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Post by thecaptain on Dec 21, 2013 16:48:32 GMT -5
Do these currently work and how much do they help? Specifically the Master's Summoner ring. Do they stack with extend spell?
I recently bought one and I'm hoping I didn't buy a expensive paper weight over here.
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Post by Munroe on Dec 23, 2013 19:23:12 GMT -5
I have seen your post but don't know the answer. *looks around* Extropy?
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Post by Munroe on Dec 23, 2013 19:28:49 GMT -5
Got this info from Fenix, who plays a druid: yes they do work. The basic ring is omething like an extra 5 mins, with the masters being an extra 30 minutes I believe I don't know if the exact numbers are 100%, but he knows better than I do.
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Post by Extropy on Dec 23, 2013 23:30:27 GMT -5
Its 3, 6 & 15 minutes of extra duration for the three levels of rings.
The extra duration is not modified by extend spell, but it does stack with with extend spell.
If one cast summon creature 4 as a level 12 cleric with the master ring, that would result in 5 + 12 + 15 = 32 minutes. With extend spell it would be 5 + 24 + 15 = 44 minutes.
If you have issues, feel free to pm me as well.
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Post by Extropy on Dec 24, 2013 11:39:53 GMT -5
On a highly related issue (This I think is similar enough not to need a new thread), do summoner rings work with summons cast from scrolls or items? Yes, the summoner rings will work with scrolls & items as well. They are likely more valuable in this case, as the caster level on loot summon items & scrolls is often fairly low.
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Post by Extropy on Dec 31, 2013 10:38:29 GMT -5
Please PM rather than post in DM Q&A I'm not sure the summoner rings are working properly. I've used a stopwatch and timed it with both the ring on and the ring off and got the same result. Also I noticed that I was summoning a boar with summon 1 for a while, then after reset it was back to a badger. don't really understand what was happening there For the duration .. which spells? See below For the boar .. what classses does that caster have? There were some changes added to give bards & rangers a bonus for creatures summoned (+1 and +2 like animal domain). I believe there was briefly a bug that gave ranger/wizards this bonus even if they cast as a wizard. Sorry to post here, but I had a quick, related question. Do summoner's rings just work for summons spells 1-9 or do they also work for spells like Shelgarn's, black blade, gate, and planar binding? Right now they work for summon 1-9 (and perhaps a few others), but will eventually work for most summons spells.
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Post by lokasenna on Jan 1, 2014 16:01:02 GMT -5
I'm a sorc/bard my bard levels might have caused it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 9:09:43 GMT -5
Excuse the thread resurrection, and also posting in a DM Q&A topic , but believe it would be useful to keep this in one thread.
I've got the Master's version of this ring, however it has no effect extending the duration of the L6 Cleric spell Planar Ally.
Just wondering if this is a bug (since the spell description run along the line of a normal summons) or intended.
Thanks!
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Post by Extropy on Feb 22, 2015 12:03:15 GMT -5
We haven't updated the planar summons for the new summoning system yet (though many of them already have custom creatures from years ago). When we do, we'll add in the duration boost as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 13:46:28 GMT -5
Perfect and thanks for the quick reply - much appreciated.
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Post by Templar on Apr 17, 2016 16:51:41 GMT -5
Sorry to bump this, but do Summoner rings stack with each other?
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Post by Penguin on Apr 18, 2016 10:02:18 GMT -5
They do not.
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Post by Orchid on Dec 8, 2016 4:41:08 GMT -5
Bumping for new but related question. If you have a summoner ring equipped, cast a summon spell, then unequip the summoner ring do the effects stay or no? i.e. equip summon ring cast summon equip stat ring extra duration stays or no?
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Post by Munroe on Dec 8, 2016 9:53:10 GMT -5
Bumping for new but related question. If you have a summoner ring equipped, cast a summon spell, then unequip the summoner ring do the effects stay or no? i.e. equip summon ring cast summon equip stat ring extra duration stays or no? The spell duration should be determined by the conditions when it was cast, including what rings were equipped. While it is possible that summoning spells could be scripted to check for the ring at the end of their normal spell duration to see if they should last longer, that's usually not how spells work in NWN and D&D. Their functionality is determined based on conditions at the time of casting. Extropy would know for sure, but the condition at the time of casting should generally be considered the relevant condition for determining the spell variables, including duration.
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Post by Extropy on Dec 8, 2016 13:48:40 GMT -5
You do not have to keep the ring equipped to get the bonus.
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Post by Templar on Jul 26, 2018 15:34:34 GMT -5
Its 3, 6 & 15 minutes of extra duration for the three levels of rings. The extra duration is not modified by extend spell, but it does stack with with extend spell. If one cast summon creature 4 as a level 12 cleric with the master ring, that would result in 5 + 12 + 15 = 32 minutes. With extend spell it would be 5 + 24 + 15 = 44 minutes. If you have issues, feel free to pm me as well. Is this still accurate? I have a summoners ring, lvl10 wizard. that should result in 5+10+6 = 21 minutes. I started a timer before casting and had a full 3 minutes left (around 18 min in) but the summon timed out and unsummoned.
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