Post by asturonethoriusaline on Feb 5, 2019 16:36:10 GMT -5
Hi I am new. I have some questions about the Shadowdancer, and the application, and about Assassin Class, and about other FRC PW concerns that help determine fit here.
1. SD PRC class, application:
One concern I have is about the possibility of making either a Monk/Ranger of the Order of the Yellow Rose in order to try to be a Monk/Ranger/Shadowdancer.
My concern is if do that and take all the prerequisite feats, skills, MAKE SACRIFICES, CHOICES, etc, in order to QUALIFY for Shadowdancer Prestige Class, that what happen if not have application approved, rejected?
Game Mechanically, CONCEPT, IDEA, BUILD, maybe even RP wise, that would either seem to SCREW, HOSE, NERF, DESTROY my toon, character, game mechanically, and concept, idea wise.
I mean to qualify for SD, I would have to spend 5 skill points on Tumble(not that bad admittedly as would probably spend those points on Tumble anyways.), take dodge, Mobility(hmmm maybe I am wrong here, as I would take this if I was to make a Monk/Ranger/Assassin, so maybe this is not too bad either.)
But surely if I make a Monk/Ranger of the Yellow Rose, that getting application rejected makes it so that I dont get both SD or Assassin, because Yellow Rose Monk is good, cant be evil, the align of Assassin.
So the only way I could try to make a Monk/Ranger/SD(apply for SD), would be to NOT join a Monastery, take 6 straight levels of Monk(Build)(Need 6th lev for Knockdown feat given by 6th Monk lev) then stop being a monk forever. During that time apply for Shadowdancer, take requirements for both Shadowdancer, Assassin, since requirements are similar. Then take 3 Ranger Levels, then if get SD application approved, take SD lev 1 at 10 character lev(Monk 6/Ranger 3/SD 1), or if get SD app rejected, then take Assassin Lev 1 at 10th lev(Monk 6, Ranger 3/ Assassin 1).
So maybe I am wrong about this, in regards to screwing what kind of character concept I want to play.
But it seems like not screwed, if rejected, only if I do it this way. Otherwise it seems like getting screwed, if application rejected.
I guess the reason going into this was to find out if that I would be screwed by getting SD application rejected, if need to then not ever apply to be a SD, so I wouldnt be screwed if application rejected.
The other thing is I noticed in the application about it asking to what RP has be done to justify getting to play a Shadowdancer.
The only problem I might have about that, this, is that how are you supposed to get the needed and Proper RP that would justify getting a SD and what that kind of RP is?
I mean it seems to me that could be whether or not get the RP done to get SD, could be CHANCE.
So that if Chance is against me, I could end up not getting the RP(Right Kind Of RP)to get Shadowdancer)
That makes it seem like there might maybe could in theory be either no or less control in development, planning, building, creating, playing, etc, character, toon.
I guess if I have the power to RP, control, build, develop, create, plan, play, etc, whatever character, toon, concept, idea, etc,I want to, can thru having the power, ability to RP, within the rules, that can, will,would, etc, get approved, that that would be what I am looking for, ok with, by me.
But if its blind chance, luck that determines if get the Right Kind of RP needed to get approval, play what you want to play or dont get approved, dont get to play what you want, that is available within the rules, then that would not sit well with me, at least I dont think it would.
So that covers the 1st issue.
2. About the eating, etc things.
I was on another RP PW. They required eating, etc, lots of similar stuff, to this PW
I couldnt find where to buy food, BASIC Gear, couldnt figure out how to Rest, etc, and because of that kept on starving to death, dying of sleep exhaustion, and couldnt get the money to do those things, because couldnt get the food, sleep, gear to be able to go earn money, etc.
I hope this PW is not like that.
Hopefully there is a newbie friendly area, that while still does those things, RP, is nicer, kinder to the newbie, until the said newbie learns the ropes, figures things out.
Such a area, situation seems like should start PC's with a certain amount of starting Gold, whatever that fair amount might be.
Such a area, right kind of RP PW should either have class, RP specific BASIC GEAR on newly created toon, character, or be easily able to find a store to buy said Basic Gear, food, things to be able to rest with, or a easily findable nearby inn, tavern, where can, could rest, if need to, want to.
That seems reasonable, fair, logical, rational, and still RP based.
If this PW like this, that,then good, ok.
But if like the other RP PW I mentioned, not interested in that.
