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Post by BeneGesserit on Jan 30, 2016 0:42:50 GMT -5
Does FRC support / allow / encourage other strains of Dragon Disciple than the Bioware-standard Red?
Does FRC lore suggest / encourage that RDD characters must be / should be / are drawn towards the CE alignment inherent to their draconic ancestry?
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Post by Munroe on Jan 30, 2016 1:50:04 GMT -5
Does FRC support / allow / encourage other strains of Dragon Disciple than the Bioware-standard Red? Does FRC lore suggest / encourage that RDD characters must be / should be / are drawn towards the CE alignment inherent to their draconic ancestry? FRC allows all the standard fire-breathing dragon types of metallic and chromatic dragons from the Monster Manual 3.x without need for DM approval. (Though note and be aware of any multi-classing restrictions on other classes in a potential multi-class combo.) The three fire types in Monster Manual 3.x are red, gold, and brass. Only fire types are allowed. Wings can be adjusted accordingly. Other dragon disciple types are possible beyond red, gold, and brass, pending DM Team approval. All these types must also be fire types. A complete list of additional fire dragon types is not formally provided. Such applications for uncommon kinds rely in-part on player-based initiative to research any such additional types for which to seek approval. FRC's lore does not suggest or encourage that dragon disciples must be or should be drawn toward a Chaotic Evil alignment. While characters that pursue a dragon discipleship will tend to lean toward the alignment of the dragon type to which they are disciples, they are not required to share such a dragon's alignment. While less common, there are good red dragon disciples and evil gold dragon disciples. Perhaps it is their humanoid heredity that gives them such free will to make their own destinies, or perhaps they're not as closely tied to dragons of their wing-color as they like to imagine. While not directly your question, note that dragon disciples on FRC are never the immediate descendants of a dragon. They are characters that make use of their innate spellcasting capabilities (whether bardic or sorcerous) to awaken draconic powers and traits, perhaps buried in their bloodline for generations. Each potential dragon disciple character begins play as a standard (presumably above-average) specimen of his or her base race, from among the standard races allowed on FRC. These characters do not begin exhibiting draconic features or traits until they have begun pursuing the path of discipleship (by progressing in the class). Becoming a dragon disciple is a conscious decision, a coarse of action taken, not a foregone conclusion imposed on a character by heredity. |
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Post by BeneGesserit on Jan 30, 2016 6:39:48 GMT -5
What a useful answer, Munroe! Thanks much  Has FRC contemplated adding support for other dragon types than just Fire? Or is it thought to be not worth the effort of hacking into the class to give it some other breath weapon type? |
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Post by Extropy on Jan 30, 2016 10:19:43 GMT -5
It has been discussed but as it only impacts one prestige class, it is not at the top of the priotity list.
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Post by BeneGesserit on Feb 10, 2016 17:39:04 GMT -5
Would the DM team be sympathetic at all to a Dragon Disciple character asking to have wings just completely removed? No wings at all, of any color?
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Post by Orchid on Feb 11, 2016 0:28:02 GMT -5
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Post by Calliope on Feb 11, 2016 2:41:05 GMT -5
Would the DM team be sympathetic at all to a Dragon Disciple character asking to have wings just completely removed? No wings at all, of any color? If you put on a cloak the wings are covered and not visible at all. There are two versions of every craftable cloak appearance, Winged, and non-winged. If you want your wings to be visible with a cloak on use a winged version. Also if you don't want to wear a cloak but still want your wings covered than use a non-winged -invisible- cloak. All these things are possible by simply crafting the right cloak. Hope that helps ^_^ <3 -Calliope |
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Post by Munroe on Feb 11, 2016 14:34:43 GMT -5
Would the DM team be sympathetic at all to a Dragon Disciple character asking to have wings just completely removed? No wings at all, of any color? Having wings is an expected part of the class at a certain level. If your character progresses as a dragon disciple to the point that the character would have wings, the character has wings. You can hide them under a cloak if you want to keep them concealed. The only exception I could see would be if your dragon disciple were pre-approved as some exotic type of fire dragon that doesn't have wings. By that token, the dragon disciple also likely wouldn't develop wings. Also if you don't want to wear a cloak but still want your wings covered than use a non-winged -invisible- cloak. Invisible cloaks are not permitted on FRC. If you are seen with one, you will be asked to change its model to a visible model. You must have something visible to represent the cloak, whether it's a mantle, scarf, cloak, or hat. (I think Extropy re-enabled hats. They were initially disabled.) An invisible cloak may be used if you're wearing an outfit with a built-in cloak, as that cloak then represents the worn cloak. |
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Post by Calliope on Feb 11, 2016 17:43:36 GMT -5
Good to know!
