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Post by Keetena on Nov 18, 2005 6:19:18 GMT -5
Talking about mind flayers some months ago I acquired one copy of 'montrous arcana - the illithyad' and they're really as disgusting as they look like lol.
About the 'lich lyrics' I found a copy of it in the single campaign, the original has unlimited uses/day this could be cool in server with charges/use - like 5 charges/use or less
Here I wish to point one fact, when using the eletrifier the cost to recharge each charge is truly (don't remenber how much cost to let teh eletrifier charged) + about 2 k since an eletrifier can charges only 10 times (5 charges/use I think) and costs a bit more than 20k if I'm not wrong - so to itens 5 charges per use this increases costs to (let me think) 10k + a lot (don't recall how much in itens values for each charge x 5) - I know it is good to increases the value of itens put a lot (50 charges on it) instead of put 10/1 charge per use (prices more low) but why not think again about this be a bit low... staves and magical instruments are very expensive...
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Post by hexer on Nov 18, 2005 7:04:14 GMT -5
Hm... I'm not sure about the costs, however, if you wish some clerification on that particular subject, or maybe make some suggestions, I'd make a post in the ideas & suggestions thread on it if you'd like a change.
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Post by kenny26 on Nov 24, 2005 0:12:34 GMT -5
i'd like any source information available on druids and their oath (that prevents them from wearing certain armours and using certain weapons). also, information about their animal companions would be nice. you know, where does the animal companion come from? that sort of thing. thanks in advance.
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Post by hexer on Nov 24, 2005 2:04:07 GMT -5
;D I'll find some stuff on the oath.
As for the companion, that's usually left up to the player. Was the animal simple nature's gift to you, or was it a companion you made years ago when you healed it? You can think of any reasonable story behind your companion.
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Post by kenny26 on Nov 24, 2005 12:21:18 GMT -5
ok i have a story figured out for the companion... i'm curious to learn more about their oaths though. i never understood excactely why they had those limitations, i just sort of accepted them 'ok thats how druids are played...'
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Post by hexer on Nov 27, 2005 21:41:50 GMT -5
Well, I'm really stumped here... hehe... The book gives me a bunch of hoopla about this oath, but never tells me exactly what it is... I think that it may be that certain items are considered more tied to nature than others... For example, a club. Made of wood. Simple. Nature-oriented... But a sword, forged from taking ore from the earth (probably something druids are against as it is 'using' mother nature), is not so natural... *shrug* ... I'll keep looking.
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Post by racestark on Nov 27, 2005 22:19:43 GMT -5
I'll see if I can find anything at work Tuesday while I'm on break, if no one else has by then. Our store has a TON of sourcebooks. I kinda would like to know this myself, too.
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Post by moulinous on Nov 27, 2005 23:45:01 GMT -5
Hey, i went to the Old @nd edition of books, the complete druid and it had some nice info on the druids and why they use certain items. "Most of the weapons permitted to druids resemble tools used in herding, hunting, and farning, or hold symbolic meaning to the druid. For instance, the curved scimitar and kopesh represent both the sickle used in the harvest and the crescent moon, which stands for birth, death, and rebirth in the cycle of Nature." Does that help? but anyhow on the animal companion as i cant find anything else.
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Post by kenny26 on Nov 28, 2005 14:03:31 GMT -5
Hey, i went to the Old @nd edition of books, the complete druid and it had some nice info on the druids and why they use certain items. "Most of the weapons permitted to druids resemble tools used in herding, hunting, and farning, or hold symbolic meaning to the druid. For instance, the curved scimitar and kopesh represent both the sickle used in the harvest and the crescent moon, which stands for birth, death, and rebirth in the cycle of Nature." Does that help? but anyhow on the animal companion as i cant find anything else. wow thanks, this is the best answer yet. thanks moulinous. what book did you say you read that in?
