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Post by emeraldsnowx on Jul 19, 2016 15:04:33 GMT -5
I ran into someone riding a horse through an orc cave, and let them know what I was told about horses and caverns, but looking now, I can't find anything solid on the forums about where horses are allowed to be. Can a DM please iron that out conclusively and sticky it in the Server Rules forum? Thank you  |
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Post by Munroe on Jul 19, 2016 23:16:20 GMT -5
I ran into someone riding a horse through an orc cave, and let them know what I was told about horses and caverns, but looking now, I can't find anything solid on the forums about where horses are allowed to be. Can a DM please iron that out conclusively and sticky it in the Server Rules forum? Thank you :) Horses are not allowed in buildings or dungeons. Horses are for use in suitable outside environments. The logical exceptions to this are buildings intended for animals, like stables and barns. Anyone found with their horse in an inappropriate location may lose access to a horse. This was actually specified in the horse thread when horses were added. I'll look for the thread and see if I can find the exact wording. |
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Post by Pithirendar on Jul 20, 2016 0:16:56 GMT -5
Don't catch a caravan while riding a horse either. Yes, I have seen it.
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Post by ladyphoenix on Jul 20, 2016 7:17:36 GMT -5
Why don't catch caravan while riding a horse since it would mean you are riding along with the wagons (even caravan guard)?
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Post by StabbingNirvana on Jul 20, 2016 9:14:15 GMT -5
I think it's worth questioning why a person can't ride a horse into a cave that has room for the horse to be there. I mean if horses aren't allowed in caves, neither should summonable gray renders or whatever they're called. Neither should morphing in dragons or other large categorized creatures. Why draw a line at riding a horse in a cave when it gives minimal mechanical benefit and doesn't affect any rp? I would think those other two examples are way more disruptive to RP than some guy on a horse who found a cave with a large enough opening and large enough passages to bring his horse with him.
As a player who's character has a bonded paladin mount and who rides the mount regularly, I will sometimes use the caravan while on the mount. The RP being that my character is riding alongside the caravan but allowing me to take full advantage of the super cool insta-port to the next town. I get to save about half a minute of my life by not going through the entire process of dismounting, unsummoning, then summoning and mounting again.
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Post by ren on Jul 20, 2016 9:17:26 GMT -5
Why don't catch caravan while riding a horse since it would mean you are riding along with the wagons (even caravan guard)? I have spoken to dm hawk on this before. It is too be assumed that using the caravan while on horse, means your char is paying to travel with the caravan with your char on their own horse for various advantages (safer to travel in larger groups, road patrols might travel with the caravan if they going to the same place, a large group/caravan group "might get right of way" on smaller roads or busy roads, NPC caravan travellers might be grateful for a mounted adventurer who be a free caravan guard if sh*t hits the fan) |
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Post by Pithirendar on Jul 20, 2016 16:29:29 GMT -5
I guess you can rp it that way. I don't like it personally but it's easy to come up with a justification for insta porting on a horse that's hasted anyway.
To me, whole point of a horse is that it's an alternative to a caravan.
Anyway, this isn't a discussion thread. Feel free to make one.
