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Post by Animayhem on May 12, 2018 20:32:19 GMT -5
I have what I feel is a decent gaming desktop. However some games when I run them "rev" my computer up or at least that is what it sounds like. Any ideas what that means?
Some times it stops and doesn't reoccur and other times continual like the fan is running.
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Post by Fluffy the Mad on May 12, 2018 20:53:27 GMT -5
That's because it likely 'is' the fan revving up. Many computers have variable-speed controllers on their fans that are linked to heat or CPU load, and they will speed up when the computer is going through a period of higher activity.
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Post by Animayhem on May 12, 2018 21:14:05 GMT -5
I see any way to prevent that or adjust? it does not happen to the majority of games I play.
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Post by Median on May 12, 2018 21:17:53 GMT -5
if your computer fans are speeding up during gaming that is more CPU or GPU intensive, that is normal. you can adjust it, but that could endanger your pc since heat is the enemy. if it is really bothersome there are lower decibel "quiet fans" or even sound reducing cases/foam.
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Post by Animayhem on May 12, 2018 21:29:20 GMT -5
I see I do not want to do long term damage.
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Post by Median on May 12, 2018 21:36:30 GMT -5
Easiest thing to try would be to just lower certain graphic settings that aren't important to you. Starting with resolution or locking framerate to something like 60fps, etc.
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Post by Animayhem on May 12, 2018 21:39:02 GMT -5
Ok thanks
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Post by erratic1 on May 13, 2018 15:31:38 GMT -5
There's a few options to watch system temps and fan speeds:
Software:
Your own motherboard should have settings showing exactly when your fans "rev up" or slow down, and depending on your Mobo BIOS, you can/cannot adjust those settings accordingly. However, you should always (usually unless the Mobo is a real cheap thing) have the ability to view current system temps, and how many (if any) case fans you have attached the the Mobo fan controller. This is only semi-useful, as while you're looking at the BIOS your system is hardly going to be under load. So You can get certain programs to monitor your system temps as well as fan speeds. This'll give you all the information you need as to what is happening when inside your system. HW Monitor or Speedfan are two programs that are simple to use but are great tools that can give you a much clearer picture.
Hardware:
I personally use a fan controller and set my PC fans with a touch-based HUD on the front of my case which is bloody fantastic I have to say but it's a PITA to install and configure as it turns the inside of your case into spagetti which you then need to properly cable manage or it makes your airflow worse. - You get the idea. I like this option as I can see in real time while I'm putting my system under load what the temps are inside my case and I can adjust the fans accordingly if I'm not happy with the temps. However, as I've stated this requires a lot of set up, and IMO best saved for when you're making a brand new PC box initially, however if you're willing to put the effort in, you get the best method (IMO) of control.
Just a final note, if you do decide to monitor your temps, don't get too scared if you see high numbers- if you have no baselines or red-line limits for temps for your own hardware then you have no idea if your system is at risk or not. If you want to delve deeper into heat management then this is always the first step to go before you can really reliably fine tune fan settings. However if you're unsure, it sounds like your PC is working as it should already- a noisy computer is always better than a computer that burns itself out.
Oh and a final final note- buy three or four cans of compressed air, and open up your PC case and clean inside it. (swap the cans every minute or so, they get bloody cold!) Dust build up can wreak mayhem and hardware-related murder to any of your components and you'll be amazed at how much smoother your PC will run if you clean out a pile of fluff, no joke.
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Post by Fluffy the Mad on May 13, 2018 16:22:02 GMT -5
If your computer is, as minimum, 1 year old and if you did not had this issue before, it looks like its cooling system became dirty and require cleaning. In case if you have notebook, it require maintenance in service center. But if you have desktop, you can try to open its case and look inside. If a lot of dust, you need to clean it. Usually I do it by hairdryer (warm have to be switched off) and vacuum cleaner. ...What? A hairdryer and vacuum cleaner? I do hope you're joking. A more proper answer would be isopropyl alcohol with q-tips/paper towels and compressed air. The alcohol is best for wiping out build-up that the air doesn't knock free, but you shouldn't have power running through the box while you clean. It should even be unplugged from the outlet, just to be safe. |
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Post by Animayhem on Sept 20, 2018 9:58:38 GMT -5
My computer fan is acting up again (I do plan to try and clean it) but now only when I play regular NWN. Aside from cleaning what should be done? adjust the cpu core number? roll back graphic drivers? I only used to have this happen with nwn ee. I can play other games just fine. Thanks
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Post by Animayhem on Sept 22, 2018 13:45:07 GMT -5
I may pay to have it cleaned due to my dust allergy I am not sure. I could do it in steps, I could wipe everything done with a lint free cloth and alcohol first then ;ater use compressed air.