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Post by racestark on Nov 30, 2005 23:16:14 GMT -5
Alright, I scrounged through every D&D sourcebook we have at work and I couldn't find anything that elaborates anymore on druids. But I know for a fact that there is one that has several pages on the make-up of a druidic circle, a druid's oath and several houses or lodges. I thought it was "Masters of the Wild", in fact, I could have sworn it was that, but it wasn't in the one we have at my store. I do know, however, that a friend of mine has the sourcebook that I read it in. I'll see if I can get it from him. It may take a while, though, since he moved to the middle of the Pacific Ocean, unless someone else knows what I'm talking about.
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Post by hexer on Dec 1, 2005 2:29:34 GMT -5
Hey, i went to the Old @nd edition of books, the complete druid and it had some nice info on the druids and why they use certain items. "Most of the weapons permitted to druids resemble tools used in herding, hunting, and farning, or hold symbolic meaning to the druid. For instance, the curved scimitar and kopesh represent both the sickle used in the harvest and the crescent moon, which stands for birth, death, and rebirth in the cycle of Nature." Does that help? but anyhow on the animal companion as i cant find anything else. wow thanks, this is the best answer yet. thanks moulinous. what book did you say you read that in? The Complete Druid. A book I actually don't have. ;D
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Post by kenny26 on Dec 1, 2005 13:51:32 GMT -5
wow thanks, this is the best answer yet. thanks moulinous. what book did you say you read that in? The Complete Druid. A book I actually don't have. ;D a book you don't have?? is there such a thing?! *has a heart attack and dies*
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Post by racestark on Dec 1, 2005 16:39:35 GMT -5
Kenny, try Unapproachable East. My off-continent friend thinks that's what I'm talking about, but he'll double check. He said it has a bit about druidic circles, but he would have to double-check how much. Let you know if I here more.
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Post by kenny26 on Dec 1, 2005 18:50:34 GMT -5
thank you, i'll be checking this thread frequently for an answer.
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Post by moulinous on Dec 2, 2005 1:26:43 GMT -5
Just to let everyone know I do have pretty much every book as i ummmm, "found" them on a site that is rather full of fun things.(anyone want to know what Kobes accusser looks like?lol) anyhow, if hexer dont mind, and i see a question, i will post an answer if thats okay with him.
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Post by hexer on Dec 3, 2005 5:05:28 GMT -5
I don't mind. If their is something I don't know then it is most welcome.
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Post by Talus on Dec 10, 2005 15:05:31 GMT -5
Is there a FR diety that dislike arcane magic users? Enough to want them destroyed.
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Post by Keetena on Dec 10, 2005 15:16:10 GMT -5
Well, others can add to this
Ghond dispises magic, the crafter prefer craft usefull itens than do magical of any sort, but he isn't the type to instigate his followers to be agressive with anyone, he just don't like magic, and don't cares too for what reason his itens are used, he is truly neutral in this aspect.
The thayans dispises other magicians than not the red ones, usually such ones can be hunted and destroyed, I do think Kossuth (the elemental god of fire) don't like arcanists who don't follow he, but I'm not certain, I can be wrong
Shar dispises Mystra for her long gone intervention in her war against Selune, it is possible to followers of Shar wanna kill those who serve Mystra or who uses the weave and dispises trhe shadow weave (the other weave created by Shar to be used by arcanists, her plan is to make the weave useless and grow in power in the use of the shadow weave by arcanists)
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Post by racestark on Dec 10, 2005 18:46:34 GMT -5
I don't know about a deity, but there is an entry in the "Lords of Darkness" sourcebook about House Karanok. If you ain't got that book, I can type it out for you.
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Post by Talus on Dec 10, 2005 19:10:53 GMT -5
I don't know about a deity, but there is an entry in the "Lords of Darkness" sourcebook about House Karanok. If you ain't got that book, I can type it out for you. No I don't have that book, but I was looking for something a little more general, like religion or geographical beliefs.
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Post by moulinous on Dec 10, 2005 19:27:47 GMT -5
There is a city that hates wizards and are ruled by a cult called the cult of Entropy that wishes to destroy all magic. It is the city of Luthcheq and all magic users(wizards and sorcerers) are put to death. I think they also hate elves. It is a city in Chessenta. Hope that helps.