I'll change my invisible cloak right away XD. (Just a non magical cloak I use to hide the scabbard on my back when I don't want it visible for RP reasons)
-Calliope
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Post by Aoi on Sept 3, 2016 1:54:38 GMT -5
Some posts here are a time ago. I heard different things from different sources. Some say, for the RDD you just need 10 Levels in other classes first. Some say you have to rp it out with a DM. Now i'm a bit confused. Don't worry, i rp a lot with it even if my character still needs 2 other levels. I played it out from the beginning when i started here. I wrote rp-postst to document the rp, too. What i need to know is: 1) When i have my 10 Levels in another class, can i choose the PrC by mayself? 2) Do i have to play it out with a DM or does it need to be approved by a DM? 3) Do i have to rp every level of the PrC out or is it enough once i have the first level? 4) If yes, does a DM have time in my timezone (cet) to observe it? I know, many dump questions. But i hope someone can help me, in best case a friendly DM, too. |
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Post by Munroe on Sept 3, 2016 2:20:31 GMT -5
Some posts here are a time ago. I heard different things from different sources. Some say, for the RDD you just need 10 Levels in other classes first. Some say you have to rp it out with a DM. Now i'm a bit confused. Don't worry, i rp a lot with it even if my character still needs 2 other levels. I played it out from the beginning when i started here. I wrote rp-postst to document the rp, too. What i need to know is: 1) When i have my 10 Levels in another class, can i choose the PrC by mayself? 2) Do i have to play it out with a DM or does it need to be approved by a DM? 3) Do i have to rp every level of the PrC out or is it enough once i have the first level? 4) If yes, does a DM have time in my timezone (cet) to observe it? I know, many dump questions. But i hope someone can help me, in best case a friendly DM, too. :) 1.) You don't need 10 levels in other classes, you need 9. You may take dragon disciple at level 10. NWN (and D&D, more generally) limits prestige classes to no more than 10 levels in a single prestige class by 20 so you'll still end up with no more than 10 levels dragon disciple by 20, but you can take the first level at 10, you don't have to wait until 11. 2.) Taking the red dragon disciple prestige class does not require DM Team approval. You can take the class upon reaching level 10 if you meet the class requirements. 3.) In general you should RP advancing in any class you have, even if you're just a fighter learning new combat skills by gaining a new feat. Sometimes the changes are subtle but the character is still changing and growing. If the class affects physical changes to the character's body, as the dragon disciple class does sometimes (scales come to mind), it's good to make sure you're aware of those and acting accordingly. It is generally assumed that you're aware of your character's physical changes and acting accordingly. 4.) It is not necessary that you be observed at each level up in the dragon disciple class, or even the first, as long as you're leveling within the posted FRC rules. |
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Post by Aoi on Sept 3, 2016 3:07:52 GMT -5
That helps a lot to clear up. I do a not rp with it every time i log in, but i do rp with i a lot - i think. I have too much fun with it, to see other characters reactions if they learn about her ancestors and so on.^^ Thank you for the quick answers. |
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Post by Aoi on Sept 20, 2016 12:00:01 GMT -5
3.) If the class affects physical changes to the character's body, as the dragon disciple class does sometimes (scales come to mind), it's good to make sure you're aware of those and acting accordingly. It is generally assumed that you're aware of your character's physical changes and acting accordingly. Next level i can choose the PrC, i rp it even more. I'd like to put the changes into my description, too. I also read this thread here: Link Thinking about this, theoretically on every level of the PrC there could be new changes (scales, nails, teeth or other changes) added. I don't want to bug the DMs too much, but would it be possible to let the description change with the changes of the character? |
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Post by Extropy on Sept 20, 2016 19:39:01 GMT -5
DMs can easily add things to your description. Changing/Removing things will require the entire thing to be re-written and could be a little more work, but still isn't too bad.
I recommend that you find a dm online & then PM them the text (via the forums) you want as the description. This lets them cut & paste it, instead of having to type it all out.
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Post by Animayhem on Sept 20, 2016 21:19:50 GMT -5
Make sure you check for typos 
*Corrects*
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Post by Aoi on Sept 21, 2016 0:54:21 GMT -5
Hehehe, i will do so, both. Thanks.  |
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Post by Orchid on Oct 9, 2017 4:29:05 GMT -5
Does FRC support / allow / encourage other strains of Dragon Disciple than the Bioware-standard Red? Does FRC lore suggest / encourage that RDD characters must be / should be / are drawn towards the CE alignment inherent to their draconic ancestry? FRC allows all the standard fire-breathing dragon types of metallic and chromatic dragons from the Monster Manual 3.x without need for DM approval. (Though note and be aware of any multi-classing restrictions on other classes in a potential multi-class combo.) The three fire types in Monster Manual 3.x are red, gold, and brass. Only fire types are allowed. Wings can be adjusted accordingly. Other dragon disciple types are possible beyond red, gold, and brass, pending DM Team approval. All these types must also be fire types. A complete list of additional fire dragon types is not formally provided. Such applications for uncommon kinds rely in-part on player-based initiative to research any such additional types for which to seek approval. FRC's lore does not suggest or encourage that dragon disciples must be or should be drawn toward a Chaotic Evil alignment. While characters that pursue a dragon discipleship will tend to lean toward the alignment of the dragon type to which they are disciples, they are not required to share such a dragon's alignment. While less common, there are good red dragon disciples and evil gold dragon disciples. Perhaps it is their humanoid heredity that gives them such free will to make their own destinies, or perhaps they're not as closely tied to dragons of their wing-color as they like to imagine. While not directly your question, note that dragon disciples on FRC are never the immediate descendants of a dragon. They are characters that make use of their innate spellcasting capabilities (whether bardic or sorcerous) to awaken draconic powers and traits, perhaps buried in their bloodline for generations. Each potential dragon disciple character begins play as a standard (presumably above-average) specimen of his or her base race, from among the standard races allowed on FRC. These characters do not begin exhibiting draconic features or traits until they have begun pursuing the path of discipleship (by progressing in the class). Becoming a dragon disciple is a conscious decision, a coarse of action taken, not a foregone conclusion imposed on a character by heredity. Reading back on this, and my own thread, I've drawn the conclusion, perhaps incorrectly so, that non-fire dragon dragon disciples are currently not allowed, i.e. copper. Would this be accurate? If so is this due to the breath weapon limitation or is there to this(application process not withstanding as thst would be required for a non-standard RDD color regardless? |
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Post by DM Sauron on Oct 9, 2017 6:50:31 GMT -5
Remember that the RDD template also grants fire immunity, precious. This rule is not only in place because of the breath weapon.
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