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Post by Dobian on Sept 23, 2018 9:08:29 GMT -5
You might consider just replacing the cpu fan. Is it the cpu fan?
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Post by Animayhem on Sept 23, 2018 10:56:02 GMT -5
You might consider just replacing the cpu fan. Is it the cpu fan? I am uncertain at the moment. I will see once I clean it. It could be the graphic card also. So far it seems to act up with NWN original.
Thanks everyone for advice.
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Post by Animayhem on Sept 25, 2018 10:00:49 GMT -5
Well opened it up and cleaned. It wasn't extremely dusty but the fans did have a light coat of dust So we shall see if it still screams. So far it has not
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Post by Animayhem on Sept 25, 2018 17:08:35 GMT -5
Well opened it up and cleaned. It wasn't extremely dusty but the fans did have a light coat of dust So we shall see if it still screams. So far it has not Standard PC do not have serious cooling systems, because it is expensive. So, gap between silence and noise can be not very wide. Install monitoring tool to check what component is overheated. I think I already have something like. I will see how it reacts. |
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Post by Animayhem on Oct 9, 2018 21:00:50 GMT -5
My fan acted up sightly with nwn again some one said I should do this: Hm.. although you have .net framework 4.5, try installing 3.5 and 4.0 too is this risky I am running win 10
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Post by erratic1 on Oct 9, 2018 22:26:04 GMT -5
My fan acted up sightly with nwn again some one said I should do this: Hm.. although you have .net framework 4.5, try installing 3.5 and 4.0 too is this risky I am running win 10 This won't change anything on how your fans are running. If your fans are revving up, as I've stated previously, it's your computer working as it should- an increase in fan RPM to account for an increase in heat. Remember NWN is an old game and is definitely not optimised for modern hardware, so expect this sort of behaviour as normal with NWN and plan contingencies if you need to- an external fan next to your laptop or even a cooling pad. Old model laptops used to have the heat exhaust facing -down- so you couldn't sit them on your lap, therefore to do so you needed a cooling pad/plate before you could safely attempt this without choking out your laptop. Modern models don't usually have this issue though a cooling pad is still handy if you have heat management issues, external heat sources and ambient temperatures can and do effect system heat build up as well. All things to bear in mind if you're concerned about this still. Perhaps try and see if NWN EE causes these same issues. My hope is that EE allows for better compatability with modern hardware but as I haven't purchased a copy I'm afraid I can't give any feedback regarding that- perhaps someone else can mention if they've noticed any performance improvements/quirks with this newer version? |
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Post by Animayhem on Oct 9, 2018 22:57:47 GMT -5
My fan acted up sightly with nwn again some one said I should do this: Hm.. although you have .net framework 4.5, try installing 3.5 and 4.0 too is this risky I am running win 10 This won't change anything on how your fans are running. If your fans are revving up, as I've stated previously, it's your computer working as it should- an increase in fan RPM to account for an increase in heat. Remember NWN is an old game and is definitely not optimised for modern hardware, so expect this sort of behaviour as normal with NWN and plan contingencies if you need to- an external fan next to your laptop or even a cooling pad. Old model laptops used to have the heat exhaust facing -down- so you couldn't sit them on your lap, therefore to do so you needed a cooling pad/plate before you could safely attempt this without choking out your laptop. Modern models don't usually have this issue though a cooling pad is still handy if you have heat management issues, external heat sources and ambient temperatures can and do effect system heat build up as well. All things to bear in mind if you're concerned about this still. Perhaps try and see if NWN EE causes these same issues. My hope is that EE allows for better compatability with modern hardware but as I haven't purchased a copy I'm afraid I can't give any feedback regarding that- perhaps someone else can mention if they've noticed any performance improvements/quirks with this newer version? Thanks I am running it on a desk top
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Post by Alizarin Spion - Sleeper Agent on Oct 10, 2018 14:26:27 GMT -5
xD This is next level ideas, I've always wanted one and now I have an excuse to buy one. |
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Post by EDM Entori on Oct 11, 2018 15:31:17 GMT -5
