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Post by shivers on Jul 18, 2020 10:31:01 GMT -5
Harpers Chosen Syndicate
in just over a year - i’ve not met a single person from these guilds. The people i spoke with had the same comment.
Are they up for grabs? is it time to clean house and get some new blood running these?
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Post by NHmikey on Jul 18, 2020 10:47:01 GMT -5
What makes you so certain you have not met players/characters from these guilds and just don’t know it?
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Post by AnvilX on Jul 18, 2020 10:58:10 GMT -5
Well… seeing as you are asking about 3 guilds that should be very secretive… I wouldn’t think they were doing their jobs very well if everyone was aware of them. Just saying…
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Post by shivers on Jul 18, 2020 11:01:38 GMT -5
nobody is recruiting and nobody that i’ve talked to has heard of them recruiting. are these inner circle only guilds? is contact only by forum? merely curious - Syndicate looked kinda cool. Get all “Soprano” or “Walter White”.
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Post by AnvilX on Jul 18, 2020 11:16:12 GMT -5
nobody is recruiting and nobody that i’ve talked to has heard of them recruiting. are these inner circle only guilds? is contact only by forum? merely curious - Syndicate looked kinda cool. Get all “Soprano” or “Walter White”. Once again… “Secretive” all guilds have their own way of recruiting…. BUT I would hazard the guess that the Secretive Ones do NOT let the character/player know that they are being viewed and watched or advertise for any type future recruitment… Just wouldn’t make sense…. Being secretive… and yea………. (OR they would just have to kill them if it did not work out JK )
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Post by Warlord on Jul 18, 2020 11:54:02 GMT -5
Join the Army
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Post by Asgardian Grey Hawk on Jul 18, 2020 12:20:37 GMT -5
I can assure you all three guilds are active and always watching
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Post by malclave on Jul 18, 2020 12:35:05 GMT -5
Yeah... big incentive... (he says sarcastically)
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Post by Warlord on Jul 18, 2020 13:16:23 GMT -5
Yeah... big incentive... (he says sarcastically) We got Purple Dragons, and I don't mean Barney!
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Post by winterglass on Jul 18, 2020 13:35:44 GMT -5
If you take a look at what's been going on lately, it's clear that someone at least ICly *thinks* the Syndicate are active, and has even named player character members that they think are part of it.
The Harpers...well, that's always the issue, isn't it? Who's a member of the international secret society? Hands up, anyone?
Chosen - who they? *shrug*
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Post by mandene on Jul 18, 2020 14:01:42 GMT -5
Rule no 1 of secrets (according to Ariean)
A secret is only a secret when only you know it. If you share it with even just one other person - count on that it's not a secret anymore.
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Post by Windhover on Jul 18, 2020 14:06:44 GMT -5
Ymra nogard elprup eht nioj
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Post by malclave on Jul 18, 2020 15:07:52 GMT -5
Yeah... big incentive... (he says sarcastically) We got Purple Dragons, and I don't mean Barney! If it's the Army... it's still getting up too early to work too hard for too long.
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Post by Raven Credale on Jul 18, 2020 18:39:12 GMT -5
Don't join the Gestapo (army), known fact they all take their jobs way to seriously. Y'all lose your sense of humor and fun with those uptight purples.
((Kidding ofcourse, play how ya want :]))
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Post by Dimitri on Jul 18, 2020 18:50:23 GMT -5
Join the Ironsworn. Get paid to fight, and hey, at least we have a dental plan. Can other guilds offer the same?
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Post by mandene on Jul 18, 2020 19:07:56 GMT -5
Join the Ironsworn. Get paid to fight, and hey, at least we have a dental plan. Can other guilds offer the same? By dental plan, you mean you guarantee the cool (?) semi-toothless look?
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Post by malclave on Jul 18, 2020 19:13:53 GMT -5
Join the Ironsworn. Get paid to fight, and hey, at least we have a dental plan. Can other guilds offer the same? I've said it before, I'll say it again... come to the Dwarf side, we have cookies. Manus bakes them fresh daily (even if he's not technically a member of the guild).
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Post by Dimitri on Jul 18, 2020 19:17:16 GMT -5
Bao does Dental work for all Ironsworn.
