Haldir reports disturbing scene he found to Suzail

[ren]

At in game date and time referencing real life date NOv 24/2014 at real life time 4:03 am EST

Haldir reports to the purple dragon knight stationed outside the west gate of suzail that he saw  a destroyed cart and 2 dead bodies while he himself was heading from Shallybrook to Suzail.  Near said cart he found 4 individuals...one of whom called himself 'Grim'

Haldir in turn describes the 4 individuals. (ooc:  Rarebrill, Grimknaw, Siriomir Iskandur, Deko Moonfire)

He says 2 of the people accused him off handedly of being responsible for the dead bodies....yet he himself just arrived on the scene, the bodies were already dead, and the 4 people were there standing about before he himself got there. (ooc: Grim and Rarebrill)

He reports seeing the person pour something over his weapon, and Haldir would report his guess it was poison.   (ooc:  Rarebrill)

Seeing this action, Haldir reports he continued on his way to Suzail and thus came to report what he saw to the Purple dragon knight.

OOC:  I have 2 screenshots about this encounter.  I would more then glad to submit said screen shots to a dm, if any dm would like them

Edit by Munroe: Edited to make identities of individuals involved less obvious.

[Rane]

I like the post. One thing though. You shouldn't off handedly reference actual names your character doesn't know. Kind of spoils it. Things like that should be pmd to a dm. The ooc stuff isn't public info and putting the names
Out there for all to see ruins things. Also you should put some effort out there to do some rolls next time. You sat there very silently and made no effort to respond.

Not saying you have to but... Some rolls could have given us an idea. Maybe a spot could have shown us why your character is able to remember every single detail of an encounter without writing anything down.

A post like this should be for the dm team. A public post should be from your own memory. You shouldn't use ooc information in them. Describe the people the best you can "remember" and then see if people make connections.

I understand the "Grim" thing but labeling character names to a point that weren't mentioned isn't needed.

[Azoun IV]

//May I remind you that this is still an IC section. OOC critique is better taken to PMs or a separate thread.

[Rane]

As is ooc info

[deko]

OOC... Nice work man... Not a single line of rp in game and just running trough on your horse and you dare making this post?! Bravoo *claps hands slowly *

[Razgriz]

Guys,

Remember some are still learning how forums and IC/OOC info should be used. I think Rane did the right thing, and explained how the OP can be improved next time.

[arisnorman1]

and this is the *chickenwing* i get irked about metagaming dick heads

[DOT]

//rane's post was on point, and i love ren . Deko, there's no need for off hand comments... some people are still learning, cut them some slack.

ren, when reporting a crime event or something, you have to message DM munroe privately .

[offduty]

Hey guys he's learning. This is no different then OOC babble that people say about other characters. Only he does have screen shots and facts. He only went about it slightly wrong not knowing any different. The OOC tells that go around about Characters without facts to back them up does more damage then this does. EX Oh when I was on last night I seen so and so talk to so and so. They follow this "God". Pardon me but that is more damaging specifically when you are wrong. So give him a break. Rane explained it very well to him and I'm sure he wont make the mistake again. We are all adults and know OOC means you can't know this information so don't meta-game that you do.

[Fenix]

Nov 25, 2014 12:29:32 GMT -5 arisnorman1 said:

and this is the *chickenwing* i get irked about metagaming dick heads

I mean its not metagaming...like he listed it all as ooc.


Regardless, the dms made their comment. Leave this thread as is guys.

[ren]

I am sorry my post was not done as expected procedure as per the norm of the server/forum culture. I will amend my actions in the future.

Thus I am officially withdrawing my char's public IC actions written above.

I would like to humbly thank player Fiddlesticks, for pm-ing helpful tips of how to procedure with such public or private posts in the future.

I apologize of offending/upsetting the player community at large and hampering present and future relations between players and the DM Team.

[StabbingNirvana]

//you should never apologize for upsetting Aris. You should take pride in it.

[Defunct Fiddlesticks]

//You're welcome, Ren.

[Rane]

Nov 25, 2014 14:22:40 GMT -5 ren said:

I am sorry my post was not done as expected procedure as per the norm of the server/forum culture. I will amend my actions in the future.

