of brandishing your weapons in town. It IS against the law...this is fact, not an issue in question.

You are of course free to debate and discuss the law with the guard when he arrests you for brandishing your weapon in the city limits. I'm sure he'll be amused by your theories.

However, the law remains the law. Obey it or be jailed and/or fined.

~ just my friendly suggestion ~

[Aodhan the Unusual]

I had forgotten this, but one of my fellow LARPers made a good point. In our LARP we have slightly over-sized foam weapons, and some of us do carry shields. Granted only a few have come up with ways to store them because even in a LARP, monsters arrive, you gotta be ready to bash. The longer pikes, staves, and the like are generally strapped at an angle across the back. Generally sticking no more than half an arm to an arm's length out from the body. And most people have the sense to get out of the way when they see it. As for the shields, there are many different ways to have them harnessed so that they're easy to 'drop and wear' in case of trouble or you could just wear your shield all the time and wear your arm out.

Anyhoo... This is just an example of how fellow PCs in a live action roleplaying group handle such problems.

[Driderman]

My suggestion has to be: Do like me. Put away your weapons and shields and stuff and pretend its not a huge gap in the 'reality' of the game.