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Post by Warlord on Jul 18, 2020 19:18:21 GMT -5
Join the Ironsworn. Get paid to fight, and hey, at least we have a dental plan. Can other guilds offer the same? I've said it before, I'll say it again... come to the Dwarf side, we have cookies. Manus bakes them fresh daily (even if he's not technically a member of the guild). Yeah like, the Ironsworn gets paid for the same stuff adventurers do daily, so .. ever heard of a broke adventure? (only malclave and his pcs) The dwarfs drink beer and fart But -adventurers- that join the army? They can: adventure still, drink beer and fart, and be apart of one of Faerun's most prestigious armies known to civilizations history *drops mic*
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Post by NHmikey on Jul 18, 2020 19:22:51 GMT -5
Wardens don’t need a dental plan, elven teeth last forever! Join the Ironsworn. Get paid to fight, and hey, at least we have a dental plan. Can other guilds offer the same? I've said it before, I'll say it again... come to the Dwarf side, we have cookies. Manus bakes them fresh daily (even if he's not technically a member of the guild).
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Post by malclave on Jul 18, 2020 19:30:26 GMT -5
I've said it before, I'll say it again... come to the Dwarf side, we have cookies. Manus bakes them fresh daily (even if he's not technically a member of the guild). Yeah like, the Ironsworn gets paid for the same stuff adventurers do daily, so .. ever heard of a broke adventure? (only malclave and his pcs) Only Kimbera. And Vorin. And maybe Waldyn, it's too early to tell. My *dwarves* are doing okay (though I did wince at destroying an item for RP purposes that a vendor offered me 3K for). Be all you can be!
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Post by intrepid42 on Jul 18, 2020 20:21:39 GMT -5
Join the Ironsworn. Get paid to fight, and hey, at least we have a dental plan. Can other guilds offer the same? I've said it before, I'll say it again... come to the Dwarf side, we have cookies. Manus bakes them fresh daily (even if he's not technically a member of the guild). I can confirm that every Dwarf gets a free cookie!
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Post by Harpers Live and Die on Jul 19, 2020 7:02:01 GMT -5
Harpers exist on FRC.
Harpers watch for potential recruits. We watch potential recruits for a very long time and do not inform potential recruits that they're under observation so the observation doesn't impact on their behaviour. This often means potential recruits instead join other FRC guilds that recruit more openly, or the characters are retired before any direct contact is made. Despite this, the Harpers do gain new members.
Harpers guild is very secretive; if a character or their player appears unable to keep a secret, their inability to keep a secret will remove them from consideration. If a member of the Harpers guild reveals their status as a Harper to a character outside the guild, they are displaying extreme trust in that character, and the Harper's player is also trusting the other character's player to keep the secret. For example, the last time my character told someone they were a Harper was multiple years ago.
Part of the Harper ethos is that Harpers aren't heroic for glory. This means when a Harper does something of note, it probably won't be credited to the Harpers, and may not be credited to the character.
Certainly there are famous Harpers in Faerûn, but while they're off creating spectacles, other Harper agents are moving behind the scenes, getting work done. To belong to the Harpers guild on FRC is to be one of those Harpers.
Harpers exist on FRC.
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Post by Jollyjumper on Jul 19, 2020 10:27:30 GMT -5
The issue in here is that most guilds operate on certain timezones, being secretive as people have mentioned before. They open up if you happen to interact with them by chance. As you can see from the Harper response, they make you wait... alot. Same propably applies to many other guilds as well. I have never understood the point of this. Only hardcore players who play constantly numerous hours per day for years are given chance basicly. And even then your hoping your personality dont rub them in the wrong way. By that time most new players have given up already. Or atleast lost interest for the whole guild that maby excists. People take large hiatuses here that makes it even harder. If members of the guild that are responsible for seeking out recruits take such, your out of luck. What troubles me the most is that people seem to be proud how secretive they are. It sounds more to me like "haha, your not allowed to play with us". This mentality is big flaw in my eyes as it decreases rp, rather than creates more.
So that this wont be a rant only, heres a suggestion how to improve this situation to be more open for players. A player could check in the forum that which dm is responsible for a guild. As far as I am aware this is already a thing. Send him/her a private message telling that they seek to join this guild with X character. Dm responses that they have read the message and will observe this characters rp for Y amount of time. If they see character fitting for the guild, they create a small event where they push player to right direction / people.
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Post by mandene on Jul 19, 2020 12:09:08 GMT -5
There's a few things you need to understand about guilds.
Firstly, the guilds aren't run by the dms. They are ran by players. There are NPCs that the most guilds "obey", but that doesn't mean that NPC belongs to a specific DM. Whether these NPCs are played is up to the dms. It can't be expected from the dms that they are. However, it does and can happen, because the dms are nice guys.
Secondly. The guilds are creared and ran by players. It would be unfair to give the power to the dms over who, how, and why are to be joined. The guild members themselves decide over that. The dms only help out with events and storylines.
