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Post by Xzanos on Jan 2, 2020 15:23:06 GMT -5
So I don't want this to come off the wrong way, because I'm excited to be getting attention from DM's. But with that being said does anyone else walk around suspecting players to be DM's in disguise? Maybe its just because I'm new.. not really sure what the purpose of the post is just figured i would get my thoughts out.
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Post by davenutninja408 on Jan 2, 2020 15:31:48 GMT -5
They are there and always watching... that friendly halfling? Maybe dm, those elves over there? Yep them too. That angry tree calling down lightning definitely a dm. They are both nowhere and everywhere, bask in it, but always stay ic
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Post by mandene on Jan 2, 2020 15:58:48 GMT -5
The DMs are chosen from the playerbase.
And they continue to play here.
I've always preferred servers that are run that way.
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Post by shivers on Jan 2, 2020 16:40:42 GMT -5
i’m not a fan of the dm’s using different names than their toons.
it’s just a bit creepy.
xanos - just assume everyone you come across is a dm. you will quickly figure out which toons are dm’s.
welcome to the server!
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Post by NHmikey on Jan 2, 2020 16:50:15 GMT -5
If a player is following the rules it doesn’t matter at all if there are DMs playing their characters with or around them. Besides, it’s the DM standing right next to you unseen that you really have to worry about.
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Post by mandene on Jan 2, 2020 16:56:49 GMT -5
i’m not a fan of the dm’s using different names than their toons. it’s just a bit creepy. xanos - just assume everyone you come across is a dm. you will quickly figure out which toons are dm’s. welcome to the server! The dms use other names to be able to just enjoy the game as players when they are off duty, without being bothered for things or expected to switch into dm. And I really don't want think they bother to spy on you when they play. They're doing their own thing. Please, if you figure out the dms, give them the privacy they desire and don't spread it to your friends.
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Post by Xzanos on Jan 2, 2020 17:18:43 GMT -5
I try to stay IC as much as possible so its really not an issue of me being worried. Just curious if my suspicions might be true. I agree wholeheartedly that even if you suspect that someone is a DM you should respect their privacy.
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Post by malclave on Jan 2, 2020 17:41:09 GMT -5
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't someone out to get you for real... If you read the "DM Welcome" posts, they'll pretty much all talk about how a new DM is a longtime community member. I look at it as meaning the DMs are more in tune with the players, and not tied to some "vision" of how things should be that might be completely out of step with the player community.
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Post by Pithirendar on Jan 2, 2020 18:01:03 GMT -5
DMs don’t have ‘toons’
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Post by Sioladuil on Jan 2, 2020 18:34:48 GMT -5
Hey, if they are not wiping your party out, consider it a win and carry on my friend!
Can you smell that... There is Gold in the air.
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Post by Munroe on Jan 2, 2020 19:01:51 GMT -5
This does not mean that DMs don't play on FRC with player-characters (or PCs). The DM Team doesn't use of the term 'toon' to represent characters on FRC, and generally does not like to hear about characters being reduced to a designation of 'toon.' Some players and staff have a negative reaction to the term 'toon' as it often gets interpreted as devaluing roleplay characters. (This is not to say that no DM will ever use the word though, as DMs are still individuals, and the word's use is only discouraged.) I have no idea where this term comes from in relation to video game characters. It's never one that I've heard outside of its limited use on these forums.
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Post by bloodalchemist on Jan 2, 2020 19:10:44 GMT -5
This does not mean that DMs don't play on FRC with player-characters (or PCs). The DM Team doesn't use of the term 'toon' to represent characters on FRC, and generally does not like to hear about characters being reduced to a designation of 'toon.' Some players and staff have a negative reaction to the term 'toon' as it often gets interpreted as devaluing roleplay characters. (This is not to say that no DM will ever use the word though, as DMs are still individuals, and the word's use is only discouraged.) I have no idea where this term comes from in relation to video game characters. It's never one that I've heard outside of its limited use on these forums. Wow mostly I think, it's literally just another way of saying pc, especially for people whom have a lot of them, I use it myself to describe my own chars all the time, nothing negative
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 19:10:50 GMT -5
i’m not a fan of the dm’s using different names than their toons. it’s just a bit creepy. xanos - just assume everyone you come across is a dm. you will quickly figure out which toons are dm’s. welcome to the server! Not sure why you think it’s creepy. People from Players to Builders to DMs alike use different playernames all the time....
