DM Q&A: Spell: Bless Weapon (crafting)

[ancientempathy]

A year+ back bless weapon scrolls were disallowed to be publically sold and only allowed for personal use. I was one of the many DM's back on the team that signed onto this. In hindsight the same should have probably been done for flame weapon scrolls, keen scrolls and GMW scrolls. All or none?

Keen = Crit range increased, CL 17, 375 GP, 15 KP
Flame Weapon = 1d8 damage, CL 17, 150 GP, 5 XP
Greater Magic Weapon = +5 Enchantment, CL 15, 375 XP, 15 XP
Bless Weapon = 2d6 divine damage vs. undead, 17 CL, 150 GP, 5 XP

Keen lasts 1 minute, Flame weapon lasts 1 minute, GMW lasts 2 minutes, and Bless Weapon lasts 1 minute. All this, per level.

Now wand making has come up, that for Bless Weapon

2d6 divine damage vs. undead, CL 6, 4500 XP, 180 XP

I'm sure onlookers think a paladin wouldn't sell it while others are inclined to not care, and some think it's possible for a paladin to sell it pending the right circumstances. Not really here to inquire on such principals though

The question is, can paladin bless weapon wands be sold, or are they to keep to personal use?

Would the DM team maybe consider extending the non-selling courtesy of the other aforementioned scrolls too? Considering they have larger practical usage and are just as strong...

Thanks for the input

[DM Justicar - Creator of FRC]

Mar 26, 2010 15:04:30 GMT -5 @ancientempathy said:

A year+ back bless weapon scrolls were disallowed to be publically sold and only allowed for personal use. I was one of the many DM's back on the team that signed onto this. In hindsight the same should have probably been done for flame weapon scrolls, keen scrolls and GMW scrolls. All or none?

Keen = Crit range increased, CL 17, 375 GP, 15 KP
Flame Weapon = 1d8 damage, CL 17, 150 GP, 5 XP
Greater Magic Weapon = +5 Enchantment, CL 15, 375 XP, 15 XP
Bless Weapon = 2d6 divine damage vs. undead, 17 CL, 150 GP, 5 XP

Keen lasts 1 minute, Flame weapon lasts 1 minute, GMW lasts 2 minutes, and Bless Weapon lasts 1 minute. All this, per level.

Now wand making has come up, that for Bless Weapon

2d6 divine damage vs. undead, CL 6, 4500 XP, 180 XP

I'm sure onlookers think a paladin wouldn't sell it while others are inclined to not care, and some think it's possible for a paladin to sell it pending the right circumstances. Not really here to inquire on such principals though

The question is, can paladin bless weapon wands be sold, or are they to keep to personal use?

Would the DM team maybe consider extending the non-selling courtesy of the other aforementioned scrolls too? Considering they have larger practical usage and are just as strong...

Thanks for the input

This has actually come up recently and the DM's are feeling the same way. This is not a ruling but stay tuned.

[ancientempathy]

Thanks for the heads up on the review. I get the feeling lots of merchants are gonna put me on a hit list LOL.

[Deleted]

Just giving this a bump. Interested to know if Bless weapon wands are legal to purchase or not.

~Sio

[EDM Entori]

same with the scrolls as justi pointed out above, I'm Greatly interested in that point.

[Munroe]

May 20, 2010 17:00:18 GMT -5 EDM Entori said:

same with the scrolls as justi pointed out above, I'm Greatly interested in that point.

Really not seeing the same problem with Keen or Greater Magic Weapon scrolls because of their expense, but selling Flame Weapon scrolls might deserve review.

[soulfien]

is the rule on GMW even posted anywhere?

[Charon's Claw]

There currently is no ruling on GMW as DM Justicar said. So no.. it's not posted b/c there is no rule.

[ancientempathy]

Whether or not a paladin sells the goods is up to them. Combat ones (Like a Red Knight Paladin), might like selling their crafted item to keep the friend supplied and prepared. If made for personal use and to not sell, then they could at least offer party members. But I'll try not to debate! ;D

I had posted previously with questions, so I'll call this my bump

I will indicate too, that the Holysword (Holy Avenger) spell/property doesn't work on anyone -but- paladins. Short of a rogue with 25+ UMD.

nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Holy_avenger

[ancientempathy]

bump

[ancientempathy]

I dont actually, seeing as how I got a paladin that can craft the wand too

I bumped this because I didnt see an official response. As I review the original OP, I see ways I can improve the wording, but I'll keep it as it is

[Munroe]

The ruling, as it stands, is that Bless Weapon SCROLLS should only be scribed by a paladin for personal use, not for resale.

There is no ruling on wands of Bless Weapon. If we notice abuse of such items, a ruling may come in the future. As it stands, there isn't one.

Does this answer your question?

[ancientempathy]

It does

The lack of being able to sell the bless weapon scroll raises the question why the other scrolls are allowed, though, but that's a different issue...

Thanks for the response