Thirdly. The players that run the guilds are dedicated to that guild. The obly reason a guild exists, is because there are players still running it - dms have nothing to do with it. Having a guild, and being member of one is a privilege, not a right. That level of dedication can ONLY come if you are willing to dedicate time and energy to it. Because of that, the guilds aren't looking for just anyone, they look for someone who can be as dedicated as they are - which means a character that is going to be played at least regularly (and no, iy doesn't have to be for hours every day of the week). You can't be casual about it. Most guilds aren't for casual players. If you can't see yourself dedicating time and energy and years to the guild, then the guild is niy for you. Finding fitting members takes time and energy, something that, unfortunately to many people, is wasted on those that care only to play their character for 3 months and move on. A guild storyline, like a he server storylines, take years to accomplish.
There is a guild directed towards more casual players, but those that run it are as dedicated as those that run the other guilds.
Also, you don't have to wait for a guild to approach you. You can always make your own. All you need is 5 players, a reason for it, and some gold.
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Post by mandene on Jul 19, 2020 12:35:17 GMT -5
Now, having that out of the way. I'm sure there are creative ways of joining one, even of you don't know the members, or don't think you know tje members. Without necessarily involving the dms.
I can think of at least 2 ways of getting in contact with the Harpers, or any other secret organization, without knowing the members.
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Post by Lady Frost on Jul 20, 2020 0:16:32 GMT -5
There's a few things you need to understand about guilds. Firstly, the guilds aren't run by the dms. They are ran by players. There are NPCs that the most guilds "obey", but that doesn't mean that NPC belongs to a specific DM. Whether these NPCs are played is up to the dms. It can't be expected from the dms that they are. However, it does and can happen, because the dms are nice guys. Secondly. The guilds are creared and ran by players. It would be unfair to give the power to the dms over who, how, and why are to be joined. The guild members themselves decide over that. The dms only help out with events and storylines. Thirdly. The players that run the guilds are dedicated to that guild. The obly reason a guild exists, is because there are players still running it - dms have nothing to do with it. Having a guild, and being member of one is a privilege, not a right. That level of dedication can ONLY come if you are willing to dedicate time and energy to it. Because of that, the guilds aren't looking for just anyone, they look for someone who can be as dedicated as they are - which means a character that is going to be played at least regularly (and no, iy doesn't have to be for hours every day of the week). You can't be casual about it. Most guilds aren't for casual players. If you can't see yourself dedicating time and energy and years to the guild, then the guild is niy for you. Finding fitting members takes time and energy, something that, unfortunately to many people, is wasted on those that care only to play their character for 3 months and move on. A guild storyline, like a he server storylines, take years to accomplish. There is a guild directed towards more casual players, but those that run it are as dedicated as those that run the other guilds. Also, you don't have to wait for a guild to approach you. You can always make your own. All you need is 5 players, a reason for it, and some gold. This 100%. I have spent more time than I can count on players who push hard to join then disappear as soon as any expectation is put on them to be proactive towards something. That said, I've disappeared on my guild members before too (currently since last Oct actually - though I support the guild through OOC means still), so I do understand breaks. But, many guilds have plots and hidden pieces so taking in just anyone and then having them stop playing to pick up another character is very disheartening. So, when guilds resort to only choosing established characters, or being picky in other ways, know that it's not simply to be cliquey. I think most guilds would love to have lots of active characters. My best advice for joining is what's been said above. Be active, and if you can't be /that/ active, play one character consistently. Guilds don't want to recruit someone who won't actually participate.
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Post by MTGPackFoils on Jul 20, 2020 5:40:31 GMT -5
Harpers Chosen Syndicate in just over a year - i’ve not met a single person from these guilds. The people i spoke with had the same comment. Are they up for grabs? is it time to clean house and get some new blood running these? Have you asked a DM about this outside of the forums (PMs, in game, etc)? For some the secretive nature of their guilds make it difficult to make recruitment posts. There are also Player Groups you can join, and many of those recruit.
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Post by Church of Bane on Jul 20, 2020 5:42:45 GMT -5
Harpers Chosen Syndicate in just over a year - i’ve not met a single person from these guilds. The people i spoke with had the same comment. Are they up for grabs? is it time to clean house and get some new blood running these? Have you asked a DM about this outside of the forums (PMs, in game, etc)? For some the secretive nature of their guilds make it difficult to make recruitment posts. There are also Player Groups you can join, and many of those recruit. The young Paladin here is correct. Many Players Groups are very active on the server. Including mine.
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Wylan
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Post by Wylan on Jul 20, 2020 6:46:37 GMT -5
The Bench is always recruiting!
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