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Post by ShadowCatJen on Jan 2, 2020 19:28:27 GMT -5
i’m not a fan of the dm’s using different names than their toons. it’s just a bit creepy. xanos - just assume everyone you come across is a dm. you will quickly figure out which toons are dm’s. welcome to the server! The dms use other names to be able to just enjoy the game as players when they are off duty, without being bothered for things or expected to switch into dm. And I really don't want think they bother to spy on you when they play. They're doing their own thing. Please, if you figure out the dms, give them the privacy they desire and don't spread it to your friends. Back when I was a DM I made the horrendous mistake of keeping my screen name and DM name the same. On those days when I wasn't feeling up to being a DM and just wanted to relax playing, inevitably, I would get someone send me tell saying "Hey, Jen, no one answered me on the DM channel. Can you help me with (XYZ)?" As my character wasn't the sort to go dungeon delving on a normal basis I even got a "You're just sitting in the tavern by yourself anyway." (it was years ago and, no, I can't remember who it was exactly, but yes, rude) There was also the flip side where you're not certain if the player on the other end is being nice just because you're a DM. It's an uncomfortable feeling as you want to believe people are nice in general, but that seed of doubt is there and it's sometimes hard to fight. You end up becoming critical of others and that's not a good thing. So the best course of action is to not have your DM name match your player name. It's just easier all around. No "creep" factor involved and really more of a measure of sanity needed for the DM.
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Post by ShadowCatJen on Jan 2, 2020 19:30:08 GMT -5
This does not mean that DMs don't play on FRC with player-characters (or PCs). The DM Team doesn't use of the term 'toon' to represent characters on FRC, and generally does not like to hear about characters being reduced to a designation of 'toon.' Some players and staff have a negative reaction to the term 'toon' as it often gets interpreted as devaluing roleplay characters. (This is not to say that no DM will ever use the word though, as DMs are still individuals, and the word's use is only discouraged.) I have no idea where this term comes from in relation to video game characters. It's never one that I've heard outside of its limited use on these forums. You can point a finger at World of Warcraft for that one.
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Post by Dakarizon (Shroud) on Jan 2, 2020 20:15:13 GMT -5
That being said, I've been seeing a lot of neat little encounters in the last few weeks and I always try to throw out a "thanks" into the DM channel, sometimes I get a response sometimes not. I prefer it when DMs let you know who was doing it. I wouldn't want any DM to consider it a "thankless" job. DMs, don't be shy, let your DM name slip!
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Post by Warlord on Jan 2, 2020 23:48:48 GMT -5
Imma PvP all dem DM's
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Post by nemusator on Jan 3, 2020 1:44:57 GMT -5
I never care is a player a DM or not. Why does it matter? If I enjoy RP with someone I'm going to keep it up. If I don't, can't bond or whatever, I won't. If I don't like something or think something is wrong I'm going to talk it through. If I RP with a character, I'm focused on that character and the story unfolding. Also it is about RP right? So if you are RPing with a DM character and you have an IC argument, leading to PvP resulting in you killing the other character, if it is all RPed you won't get in trouble. My point is if you are not swearing and running all the time while carrying a smoking iron rod, branding people without their consent and asking them to sleep with you... You have no reason to be paranoid... If a DM is on character, he/she is there to RP. You should just continue staying IC and doing your normal stuff. If you start acting differently just because someone is a DM, that's metagaming. If you don't like something, act normally and talk it through civilly... Also, if a DM is on his/hers playing character, should at least not be bothered to hop in DM shoes and fix something or whatever and allowed to RP.