Other then those relatively few concerns, I am looking forward to creating a toon, chatacter, RP, roleplaying said Toon, Character.
Mike
1. SD PRC class, application:
One concern I have is about the possibility of making either a Monk/Ranger of the Order of the Yellow Rose in order to try to be a Monk/Ranger/Shadowdancer.
My concern is if do that and take all the prerequisite feats, skills, MAKE SACRIFICES, CHOICES, etc, in order to QUALIFY for Shadowdancer Prestige Class, that what happen if not have application approved, rejected?
Game Mechanically, CONCEPT, IDEA, BUILD, maybe even RP wise, that would either seem to SCREW, HOSE, NERF, DESTROY my toon, character, game mechanically, and concept, idea wise.
I mean to qualify for SD, I would have to spend 5 skill points on Tumble(not that bad admittedly as would probably spend those points on Tumble anyways.), take dodge, Mobility(hmmm maybe I am wrong here, as I would take this if I was to make a Monk/Ranger/Assassin, so maybe this is not too bad either.)
But surely if I make a Monk/Ranger of the Yellow Rose, that getting application rejected makes it so that I dont get both SD or Assassin, because Yellow Rose Monk is good, cant be evil, the align of Assassin.
So the only way I could try to make a Monk/Ranger/SD(apply for SD), would be to NOT join a Monastery, take 6 straight levels of Monk(Build)(Need 6th lev for Knockdown feat given by 6th Monk lev) then stop being a monk forever. During that time apply for Shadowdancer, take requirements for both Shadowdancer, Assassin, since requirements are similar. Then take 3 Ranger Levels, then if get SD application approved, take SD lev 1 at 10 character lev(Monk 6/Ranger 3/SD 1), or if get SD app rejected, then take Assassin Lev 1 at 10th lev(Monk 6, Ranger 3/ Assassin 1).
So maybe I am wrong about this, in regards to screwing what kind of character concept I want to play.
But it seems like not screwed, if rejected, only if I do it this way. Otherwise it seems like getting screwed, if application rejected.
I guess the reason going into this was to find out if that I would be screwed by getting SD application rejected, if need to then not ever apply to be a SD, so I wouldnt be screwed if application rejected.
The other thing is I noticed in the application about it asking to what RP has be done to justify getting to play a Shadowdancer.
The only problem I might have about that, this, is that how are you supposed to get the needed and Proper RP that would justify getting a SD and what that kind of RP is?
I mean it seems to me that could be whether or not get the RP done to get SD, could be CHANCE.
So that if Chance is against me, I could end up not getting the RP(Right Kind Of RP)to get Shadowdancer)
That makes it seem like there might maybe could in theory be either no or less control in development, planning, building, creating, playing, etc, character, toon.
I guess if I have the power to RP, control, build, develop, create, plan, play, etc, whatever character, toon, concept, idea, etc,I want to, can thru having the power, ability to RP, within the rules, that can, will,would, etc, get approved, that that would be what I am looking for, ok with, by me.
But if its blind chance, luck that determines if get the Right Kind of RP needed to get approval, play what you want to play or dont get approved, dont get to play what you want, that is available within the rules, then that would not sit well with me, at least I dont think it would.
So that covers the 1st issue.
2. About the eating, etc things.
I was on another RP PW. They required eating, etc, lots of similar stuff, to this PW
I couldnt find where to buy food, BASIC Gear, couldnt figure out how to Rest, etc, and because of that kept on starving to death, dying of sleep exhaustion, and couldnt get the money to do those things, because couldnt get the food, sleep, gear to be able to go earn money, etc.
I hope this PW is not like that.
Hopefully there is a newbie friendly area, that while still does those things, RP, is nicer, kinder to the newbie, until the said newbie learns the ropes, figures things out.
Such a area, situation seems like should start PC's with a certain amount of starting Gold, whatever that fair amount might be.
Such a area, right kind of RP PW should either have class, RP specific BASIC GEAR on newly created toon, character, or be easily able to find a store to buy said Basic Gear, food, things to be able to rest with, or a easily findable nearby inn, tavern, where can, could rest, if need to, want to.
That seems reasonable, fair, logical, rational, and still RP based.
If this PW like this, that,then good, ok.
But if like the other RP PW I mentioned, not interested in that.
Other then those relatively few concerns, I am looking forward to creating a toon, chatacter, RP, roleplaying said Toon, Character.
Mike