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Post by DM Richard (Retired) on Jul 7, 2005 12:37:58 GMT -5
With all the people we have running around in disguise, the character description can't be trusted. Character biography's are information your character wouldn't know. Any allowable information taken from an "examine" of another player could have been gained more accurately through role playing. And much of the information that shouldn't be gained is harder to get if you role play instead of examine.
While it isn't a "rule" to not examine players (it is a rule to not metagame), I'm saying there is no need to do so.
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Post by Booze Hound on Jul 8, 2005 2:53:45 GMT -5
With all the people we have running around in disguise, the character description can't be trusted. Character biography's are information your character wouldn't know. Any allowable information taken from an "examine" of another player could have been gained more accurately through role playing. And much of the information that shouldn't be gained is harder to get if you role play instead of examine. While it isn't a "rule" to not examine players (it is a rule to not metagame), I'm saying there is no need to do so. wow...man I know it is bad mojo to go against a DM and all but man Rich, saying the examine buttone shouldn't be used at all seems kinda harsh. I mean I know that I for one put quite a bit of thought in the one that is currently in mine, and know that many others did as well, and they are great tools when used right. I know that the function is abused more often that not, but what I have written, and many many others is there to do nothing more than enhance RP. I mean seriously...Vind has a pronounced scar on his face, and smells like a wet critter. He stinks...pretty much all of the time. and there is NO WAY that i could get this across to other characters consistently without spamming the convo with emotes like *smells like wet dog* everytime someone new walks up. personally when i see someone spewing forth a ridiculous amount of emotes, it looks to me like someone looking for attention, and it annoys me. so I actually feel overjoyed when someone remarks on one of the physical attributes mentioned in the examine feature of Vind. there is a great story behind the scar. there is a reason he smells bad. it's not a biography of his life or anything, just a quick synopsis of what you would see if you walked up and "examined" him. anyway, do what you want guys, but feel free to examine Vind anyday.
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Post by Gordy101st on Jul 8, 2005 10:30:25 GMT -5
I think all Rich meant was that its easy to get into bad habits. I know having played nwn when I was about 15 on a server which was pretty much permanent PvP (not just player combat - players plotted and schemed against each other) that the right click - examine can become a knee jerk reaction to seeing another PC, disguised or not.
I think Rich was talking more about disguised characters than just casually examining someone to refresh your memory about them.
When you see a character in disguise at least it might be better to just force youself not to examine them. That way any preconceptions and ooc info about the character you might have had can't be brought back to the forefront of your memory and your reactions to the 'stranger' would be more spontaneous, interesting and less 'textbook'. You might surprise yourself with how refreshing it can be to talk to a disguised character as if they're a stranger instead of trying to force a story to happen from the encounter.
If someone is in disguise and they risk approaching someone else the chances are they either want info or to cause trouble. Reacting how you would to a stranger might allow them to bring about a plotline you hadn't thought of or may indeed bring you INTO a plotline that was happening that you weren't aware of.
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