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Post by malclave on Oct 6, 2020 3:51:01 GMT -5
To what extent are pre-3E Forgotten Realms materials considered canon for FRC? I understand that if there is a significant conflict that the 3E source takes precedence, but what about things that are mostly RP related? A couple of examples I'm particularly curious about:
1. In 1st and 2nd edition sources, the holy symbol of Lathander was a rose-colored disk, a lot simpler than what it is from FRCS and F&P. Would this symbol be usable by a Lathanderite on FRC?
2. 2nd edition lists a couple of aspects of Mielikki (under the name Khalreshaar) that is associated with the Seldarine (even if not actually a member). In one, she is a human serving Rillifane. In the other, she is a half-elf daughter of Hanali Celanil. Would worship of Khalreshaar (following all rules for Mielikki) be acceptable, giving elven or half-elven paladins a viable deity choice within the elven pantheon?
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Post by sightblinder on Oct 6, 2020 8:06:50 GMT -5
I support this.
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Post by DM Hawk on Oct 6, 2020 14:45:23 GMT -5
To what extent are pre-3E Forgotten Realms materials considered canon for FRC? I understand that if there is a significant conflict that the 3E source takes precedence, but what about things that are mostly RP related? A couple of examples I'm particularly curious about: This interpretation is generally correct. 3rd edition would hold sway if there's a conflict. 1st or 2nd Ed material can otherwise be considered fairly ok, depending on the source. Official FR source materials like the Forgotten Realms Campaign boxed set or Faiths and Avatars would have more sway than a Dragon Magazine publication or a stand alone Forgotten Realms adventure module. Also, the further you get from the publication date of the 3rd ed material the less weight another publication would have. The publishers make mistakes as well. I've seen conflicts between editions and within the same edition in the details. In light of the above, it's usually better to ask if something isn't provided for in 3rd edition material. For Lathander's Holy Symbol, there have been several deities who have had holy symbol changes between editions. To an extent, explanations are provided in the source materials where they describe how the holy symbols of some faiths have changed over time or varies between different regions (Ilmater and Bane come to mind). It's fair to say the old rosy disk of Lathander and the old silver disk / coin of Tymora were used in the past but fell out of style gradually in favor of the newer symbols we see in 3E. Relationships between deities, deity origins, etc. is a heavier question. The FR cosmology changed with 3rd edition. Go ahead and list the sources you're referring to and we'll review and consider as time permits. |
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Post by malclave on Oct 6, 2020 16:42:44 GMT -5
For the Lathander symbol, it's multiple 1st and 2nd Edition campaign settings and deity books. For that question, I wasn't sure if the 3rd edition sources retconned the old symbol so it was never in use, or if it had just changed. If it indeed is considered to have been an older symbol, Kimbera was considering carrying it in addition to the current symbol, as she works to renovate the old Lathander shrine in Cloudstone (which presumably would have used the older symbol).
For the references to Khalreshaar, they appear in the 2nd Edition FR sourcebook "Demihuman Deities" in the Elven Pantheon section.
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Post by DM Hawk on Oct 6, 2020 17:32:07 GMT -5
The holy symbol question was answered above.
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