Driderman
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Post by Driderman on May 15, 2006 9:22:27 GMT -5
I just recently acquired myself a bunch of Ironwood planks and the 5000gp it requires to craft a tower shield. But before I go and blow all my saving on making a big ol' plank of wood, I'd like to know what it does... anyone?
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Post by Quadhund/Greenhouse on May 15, 2006 11:36:06 GMT -5
Not sure exactly off the top of my head. You could check the toolset as I believe it just places a default ironwood tower shield in your inventory. It is most likely something like 60% weight reduction and maybe +1 ac. I know the ironwood club i made was +1 attack bonus and weight reduction but was not worth the gold it took to make.
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Driderman
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Post by Driderman on May 15, 2006 12:45:06 GMT -5
That was what I was afraid of. Now I've gotten four different opinions on what Ironwood does from four different longtime veterans Goddammit, I want to craft something thats worth the effort!
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Post by soulfien on May 15, 2006 14:24:08 GMT -5
It's lightweight. That's about it. But hey, weight is EVERYTHING!! It's worth it! After all, it's only 5,000 gold. By FRC standards, that's cheap.
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Post by Munroe on May 15, 2006 18:25:11 GMT -5
You mean by "high level" standards, that is cheap. 5000 gold is nothing to throw away, and if you disagree, perhaps our characters should meet. I play a trash collector.
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Post by soulfien on May 15, 2006 23:45:03 GMT -5
even a lvl 5 can scrape up 5k.
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Post by hexer on May 16, 2006 2:56:10 GMT -5
even a lvl 5 can scrape up 5k. Level five farmer, perhaps... None of my characters have had 5k before level 7 and that was with work.
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Post by MTGPackFoils on May 16, 2006 5:40:42 GMT -5
Irownwood Tower Shield
-5% Arcane Spell failure check 40% weight reduction
that's it
So arcane casters wielding the shiled and no armor would have a 45% arcane spell failure check.
As far as 5,000 gold...I have 2 characters,...1 7th that parties with others and 1 that's almost 7th and solos...never had 5,000 gold on them at any one given time. If I did it would go in to start a bank account. Most I've ever had after restocking on potions was over 2,000 and I just did that with Amra last night.
Of course from what I understand loot spawns are based on level and helped by the search skill.
*shrugs*
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Driderman
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Post by Driderman on May 16, 2006 5:55:41 GMT -5
Well I'm not afraid to admit, when there's no-one around to rp with, I go out killing and looting. After all, not much else to do and you might be lucky and bump into someone who'll rp with you. This is my second time I'm up to 5k and I'm "only" lvl 7. Of course, in the course of my adventures, I've found quite a few scrolls that sold for about 1500-2000gp each. I guess I'm lucky that way But on topic, I think I'll just dump those Ironwood planks in the thrash then. So, if you want them Munroe...
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Post by soulfien on May 16, 2006 10:48:59 GMT -5
I see a lot of lvl 5-7 PC's using raise dead scrolls left and right. Those are about 1,700 each?
My lvl 7 druid had an ironwood quarterstaff, ironwood tower shield, masterwork hide, and a composite longbow +1 that she bought from another PC for 1,700.
All that she bought or made herself. Oh she also made an ironwood club just so I could test the stats on it.
She never farmed, just never wasted her money.
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Post by breckis on May 16, 2006 18:19:54 GMT -5
.... I feel poor... I have a lvl 9 who has yet to have more than 2k at anyone point in time. Infact the richest he's ever been, was a little over 3k, and that was so he could buy his weapon of choice from that exotic arms trader in Redmist.
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Post by Munroe on May 16, 2006 18:31:24 GMT -5
I see a lot of lvl 5-7 PC's using raise dead scrolls left and right. Those are about 1,700 each? My lvl 7 druid had an ironwood quarterstaff, ironwood tower shield, masterwork hide, and a composite longbow +1 that she bought from another PC for 1,700. All that she bought or made herself. Oh she also made an ironwood club just so I could test the stats on it. She never farmed, just never wasted her money. I won't say how much Raise Dead scrolls cost my characters except to say "Wow, 1700 gp?" However, I'd hardly call spending money on Raise Dead scrolls or Restoration or Remove Curse a waste even though they all cure "temporary" ailments because in-game those ailments--especially being dead--should otherwise be permanent. With a Raise Dead scroll, you always get your money's worth, at least I do. Even if I buy it and never use it, other PCs will buy them for at least roughly what I paid. And if I use it? Sometimes I'd pay well beyond the cost of a Raise Dead scroll to not have to respawn.
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Post by henny on May 18, 2006 13:40:01 GMT -5
If you guys want to play who's the brokest fish in the barrel, do you know how embarressing it is for a 11th level to have to borrow money to take a caravan? And I'm a sorceror.. so that means theres like 3 items on the server I would ever spend money on. Raise dead, Potions, and kits. Honestly if you're playing anything but an evil character.. your probably gonna be broke... your riches are in the friendships you forge by spending that hard earned money on things to protect, save, or heal your friends. See, I used to horde then I realized, this isn't the solo player game, this is a multiplayer, and just like in real life, when your friends are in need, you'll give them everything but the rent check to help them. Unless your a blackhearted stingy ruthless banite lord..... or a dwarf!
