New, Tips? Where, how find basic food, rest, gear, start $?

[asturonethoriusaline]

Hi New here. So tried a RP PW like this one, that where needed food, sleep, similar rest rules. I died of starvation, lack of water, lack of rest, over and over, because as a new player, couldnt find, buy food, a spot to sleep, water, had no starting gold, no starting basic gear, and couldnt find, get gold, to get those things to get gold.

Hope that not experience here.

Hope that have at least basic starting gold, gear, etc, or that can easily find, buy basic gear, food, water, rest kits, etc.

So any basic tips for this new player?

Also what are some basic commands in the game, FRC interface that should know?

Thanks for any help in learning the basic ropes so to speak.

Mike

[tingly]

Hay. Here's one good read with regards to unique mechanics here. A lot of the information in that subforum as well as the rules subforum should help. That being said, there are no frustrating systems for hunger/thirst ticking down over time. Only a need to eat something after resting to get rid of some attribute penalties.

After the 'tutorial area' you're pointed to something of a starting town, which is usually occupied by PCs of all level ranges. You can find plenty of low level dungeons nearby, as well as shops. You can usually find further guidance through roleplay with any PCs present.

[asturonethoriusaline]

Ok, thanks. And thanks to the person who PM ed me a couple, few, some of the basics, as well.

Time to start, create My Toon, Character, then PM it to the DM's(because it will either start as Ranger, become Monk, or start Monk then become Ranger, and Monk stuff, plans, have to be sent to DM's)

Thanks

Mike

[martel]

You'll also want to look at the server rules and the forum rules, available here: frc.proboards.com/board/211/server-mandatory-reading-community-members

FRC has rules relevant to *some* multi-class combinations, including multi-classing by monks. In my experience, FRC has fewer rules than many other servers. The emphasis here is on RP and the golden rule:

have fun, but not at the expense of others. Be kind to your fellow roleplayers. Remember that the other characters are real people behind the screens of their own computers. It is unacceptable on FRC to harass or abuse other Players or Staff.

Best way to find out how this works is to make a character and see how you like the environment.  Much that may be obscure before you start will be clearer when you go through the "starting area" and find yourself in game.  

[asturonethoriusaline]

Yep, what you say is true. Thanks. Already did a LOT of reading. What I didnt find or remember, I have asked in various questions. Pretty much ready to go, start.

Pretty much only question left unanswered, is my question in the DM Q&A about if its ok to start Ranger, then take 6 straight monk levels, then forever quit Monk, never ever take anymore monk levels, then take 2 more Ranger levels, then either take 1 Shadowdancer level, if approved, or 1 Assassin lev, and that is my understanding about this rule, situation correct?

Other then that ready to go start.

[malclave]

I think that's correct, except possibly for the Assassin part. My understanding is that the two monk orders that you could join as a prior Ranger would be Sun Soul and Yellow Rose, both of which require either Good or Neutral alignment. You would have to change alignment to Evil before taking an Assassin level.

Certainly possible, but something else that would have to be RPd and with DM supervision to award (detract? ) Alignment points when appropriate.

[asturonethoriusaline]

Feb 6, 2019 17:05:02 GMT -5 malclave said:

I think that's correct, except possibly for the Assassin part. My understanding is that the two monk orders that you could join as a prior Ranger would be Sun Soul and Yellow Rose, both of which require either Good or Neutral alignment. You would have to change alignment to Evil before taking an Assassin level.

Certainly possible, but something else that would have to be RPd and with DM supervision to award (detract? ) Alignment points when appropriate.

I wasnt talking about joining an order.

I thought about the possibility of Yellow Rose order. Problem with that though, is that if Shadowdancer not approved, then almost stuck, almost screwed, sacrificed, invested choices, decisions to get SD, then no way to fall back on Assassin if no get SD, unless able to RP leaving Yellow Rose, them maybe hunting you down, RPing a change in alignment, etc.

A lot easier to start as a Ranger, then take 6 straight levels of Monk. Do NOT join Monastery Order. Then FOREVER quit Monk, Never ever take monk levels, then 2 more ranger levels, then taker either Shadowdancer or Assassin lev 1.

From my understanding of the rule, it says nothing about taking classes before taking Monk levels not being allowed.

The rule only said that ONCE take Monk levels, that cant take other classes unless join right Monastery Order, or unless forever quit Monk, never ever take monk levels again

Going by that, it seems like I shoukd be able to start as a lev 1 Ranger, then take 6 levels of Monk. Never join a Monastery Order. Then Forever quit, never ever take any more Monk levels, then take 2 more Ranger levels. Then take either 1 Shadowdancer lev or 1 Assassin Level.