Thus I am officially withdrawing my char's public IC actions written above.

I would like to humbly thank player Fiddlesticks, for pm-ing helpful tips of how to procedure with such public or private posts in the future.

I apologize of offending/upsetting the player community at large and hampering present and future relations between players and the DM Team.

I meant no offense bud

[ren]

Nov 25, 2014 16:06:08 GMT -5 Rane said:

Nov 25, 2014 14:22:40 GMT -5 ren said:

I am sorry my post was not done as expected procedure as per the norm of the server/forum culture. I will amend my actions in the future.

Thus I am officially withdrawing my char's public IC actions written above.

I would like to humbly thank player Fiddlesticks, for pm-ing helpful tips of how to procedure with such public or private posts in the future.

I apologize of offending/upsetting the player community at large and hampering present and future relations between players and the DM Team.

I meant no offense bud

I am not going to single anyone out to apologize to, but rather I will apologize to everyone as this caused an inharmonious result due to the post I have made above.

I hope everyone can enjoy playing in this server/forum moving forward.

I do not wish to make a place where one finds ... joy, a touch of escapism from the difficult times of IRL affairs, a creative outlet, and where one can make friends in other players.... into place of non peace.

[Munroe]

// This entire reply is Out-of-Character. It appears all the replies are.

Nov 25, 2014 4:15:32 GMT -5 ren said:

At in game date and time referencing real life date NOv 24/2014 at real life time 4:03 am EST

Haldir reports to the purple dragon knight stationed outside the west gate of suzail that he saw  a destroyed cart and 2 dead bodies while he himself was heading from Shallybrook to Suzail.  Near said cart he found 4 individuals...one of whom called himself 'Grim'

Haldir in turn describes the 4 individuals. (ooc:  Rarebrill, Grimknaw, Siriomir Iskandur, Deko Moonfire)

He says 2 of the people accused him off handedly of being responsible for the dead bodies....yet he himself just arrived on the scene, the bodies were already dead, and the 4 people were there standing about before he himself got there. (ooc: Grim and Rarebrill)

He reports seeing the person pour something over his weapon, and Haldir would report his guess it was poison.   (ooc:  Rarebrill)

Seeing this action, Haldir reports he continued on his way to Suzail and thus came to report what he saw to the Purple dragon knight.

OOC:  I have 2 screenshots about this encounter.  I would more then glad to submit said screen shots to a dm, if any dm would like them

Edit by Munroe: Edited to make identities of individuals involved less obvious.

I'm glad you guys where able to work this all out between yourselves.

I've tried to edit the initial post a bit just now to make it slightly less obvious who was involved. I saw this post before anyone had responded last night/this morning, but it didn't appear to be anything particularly damning, so I left it alone. Nobody saw any actual murders or anything, only people and bodies, and it was apparently NPC bodies. Could be dead bandits for all I know.

Generally, if you're reporting an in-character crime, it's best to PM a member of the DM Team so it can be added to our Crimes and Investigations sub-forum. (You can PM me like Tal said, or any other DM. Some DMs are more available than others. PMs of crime reports that I receive are shared with the team generally within 24 hours.) If you do send a report via PM, we may ask for additional evidence (such as screenshots and logs) at that time.

Using an emote such as *describes player X* doesn't go very far in crime reports. When we look at that description, we can't tell if you're describing a character who is in disguise or not. If you actually describe what player X looks like at the time, it can be used to determine if Player X is in disguise or not, or whether Player X could be identified. Logs and screenshots also help in this determination.

Nov 25, 2014 14:07:16 GMT -5 Fenix said:

Nov 25, 2014 12:29:32 GMT -5 arisnorman1 said:

and this is the *chickenwing* i get irked about metagaming dick heads

I mean its not metagaming...like he listed it all as ooc.


Regardless, the dms made their comment. Leave this thread as is guys.

I'm not sure where you get that DMs made a comment on it. That Azoun IV post is from a Guest account. As far as I can see, there have been no DM responses in this thread prior to my own.

However, I am going to lock the thread. I will post a copy of the report in the Crimes and Investigations DM sub-forum. I'm also leaving it here mainly for context for the replies.