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Post by MTGPackFoils on May 18, 2006 14:13:20 GMT -5
See, I used to horde then I realized, this isn't the solo player game, this is a multiplayer, and just like in real life, when your friends are in need, you'll give them everything but the rent check to help them. Unless your a blackhearted stingy ruthless banite lord..... or a dwarf! Actually Banite lords hand out to others...so I guess that shrinks that list to just Dwarves. ;D
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Post by Grozer on May 19, 2006 17:31:44 GMT -5
Honestly if you're playing anything but an evil character.. your probably gonna be broke... Sorry just have to ask what evil has to do with having gold? LOL
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Post by Grozer on May 19, 2006 17:33:26 GMT -5
even a lvl 5 can scrape up 5k. Level five farmer, perhaps... None of my characters have had 5k before level 7 and that was with work. I'd have to agree with Hexer and I have started several characters on this server. Either that or damn lucky at finding loot. In fact even with a cleric. i.e. they have healing spells, I couldnt accumulate gold that fast.
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Post by Grozer on May 19, 2006 17:36:17 GMT -5
Of course from what I understand loot spawns are based on level and helped by the search skill. *shrugs* That would be an incorrect assumption. Of course as you get to higher level you have a chance at taking down bigger bosses so I get there is a relationship between level and amount of loot. But does level and search effect the randomness of loot? Nope.
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Post by Talus on May 19, 2006 17:41:03 GMT -5
Of course from what I understand loot spawns are based on level and helped by the search skill. *shrugs* That would be an incorrect assumption. Of course as you get to higher level you have a chance at taking down bigger bosses so I get there is a relationship between level and amount of loot. But does level and search effect the randomness of loot? Nope. *giggles as the server becomes littered with traps as the average search skill stops going up*
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Post by Quadhund/Greenhouse on May 19, 2006 17:49:52 GMT -5
Of course from what I understand loot spawns are based on level and helped by the search skill. *shrugs* That would be an incorrect assumption. Of course as you get to higher level you have a chance at taking down bigger bosses so I get there is a relationship between level and amount of loot. But does level and search effect the randomness of loot? Nope. True dat! I've found containers that range anywhere from 200 gold to a scroll worth 3.5K gold. And here is a hint on how to make money on this server: Appraise skill. I dont know if many people realize it, but this skill works wonders. With a high enough appraise, you can sell goods back at a 30% higher rate than other characters, and buy goods at 30% below cost. Now all in all that is a good amount of savings. Where someone would get 10K you get 13K, where someone would buy something at 10K you get it at 7k. See how the savings add up. And if you dont have appraise, find a friendly Cap'n that says "Argh!" a lot and have him buy/sell for you. Course he'll charge a modest fee, but you'll still come out on top in the end. The one thing a rogue knows is money! Without going into too much depth there are only a few classes i pity in terms of financial problems, fighters, barbarians, rangers, and druids. Other than that, most other classes have something that saves them money.
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Post by Talus on May 19, 2006 18:58:56 GMT -5
"Aye, I 'appy ta da ye buyin an' sellin. I'll show dem merchants the what fer."
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Post by moulinous on May 19, 2006 20:53:58 GMT -5
Man, all these older players stick together...look new blood, trust me, only a certain dwarf has your true goals at heart. He knows you want that good loot. His name is Guldar and if you need it he will get it for you. The Capn has the old foggies bussiness and Guldie the new players at the moment..hmmmm...mayhap a merchant guild needs to raise its ugly head...and as for Guldar
"Yah needs sumeone ta heads oft does damm thievin merchants fer yahs? me has wats yah needs or me cans finds it fer yah..."
and as for having gold...ummmm...it aint dat hard to find it, you just gotto risk going out and getting it. I mean, i have a little saved up, aint saying how much because dms and some bandits might come after me, you just gotto play it good. Find an area, cleanse it all, pick up everything! even bones skeltons drop, never sell anything to someone you cannot sell it better to, put points in appraise and above all else, realize that potoins do cost money. i try to never use them much as they will become something you rely on. and they are exspensive damm it! and one creature sooner or later is going to take it off. I see pcs use it as soon as we are leaving a city just for a walk to redmist or suzail...heck, why waste it for a friggin walk?!? Anyhow, just my two coppers.
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Post by moulinous on May 19, 2006 21:28:41 GMT -5
LOL, just came back and read this, and i aint dissing the Cap'n, he is a good merchant as well. Just pointing out its like evil Wal-Mart vs evil Wal-Mart. Both of us have good stuff and plenty of buyers on hand...
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Post by soulfien on May 19, 2006 21:35:43 GMT -5
I never buy potions. I sell any potions I find. I don't buy frivilous things. Half of the time I don't even have a raise dead scroll on my person. After all, I can't raise myself from the dead now can I? Other ways to make money? Crafting! People pay good money to a smith, an alchemist, scribe, and wands maker!
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Driderman
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Post by Driderman on May 22, 2006 11:09:29 GMT -5
Well, as already mentioned, acquiring large amouns of gold is easier when you pick up everything that isn't nailed down and sell it. Also, I rarely buy potions, I find them. And those I don't use unless its a matter of life or death. Never carry around a raise scroll either, unless I found it. And of course, playing a Fighter/cleric gives me access to a good str score, free healing spells + the ability to cast bulls strength. so I'm a regular mule! I even pick those useless spawns that other people leave behind ;D
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Post by Booze Hound on May 22, 2006 11:50:43 GMT -5
I even pick those useless spawns that other people leave behind ;D of course anyone caught leaving spawns and drops behind will be quickly beaten, robbed, and left for dead.
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Post by olwentheold on May 22, 2006 12:03:40 GMT -5
This has so gone off-topic. Start a new thread if you want to bicker about hoarding Banites and unlucky gnomes
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