That seems right.

But maybe I am wrong

Is this right, is the question I am asking?

Thanks for your comment help.

[perspicacity]

You might want to look at this thread:

frc.proboards.com/thread/21677/dm-monk-multiclassing

[asturonethoriusaline]

Feb 6, 2019 18:10:27 GMT -5 perspicacity said:

You might want to look at this thread:

frc.proboards.com/thread/21677/dm-monk-multiclassing

Ok I think this from DM Munroe answers my question. He said it in the linked thread you gave.


DM Munroe:And a character not in an order may not progress as a monk if he or she already has another class.

So according to that. I would not be able to start as a Ranger. Then take 6 levels of Monk, never join a Order. Forever Quit Monk. Take 2 more Ranger levels.

So guess I have to start as monk, defer Weapon Finesse until 3rd level, instead of taking it at 1st level. Take 6 straight monk levels. Then forever quit Monk. Then 3 straight Ranger Levels, then either Shadowdancer or Assassin.

Thanks for your help.

I can now create my character.

[Eldok]

I suggest you go straight monk.

[asturonethoriusaline]

This is looking just like the other RP PW.

1. I create lev 1 Monk

Stats str 10

Dex 18

Con 10

Int 12

Wis 16

Cha 8

Then I start.

Then not allowed to enter Cormyr to buy Armor, Weapons Gear.

Told must get a Adventure Lic from outpost.

No store in outpost.

Talk to the Captain. Choose Dalelands. Get nice Bow BUT NO ARROWS.

Captain says to talk to guy that give lic

Guy that give lic says talk to guy upstairs, guy upstairs say to fight goblins to get license, to enter Cormyr to be able to buy the gear needed to fight beat the goblins needed to enter Cormyr.

So with NO GEAR, NO REST KITS. NO WAY TO REST. NO ARMOR. NO WEAPONS WITH AMMO AND ONLY A BOW WITHOUT ARROWS. ONLY 10 CURE MINOR WOUNDS POTIONS THAT HEAL ONLY 1, 2 HP, I go out to fight the goblins

1st goblin dead. Lose 1 hp. 2nd goblin dead lose 1 hp. 3rd Goblin dead. Then 2 goblins attack 1 goblin dead. Other Goblin hits for 5 hp. Down to 1 hp left. Goblin hits again. Character Dead.

At least character was a monk with a 17/18 AC with unarmed attack doing D6 dam with a BAB/AB of ZERO(No Weapon Finesse because cant start Ranger then go Monk without joining a order.

But if had been any other character it woukd have been worse

No armor would have been 10 to 14 AC instead of 17/18 AC. And there would be no Armor because no Armor for sale at the Outpost. Have to enter Cormyr to buy Armor, but have to fight goblins with 10 to 14 unarmored AC to get into Cormyr to buy Armor.

Which means the Character will probably die before getting into Cormyr.

But oh wait, maybe a character could have a weapon and beat goblins.

Maybe if choose right background, not the dalelands, can get a sword, etc, that character can use, has Prof in, so that dont take penalty to hit, instead of a Bow with NO ARROWS.

That way AC 10 to AC 14 character can at least do D4, D6, D8 damage instead of using D2 damage fist.

But if unlucky, then AC 10 to AC 14 character gets stuck with BOW with NO ARROWS, because they chose Dalelands. And so they have to use their fist, with probably a -1,-2,-3,-4 penalty to hit, and only do D2, D3 damage.

Why? Because they cant buy gear until enter cormyr, and cant enter Cormyr until fight goblins without BASIC CLASS APPROPIATE GEAR, UNLESS THEY GET LUCKY, CHOOSE THE RIGHT BACKGROUND INSTEAD OF DALELANDS.

AT LEAST I had a monk character that didnt need gear, IN THEORY

AND STILL DIED.

THINK THAT IS KIND OF BS.

THINK THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY, FIND, GET, ETC, CLASS APPROPIATE BASIC GEAR, ARMOR, WEAPONS, HEALING POTIONS THAT HEAL 1 D8 hp instead of D2,D3, D4 pathetic cure minor wounds potions, BEFORE HAVE TO GO FIGHT GOBLINS.

