Untainted_Soul
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Post by Untainted_Soul on Jan 27, 2019 18:20:50 GMT -5
Are there any role playing related requirements for taking one's first level in Divine Champion? Polsivar is about 6K experience from level 10, and I want to take Divine champion with him. Anything that I should be made aware of?
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Post by Munroe on Jan 28, 2019 0:11:19 GMT -5
Are there any role playing related requirements for taking one's first level in Divine Champion? Polsivar is about 6K experience from level 10, and I want to take Divine champion with him. Anything that I should be made aware of? I would recommend looking at this thread about CoT alignment: DM Q&A: Class: Divine Champion (CoT) PrC Question frc.proboards.com/thread/3796/class-divine-champion-cot-question ( frc.proboards.com/post/44867/thread) Note that Heimdall was a DM at the time of making this reply, though it looks like his account has been deleted so all that remains is his name. I'd think the one-step rule would apply for them. It's good enough for the clerics after all. ;) That said I don't have a book handy so there's a chance there is some official source material that may prove me to be wrong....it's happened before! :-[ :D The FRCS doesn't give an alignment restriction for divine champions but the cleric one-step rule certainly makes sense.
As indicated in the Q&A, there is no codified hard-and-fast restriction on divine champion alignment beyond the hard-coded "non-evil only" restriction. However, divine champions that go too far from the alignment and goals of their gods may experience repercussions for failing to uphold their duties.
Also see this thread, that addresses training to become a divine champion: DM Q&A Champion of XYZ frc.proboards.com/thread/25380/dm-champion-xyz ( frc.proboards.com/post/273775/thread) Note that Syd's Blue Sky was a DM at the time of making this reply. It's a martial class on the par with a fighter for the HD, prof, BAB and feats. Regardless of the god, it would seem to me to make sense that they would be bringing this martial approach to the table. I'd expect a CoL to be an active and militant force for the church, a sword arm, nearly a paladin without the code in their approach. I see nothing martial at all about organizing festivals focusing on artistic activities. What Syds said. Even a divine champion of a peace-loving deity is still representative of a martial branch of that faith. The champion is being granted Sacred Defense (+1 to all saves every 2 levels), Lay on Hands, Smite Evil, and eventually Divine Wrath from his or her deity, all of which are combat-focused divine blessings. In order to enter the class, the character has to have a +7 BAB and Weapon Focus in a melee weapon. Entering the class also grants light and medium armor proficiency, shield proficiency, and proficiency with all simple and martial weapons. These are not blessings from the deity, but things the character learns to use as he or she becomes a divine champion. As Syds said, the class is a full BAB class (+1 BAB every non-epic level), and a d10 hitdice class. The Champion of Torm class also grants access to a combat feat (from the fighter list) every two levels, with the exception of Weapon Specialization, the fighter-exclusive feat. Champion of Torm is a divine combat class with some of the perks of the paladin class (Lay on Hands, Smite Evil), but mechanically closer to fighter than paladin due to the feat progression. No matter what deity the character is a champion of, the divine champion still trained as a combatant to become a champion and progress as one. Even a divine champion of Eldath, the goddess of peace, would be a combat-focused character by nature of the class. Such a character might focus on defensive feats and protecting others through a strong defense, and might not engage enemies directly, but rather let them engage him/her, or put him/herself between enemies and allies, but the character would still be a warrior by training and continued class progression. When not in combat, a champion of Eldath or Lliira, or Sune, or whatever, would do as others of that faith do, of course. An Eldathan would live peacefully, a Lliiran would throw or attend festivals, a Sunite would foster love and friendship, etc., but that isn't because the character is a divine champion, it's because that character is a devoted member of the faith. All those things would be things a member of that faith does, and, having been granted divine power (Lay on Hands, Sacred Defense, etc.) by the god(dess), the character is likely very devoted to the faith and participates in things that faith does. Those things, however, are part of being faithful, not part of being a divine champion. A character who is a divine champion of a peace-loving faith is a warrior by training though, and would still be the first one to strap on a sword belt when trouble arises. Such a character might be the one to wear the sword in peace-time anyway, to be ready for the coming trouble. Anyway, the point is that divine champion is always a martial class, regardless of the deity worshiped. That can make for some interesting RP as a warrior has to reconcile being a warrior with his/her peace-loving ways. As concerns Lliira specifically, she is a fun-loving deity, but even her faith has its warriors. The Scarlet Mummers come to mind. They're the primary example of warriors that worship Lliira. {REMOVED LENGTHY SEGMENT ON Scarlet Mummers. SEE ORIGINAL POST IF YOU WISH TO READ IT.}
So, basically, play a devout character of the faith, ideally close to the deity in alignment, and roleplay training martially with the intent to serve the deity through that training. If your character does not already have martial weapons proficiency and/or light/medium shield proficiency, one way to RP that is expressing more interest in learning to use these kinds of weapons. While the character is required to have weapon focus in a melee weapon to enter the class, they gain proficiency with all simple and martial weapons if they don't already have it when they do enter the class, so they're putting some time into that. As the character trains, continue to be devout and pray to the deity for divine blessing. Ultimately, it's up to the deity if the character is granted the divine powers. If not, the character just trained as a fighter. Of course Lawful faiths have more structured routines of training combined with religious study that they may go through to indoctrinate and meld their divine champions, but that will vary by faith. I have a fondness for divine champion class. My oldest character on FRC is one. |
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Untainted_Soul
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Post by Untainted_Soul on Jan 28, 2019 8:48:16 GMT -5
Thank you. That reply was speedy and informative.
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