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Post by emeraldsnowx on Jul 20, 2016 17:13:51 GMT -5
I ran into someone riding a horse through an orc cave, and let them know what I was told about horses and caverns, but looking now, I can't find anything solid on the forums about where horses are allowed to be. Can a DM please iron that out conclusively and sticky it in the Server Rules forum? Thank you Horses are not allowed in buildings or dungeons. Horses are for use in suitable outside environments. The logical exceptions to this are buildings intended for animals, like stables and barns. Anyone found with their horse in an inappropriate location may lose access to a horse. This was actually specified in the horse thread when horses were added. I'll look for the thread and see if I can find the exact wording. ... perfect, thank you. |
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Post by Munroe on Jul 20, 2016 23:28:33 GMT -5
I ran into someone riding a horse through an orc cave, and let them know what I was told about horses and caverns, but looking now, I can't find anything solid on the forums about where horses are allowed to be. Can a DM please iron that out conclusively and sticky it in the Server Rules forum? Thank you :) Horses are not allowed in buildings or dungeons. Horses are for use in suitable outside environments. The logical exceptions to this are buildings intended for animals, like stables and barns. Anyone found with their horse in an inappropriate location may lose access to a horse. This was actually specified in the horse thread when horses were added. I'll look for the thread and see if I can find the exact wording. Here is the original wording in the first post of the "FRC's Horse Implementation" thread. I transitioned into an area and I was forced off my horse.Horses are not allowed in any interior or underground areas. I would highly recommend dismounting your horse and then sending your horse away before moving into one of these areas. It's much better RP to do it yourself instead of forcing the script to do it for you in a doorway. It may be that not every transition does this automatically, but the original design was that they would. If you somehow manage to transition into a building or a dungeon on your horse, dismount and unsummon the horse. I think it's worth questioning why a person can't ride a horse into a cave that has room for the horse to be there. I mean if horses aren't allowed in caves, neither should summonable gray renders or whatever they're called. Neither should morphing in dragons or other large categorized creatures. Why draw a line at riding a horse in a cave when it gives minimal mechanical benefit and doesn't affect any rp? I would think those other two examples are way more disruptive to RP than some guy on a horse who found a cave with a large enough opening and large enough passages to bring his horse with him. As a player who's character has a bonded paladin mount and who rides the mount regularly, I will sometimes use the caravan while on the mount. The RP being that my character is riding alongside the caravan but allowing me to take full advantage of the super cool insta-port to the next town. I get to save about half a minute of my life by not going through the entire process of dismounting, unsummoning, then summoning and mounting again. Caves are very treacherous for horses. It's not just about the animal's size. There are places bears, wolves, and monsters can go that horses can't. Don't take your horse into caves. We don't have a formal stance anywhere about horses riding caravans that I've seen. I think it's -silly- when I see it, but I understand the idea of a horse and it's rider traveling alongside the caravan. It's far worse to see, for instance, someone fleeing a PVP on a caravan than to see someone on a horse riding the caravan. I would stop the former while I would hand-wave the latter. |
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Post by Extropy on Jul 20, 2016 23:35:33 GMT -5
We should strive to support multiple interpretation of systems like caravans, which in the end are only simple abstractions of the real thing. So I think it's great that some players will RP something that wasn't entirely intended, but makes sense .. like riding their horse along with the caravan.
If we truly want to foster open RP & not just a top down interpretation of how things should work, we should be designing systems that support players doing lots of different things & not just one way. For example, this is why I don't want to add 30 lines of flavor text to forging a sword. This robs the PC of agency for describing how -they- forge a sword and forces a single story on everyone.
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Post by Orchid on Jul 21, 2016 2:02:56 GMT -5
If this isn't related feel free to section it off. What is the RP result/ruling on paladin mounts and 'summoning' them somewhere i.e. inside a large cave? I've not seen a clear exemplar of how paladin mounts are treated RP-wise here or maybe I overlooked it, my current understanding is they're essentially celestially granted steeds bound to the paladin and fiercely loyal and thusly obedient perhaps to a fault.
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Post by Munroe on Jul 21, 2016 2:31:55 GMT -5
If this isn't related feel free to section it off. What is the RP result/ruling on paladin mounts and 'summoning' them somewhere i.e. inside a large cave? I've not seen a clear exemplar of how paladin mounts are treated RP-wise here or maybe I overlooked it, my current understanding is they're essentially celestially granted steeds bound to the paladin and fiercely loyal and thusly obedient perhaps to a fault. Don't bring your horse inside or underground. This includes summoning it in these places. This applies the same to paladin mounts. |
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Post by FlyingMidget on Mar 4, 2017 14:35:30 GMT -5
If this isn't related feel free to section it off. What is the RP result/ruling on paladin mounts and 'summoning' them somewhere i.e. inside a large cave? I've not seen a clear exemplar of how paladin mounts are treated RP-wise here or maybe I overlooked it, my current understanding is they're essentially celestially granted steeds bound to the paladin and fiercely loyal and thusly obedient perhaps to a fault. Don't bring your horse inside or underground. This includes summoning it in these places. This applies the same to paladin mounts. Having seen this more then once recently since my return, I feel as though I need to both bump this as a gentle reminder to read as well as quote it to ensure the relevant section is read. FM. |
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