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Post by Talus on Dec 10, 2005 19:29:15 GMT -5
There is a city that hates wizards and are ruled by a cult called the cult of Entropy that wishes to destroy all magic. It is the city of Luthcheq and all magic users(wizards and sorcerers) are put to death. I think they also hate elves. It is a city in Chessenta. Hope that helps. Oh that works well, now to learn about Chessenta, and Luthcheq. I think I have the books that should be in.
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Post by racestark on Dec 10, 2005 21:51:09 GMT -5
There is a city that hates wizards and are ruled by a cult called the cult of Entropy that wishes to destroy all magic. It is the city of Luthcheq and all magic users(wizards and sorcerers) are put to death. I think they also hate elves. It is a city in Chessenta. Hope that helps. Oh that works well, now to learn about Chessenta, and Luthcheq. I think I have the books that should be in. That's House Karanok from "The Lords of Darkness."
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Post by Spooks on Dec 11, 2005 0:41:40 GMT -5
Being as my post was neglected in the Roleplay Discussions Forum, I bring it here.
[ [Do assasin's have a secret language? They aren't "theives" so they cant really qualify for Thieves Cant.
Cant would be to express "the top left window is unlocked" or "the second box in is heavily trapped"
Assasin's would have an entirely different agenda to develop in their vocabulary, such as. "He is favoring his left leg... take him out on that side" or "Get in position while I cover the bodyguard."
They have two different goals in mind when in development of the languages.
And I can hardly believe the Fire Knives dont have a language they can speak in when they need to. I would like a reasonable ruling on this by someone who has the sources.
If they dont hav a name for the language.. I think Assasins Patois (pronounced Pa-twuh) or Death's Patois is a nice flowing name for it ^_^ ]]
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Post by racestark on Dec 13, 2005 16:52:55 GMT -5
Alright, Kenny, I finally found a copy of "The Unapproachable East". I paged through it and my friend in the middle of the Pacific was wrong. That wasn't the book I saw with the druid information in it. I'll keep looking and let you know, if you're still interested. Just didn't want you wasting your time trying to get a hold of that one, if you were.
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Post by kenny26 on Dec 13, 2005 18:31:15 GMT -5
i'm still interested. i don't mind waiting, it isn't excactely urgent for me to find out the details behind the druid's holy oath...
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Post by DM Grizwald on Dec 13, 2005 20:54:56 GMT -5
i would also like to know this oath. i've been trying to figure it out for some time now.
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Post by moulinous on Dec 13, 2005 21:36:47 GMT -5
That's House Karanok from "The Lords of Darkness." is the rulers of the city and just followers of the sphere to clarify...
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Post by moulinous on Dec 14, 2005 1:35:36 GMT -5
well, i have searched in many books and found that there is no mention of just an assassins language and i think for good reason. Every guild would be different and every assassin is different. even in real life serial killers and such are solitary creatures and i think in FRC that would be the same. Look at when Cyric was a human, he was a loner in a group. that is just how it is. Now as for the holy oath of druids, well, the only real mention besides the players handbook is in the book Masters of the wild and they state that the druid 'sect' is based off the Celtic sect from ancient Europe/England and such. from a textbook search i found only this and it reads in such '...druids in times before the rule of the romans were the priest of their people, acting as judge and jury in all things. they even served as tutors to the budding christian faith and in later times their chief rivals. they followed a more traditional path that is unknown in these day and times...' wow, that pretty much surmises what i found as there is no real definition of their oath. i think that kinda sucks,lol. anyhow, i know that does not really help but in my humble opinion is that the druids look out for nature and depending on alignment, follow how ever they think nature would be served best. sorry.
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Post by kenny26 on Dec 14, 2005 14:05:20 GMT -5
wow so nobody can honestly say they know the first thing about the druid's oath, even the publishers of the game...! seriously, i can't make sense of this. how can the publishers of a game develop a class with senseless limitations, without even caring to make up an excuse for said limitations? are there any old-school gamers out there who might have read about the oath way back in 1st or 2nd edition? 'cause right now that's my only hope of finding out anything about the oath...
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