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Post by Runa Rothgar on Jan 3, 2020 7:04:59 GMT -5
This is the age old issue of NWN. We as players arrive in a server and try to establish ourselves because we know no one or very few. :3 DMs or players alike we don't know each other like PnP where sometimes we can see each other face to face at a table top. We ask ourselves who is this person Roleplaying with me? Who is this DM shoving scenes and conflict upon my character!? I am sure some players/DMs may have never played Tabletop an only played NWN, but the point is there is the unknown when one player joins a server to find themselves involved with another player or DM. - DM: Im going to hope/trust the player I do not know is a decent RPr /Courteous/engaging when I sprinkle ambiance/atmosphere upon them! - Player: I am going to hope/trust this DM/Player isn't going to be a chump and ruin my RP experience by being a chump/ boring/ or antagonizing in a way that doesn't represent how a DM/Player should act. We need to establish ourselves here with a little time and patience on a server. In terms of getting DM attention... Tips from my Experience playing anywhere on any Server of NWN : - Yes, a player can play who they want within Rules and how they want. Consequences are standard when one plays a character a certain way. The more harsh/solo minded (Not grinding) your character is, the more difficult to get that DM attention all the time. Less DMs more players. - Standing around is the wrong way to get DM attention. When I DM'd in the past (Never on FRC and don't plan on DMing anywhere - lack of time) I encouraged people to message me with thoughts of a current plot/story . Sometimes you can get lucky but.. if something is going on with a plot, find out what's going on , get your own character involved. This is how DMs know -you- are interested in the story/plot that they created. Remember, they created the story and want you involved, so show interest! - Regardless of your character's personality, if there are options you have for a certain event and DM is looking for options, GET OTHER PLAYERS INVOLVED. Again, this is a server with multiple players find a way to ask if other players want to get in on the action. You may have to get a little solo for a few minutes to get some plot progress done, but I am speaking of long term. Not saying a DM won't give your character an hour or two, but I always keep in the back of my head . "How can I get other players involved so more people can have fun with me." :3 I have actually rescheduled or canceled some DM attention because I could not get anyone involved. That's just me though. Lastly, this isn't absolute where we should never do anything by yourself, but just a consideration. Yes, we can't get everyone involved and sometimes characters clash. Runa has in the past been very blunt/rash/harsh/mega-snark to other characters. I actually considered that and decided to tone her down a bit because I didn't like the direction I was taking her, it was not the Runa I wanted her to be . (I am aiming her to being mildly - Blunt/rash/harsh/medium-snarkness ) . That's just a reminder to me and others that one can't expect their character to always fit into an event/situation if they are going to butt heads with other characters for RP reasons/conflict of interest etc. It happens and is a part of the experience. Just take it with a grain of salt. - since I am a player and not a DM, I can mention something xD. .. ..It can be very very difficult to engage with certain players and their characters if their character has a personality/ characteristics that do not have life in terms of creativity/luster/intrigue.. Now, with that! I did/do my very best to encourage the players to add spice if they desire help. I have had to be patient, because I know some players are new to the 'RP' realm as when I first started and needed encouragement. We all start from somewhere! Ask fellow players /DMs that you may enjoy RPn with, learn from them, ask some questions about their characters or how you can add some intrigue to your character. This will all help tremendously with helping DMs be more motivated. None of us here are getting PAID.. we just want to have fun and don't have to be some best selling author. I am no pro :3. I also understand some players choose not to be as enthusiastic with their writing/RP but it's the creativity of your character that counts. Don't have to be a fabulous writer to make your character fun and engaging, but it helps! I am still, to this day, inspired by many other players and how they play their characters, or how they write and engage with other characters. :3 We all want to showcase our characters for the most part. Trying to slowly peel away layers of intrigue and awe inspiring tidbits so that our fellow players can almost pinch them to wonder if they are real. Sometimes having fun, like Roleplaying, takes a bit of work and practice. I encourage everyone to never be lazy with your characters and always try to push yourself a bit more to make your character a bit more eye catching. You can't force people to enjoy your character and you are the one who is going to care about your character more than anyone else! <-- Especially gnomes. - Don't think because you play a gnome, you are going to get -extra- DM attention.. It's just an over-hyped fad.. cog suckers! Back to the Gardens with youuu all! *runs off to the library to assert dominance* ~ Runa the Oghmanyte - Slave Mistress of Gnomes and all that is Gond.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 9:58:36 GMT -5
So I don't want this to come off the wrong way, because I'm excited to be getting attention from DM's. But with that being said does anyone else walk around suspecting players to be DM's in disguise? Maybe its just because I'm new.. not really sure what the purpose of the post is just figured i would get my thoughts out. The first thought to get out is, 'What difference does it make? Why do you care if a PC is a DM or not? Would you act differently if you knew?'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 10:27:26 GMT -5
I’d annoy them with incessant cryptic references to potential backstory hooks. But I do that with everyone
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Post by Sioladuil on Jan 4, 2020 4:25:06 GMT -5
'MON THE DM'S!