Maybe, there is yet another thing to check. How energy effective your PC is? It can be checked by UPC statistic if it has some level of intelligence. As example for me: In idle mode (not sleep) and with monitor in standby mode my system consume 100W. When I play nwn1 legace, my system consume 200W. If your system eat more electricity, it is good reason to check it deeper. I'd like to check how much energy my comp consumes, is there a way to do this? its a custom built machine thats overclocked etc. |
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Post by Fluffy the Mad on Oct 11, 2018 20:51:37 GMT -5
I'd like to check how much energy my comp consumes, is there a way to do this? its a custom built machine thats overclocked etc. You'd need some third-party software, usually, unless your motherboard or other hardware came with monitoring programs. Several manufacturers maintain their own software for that depending on your build; I know at least AMD and Intel both have a suite. A commonly suggested program is called HWMonitor by CPUID, but I've never used it and don't know exactly how useful/trustworthy it is. |
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Post by EDM Entori on Oct 11, 2018 21:02:16 GMT -5
I'd like to check how much energy my comp consumes, is there a way to do this? its a custom built machine thats overclocked etc. You'd need some third-party software, usually, unless your motherboard or other hardware came with monitoring programs. Several manufacturers maintain their own software for that depending on your build; I know at least AMD and Intel both have a suite. A commonly suggested program is called HWMonitor by CPUID, but I've never used it and don't know exactly how useful/trustworthy it is. I've used it plenty, I've never ever had an issue with HWmonitor. had no idea it could track voltage use. |
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Post by Fluffy the Mad on Oct 11, 2018 21:12:39 GMT -5
You'd need some third-party software, usually, unless your motherboard or other hardware came with monitoring programs. Several manufacturers maintain their own software for that depending on your build; I know at least AMD and Intel both have a suite. A commonly suggested program is called HWMonitor by CPUID, but I've never used it and don't know exactly how useful/trustworthy it is. I've used it plenty, I've never ever had an issue with HWmonitor. had no idea it could track voltage use. Their website states that it does, but it may be a part of the 'pro' version that they sell. If that doesn't work, I believe Open Hardware Monitor was supposed to do voltages as well. It's open source and recommended in some other places- again, I've not used it to check it. |
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Post by Animayhem on Oct 12, 2018 9:58:31 GMT -5
I have diagnostic tool I may try again to see if any difference. I will also check the links provided.
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Post by Animayhem on Dec 17, 2018 13:04:31 GMT -5
Fan is starting to be annoying again.
I have heard there is a program Speed Fan which can help the fan run more efficiently.
Also I saw a recommendation to adjust the bios settings.
Thoughts on either?
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 13:18:57 GMT -5
There are some fans that are advertised as being quieter than others.
Something to think about anyways.
Also worth checking to see if all your case fans are clean and have a good access to airflow.
If one or more of your case fans is blocked then that could add to your cooling problem.
This can happen if your case is in a cubby that's part of your desk for instance, or if it's pushed up against the wall.
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Post by Animayhem on Dec 17, 2018 16:09:36 GMT -5
There are some fans that are advertised as being quieter than others. Something to think about anyways. Also worth checking to see if all your case fans are clean and have a good access to airflow. If one or more of your case fans is blocked then that could add to your cooling problem. This can happen if your case is in a cubby that's part of your desk for instance, or if it's pushed up against the wall. My computer is a desktop on a desk  |
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Post by Nicoen on Dec 17, 2018 17:59:32 GMT -5
There are some fans that are advertised as being quieter than others. Something to think about anyways. Also worth checking to see if all your case fans are clean and have a good access to airflow. If one or more of your case fans is blocked then that could add to your cooling problem. This can happen if your case is in a cubby that's part of your desk for instance, or if it's pushed up against the wall. My computer is a desktop on a desk Still needs to be cleaned. |
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Post by Animayhem on Dec 18, 2018 12:53:51 GMT -5
I do clean the computer. A friend recommended MSI Afterburner. I am trying it out and so far it seems to be working.
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Post by Animayhem on Dec 19, 2018 23:40:36 GMT -5
Ok maybe a fluke but had a weird glitch not sure if nwn related or not. Will post more if it is major.
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