I mean that BASIC CURE LIGHT WOUND POTIONS THAT HEAL D6, D8, 3, 4,5 HP on average usually only cost 35 to 75 gold, and usually are easily bought at a nearby store.

There should be a BASIC STORE in the outpost. Then you buy Basic Gear, then fight goblins.

At least I had a Monk.

Now that I know about this.

I will never ever start out as anything but monks.

Why start out as anything else, when you will have a 10 to 14 AC, having to fight goblins with FIST.

BS.

And only way to combat that BS is with a monk that STILL DIED.

Guess going to have to approach this BS the way approach the Darksun Gladiator Pits

MAKE A CHARACTER TREE

Not going to wander the Fugue Plane, until get back on material plane, with 10% less gold, because killed by Goblins, not equipped to fight, then get killed again, then wander fugue plane more, then lose 10% more gold, RINSE REPEAT OVER AND OVER IN FRUSTRATION.

Nope going to avoid that BS.

If character dies to the beginning of the game goblins, then respawn to fugue plane, exit PW, reconnect, create next character, click play, fight goblins, die, respawn to fugue plane, exit, reconnect, create new character, click play, RINSE, REPEAT, until FINALLY BEAT GOBLINS, DEAL WITH THAT BS, GET LICENSE, ENTER CORMYR, GO TO STORE, BUY CLASS APPROPIATE BASIC GEAR, FINALLY.

[asturonethoriusaline]

Feb 6, 2019 21:46:35 GMT -5 lucid said:

Your use of caps lock has convinced me this is a huge problem for everyone, even for me. I never knew! I applaud your altruism in devoting so much time to ranting instead of just asking for help, you’re really going the extra mile toward making sure to protect your fellow man from the BS.

You’ll need to wait while we redesign the server for you...try back in a few months, it should be ready then. Ehh maybe a year..wouldn’t want to undershoot.

Ok then being forced to fight goblins without gear with just fist, in order to get into Cormyr buy the needed gear that needed to beat goblins to get in Cormyr to get needed gear to beat goblins to get into Cormyr.........

Is so right.

Nothing wrong with that.

Nope not BS at all.

Should just deal with it, and or ask for help to deal with it.

I see, thanks for that.

[malclave]

You don't need to get into Cormyr to buy gear for the starter quests... you have some beginning gold and there's a merchant outside the outpost.

[asturonethoriusaline]

Feb 6, 2019 23:00:29 GMT -5 malclave said:

You don't need to get into Cormyr to buy gear for the starter quests... you have some beginning gold and there's a merchant outside the outpost.

Yep your right. Figured out what happened.

1. Seaeched everywhere, inside and out, and tried to talk to everyone, and did talk ro wveryone EXCEPT:

The one guy didnt talk to, was standing right outside the outpost.

Clicked SEVERAL TIMES on the guy, NOTHING HAPPENED.

So moved on.

2. Everyone kept on telling me that shopkeeper was outside the barracks inside the outpost

3. Made New Character Duplicate of First Character(Wasnt goibg to spend wandering the Fugue Plane Forever)(Different Name)

4. Saw another PC, started IC RP asking if knew where store was. PC led me to the Storekeeper.

5. The Shopkeeper was the NPC that clicking on a Zillion times with the first Character that couldnt find Shopkeeper, died against the Goblins.

6. So I clicked on the NPC and the store came up.

So must have been a temporary error, bug, glitch, that temporarily made it so that temporarily couldnt talk to shopkeeper, which caused the situation where couldnt find, talk to Shopkeeper, have to fight goblins with no gear.

[asturonethoriusaline]

Are Hand Axes, considered the same as Kama's for purposes of being considered unarmed attack Monk weapons like Kama, Staff?


Because can do Monk Flurry of Blows with Monk Staff, Kama, that count as unarmed flurry attacks.

So is Hand Axe the same?

It says it is a Monk Weapon.

[Fluffy the Mad]

Feb 7, 2019 0:06:08 GMT -5 asturonethoriusaline said:

Are Hand Axes, considered the same as Kama's for purposes of being considered unarmed attack Monk weapons like Kama, Staff?


Because can do Monk Flurry of Blows with Monk Staff, Kama, that count as unarmed flurry attacks.

So is Hand Axe the same?

It says it is a Monk Weapon.

No. UBAB is only calculated for unarmed and kama, not quarterstaff. Please quit double-posting the exact same questions and rants in multiple threads. It doesn't help it get answered any more quickly, it clutters up the forums, and is a little rude to those who try to answer questions and help in the first place.