VIVE LE REVOLUTION!
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Post by styxxbone1 on Jan 4, 2020 9:44:47 GMT -5
If your paranoid enough and smart enough. You will eventually find the secret quest for the quiver of DM slaying arrows... Use them wisely!
styxx
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Post by Dobian on Jan 4, 2020 11:52:56 GMT -5
Xzanos, mandene, shivers, NHmikey, davenutninja408, Warlord, Runa Rothgar, Shroud, Sioladuil, bloodalchemist, combatwombat, ShadowCatJen, Fox², Davice, nemusator, and styxxbone1 are all DMs. Now you know, so no need to be paranoid anymore.
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Post by Warlord on Jan 4, 2020 11:58:35 GMT -5
Pandora's jar has been opened!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 14:33:25 GMT -5
Xzanos, mandene, shivers, NHmikey, davenutninja408, Warlord, Runa Rothgar, Shroud, Sioladuil, bloodalchemist, combatwombat, ShadowCatJen, Fox², Davice, nemusator, and styxxbone1 are all DMs. Now you know, so no need to be paranoid anymore. Don’t put that evil on me
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Post by bloodalchemist on Jan 4, 2020 18:04:48 GMT -5
Xzanos, mandene, shivers, NHmikey, davenutninja408, Warlord, Runa Rothgar, Shroud, Sioladuil, bloodalchemist, combatwombat, ShadowCatJen, Fox², Davice, nemusator, and styxxbone1 are all DMs. Now you know, so no need to be paranoid anymore. Don’t put that evil on me lol
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Post by styxxbone1 on Jan 4, 2020 21:02:12 GMT -5
Xzanos, mandene, shivers, NHmikey, davenutninja408, Warlord, Runa Rothgar, Shroud, Sioladuil, bloodalchemist, combatwombat, ShadowCatJen, Fox², Davice, nemusator, and styxxbone1 are all DMs. Now you know, so no need to be paranoid anymore. You forgot Evil Hollance! He's just the WORST!!!... styxx
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Post by kasama on Jan 8, 2020 18:18:57 GMT -5
You can't force people to enjoy your character and you are the one who is going to care about your character more than anyone else! <-- Especially gnomes. - Don't think because you play a gnome, you are going to get -extra- DM attention.. It's just an over-hyped fad.. cog suckers! Back to the Gardens with youuu all! *runs off to the library to assert dominance* ~ Runa the Oghmanyte - Slave Mistress of Gnomes and all that is Gond. Careful know lest we strike from behind the tomaters
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Post by malclave on Jan 8, 2020 19:53:04 GMT -5
You can't force people to enjoy your character and you are the one who is going to care about your character more than anyone else! <-- Especially gnomes. - Don't think because you play a gnome, you are going to get -extra- DM attention.. It's just an over-hyped fad.. cog suckers! Back to the Gardens with youuu all! *runs off to the library to assert dominance* ~ Runa the Oghmanyte - Slave Mistress of Gnomes and all that is Gond. Careful know lest we strike from behind the tomaters *Uses gnomish ability to Speak With Burrowing Mammals to rally an army of hamsters to chew up all the romance novels in the kingdom*
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