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Post by ancientempathy on Jan 24, 2010 12:35:24 GMT -5
Hello folks, As Bahamut is now going to be a deity choice I thought to rehash my interest in making a follower of Bahamut and inviting any other dragon nerds out there to join me if they want A long time ago DM Rook and I discussed the fun it'd be to have a paladin of Bahamut, so I suspect he may use this opportunity if he wants (and has the time), and I encourage others to do so Right now I'm torn between making a Bard/Cleric/GDD of Bahamut, whose domains are likely to be Air and Good. He'd be a scholarly sort and a good supporter, so he's likely going to end up a complete wart in combat on the offense and defense side, unless something with that changes. Or if not that, then I had pondered on a Bard/GDD that sings praise of the Northwind Lord and tries to spread around legends of heros in his name, that come out of Damara. Any follower of Bahamut that I make will originate out of Damara as that's the centerpoint for the religion, and where he is just most-known amongst humans. No one needs to impose this limitation to them though. Be advise that there are plenty of closet supporters for Tiamat out there on FRC, or just allies to her. Don't friggin whine and come complaining to me if one such sympathizer manages to grab ahold of your Bahamyte ;D Should make for interesting roleplay and fun, if anything I plan on making this character, today, even if I have to flip a coin to figure out what I want. I plan on playing the actual character on Tuesday and Thursday mornings, then Sunday in the evening. The character will be male and under my original, Ancient_E account I have on FRC. He'll likely be holding a Damaran surname or first name - haven't decided yet. So look me up Cheers!
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Post by ancientempathy on Jan 24, 2010 12:44:21 GMT -5
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Post by ancientempathy on Jan 24, 2010 13:56:17 GMT -5
Some goals for the character - The ultimate goal is to establish a worthwhile shrine somewhere - Getting Lydia Rosewater pregnant (this will happen after he meets her) Watch it Foxy! - Spreading the churches influence - Aiding goodly dragonkin about the lands (Conversly, opposing the bad scalebellies) - MAYBE seeking Alizarin Academy out for his scholarly pursuits. This should have interesting impacts ;D - Meeting his ancestor (prolly never gonna happen, but its a characters personal ambition) And that's about all I can come up with at this time. Any of the faith he meets he'll likley include them in plans and alter his goals and ideas per character development and the like, just depends on what all happens. Right now I got one of the hardest parts out of the way. The portrait. Next is working on the friggin biography which is hard for me. And I ultimately decided to go Bard/Cleric/GDD
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Post by The Supreme Watcher on Jan 24, 2010 14:58:58 GMT -5
I look forward to being as racist as possible against your scaled freak of a character. Hooah!
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Post by ancientempathy on Jan 24, 2010 15:05:46 GMT -5
Who is now made, speaking of which
Kosef Scaletender
I forgot the third hardest part at making a new character...crafting clothing....ARRRRRGGGHHHH
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Post by jensmann on Jan 25, 2010 8:49:25 GMT -5
we all feel with you in that man.
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Post by 828stingstingneo on Jan 25, 2010 9:08:13 GMT -5
Aw, c'mon! Uncrafted newbie gear FTW!
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Post by mythosfakir on Jan 27, 2010 0:25:59 GMT -5
I've been considering a paladin/gdd of Bahamut ever since they announced that Bahamut was going back in, but I haven't planned it much nor did I intend to start him anytime soon. If I'm beat to it, no spilled milk, though. Maybe your guy can be a sort of instructor to mine when and if I ever make him.
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Post by ancientempathy on Jan 27, 2010 0:47:18 GMT -5
A paladin/GDD could not be made
Paladin/sorc is a banned combo
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Post by mythosfakir on Jan 27, 2010 9:17:17 GMT -5
A paladin/GDD could not be made Paladin/sorc is a banned combo Ah, and bards are nonlawful. lol silly me. Guess that goes to show how the thought was just rolling around in my head without much research behind it.
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Post by Rook on Jan 27, 2010 14:53:45 GMT -5
I've been considering a paladin/gdd of Bahamut ever since they announced that Bahamut was going back in, but I haven't planned it much nor did I intend to start him anytime soon. If I'm beat to it, no spilled milk, though. Maybe your guy can be a sort of instructor to mine when and if I ever make him. You could play a humanoid paladin of Bahamut. Or you could play a LG fighter/sorcerer/dragon disciple dedicated to Bahamut. A LG cleric/sorcerer/dragon disciple would work as well. Those are the two best options, I think, of coming close to a paladin/dragon disciple of Bahamut.
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Post by mythosfakir on Jan 27, 2010 20:50:48 GMT -5
I've been considering a paladin/gdd of Bahamut ever since they announced that Bahamut was going back in, but I haven't planned it much nor did I intend to start him anytime soon. If I'm beat to it, no spilled milk, though. Maybe your guy can be a sort of instructor to mine when and if I ever make him. You could play a humanoid paladin of Bahamut. Or you could play a LG fighter/sorcerer/dragon disciple dedicated to Bahamut. A LG cleric/sorcerer/dragon disciple would work as well. Those are the two best options, I think, of coming close to a paladin/dragon disciple of Bahamut. Oh yeah, definitely not abandoning the character idea - especially once I've fleshed it out - but I really want to play a paladin since it's a class that - to this day - I have never been able to rp to my satisfaction.
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Post by The Supreme Watcher on Jan 27, 2010 21:30:18 GMT -5
I would welcome you to the n00b Pally train.
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Post by ancientempathy on Jan 27, 2010 22:45:59 GMT -5
I've been considering a paladin/gdd of Bahamut ever since they announced that Bahamut was going back in, but I haven't planned it much nor did I intend to start him anytime soon. If I'm beat to it, no spilled milk, though. Maybe your guy can be a sort of instructor to mine when and if I ever make him. You could play a humanoid paladin of Bahamut. Or you could play a LG fighter/sorcerer/dragon disciple dedicated to Bahamut. A LG cleric/sorcerer/dragon disciple would work as well. Those are the two best options, I think, of coming close to a paladin/dragon disciple of Bahamut. Rook made some good combo suggestions there And just straight up pally of Bahamut works too. It aint like we've got to have only one after all
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Post by mythosfakir on Jan 28, 2010 10:09:54 GMT -5
The cleric/sorc/gdd actually catches my attention now that I look again. It seems like a class combination that has a lot of potential but one that would be very difficult to manage from a build standpoint - and the rp is sure to be amazing with it as well. Never successfully done a cleric, either. lol
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Post by ancientempathy on Feb 3, 2010 22:03:19 GMT -5
Something just dawned on me about this that I forgot to mention I reconsidered things and I came to the conclusion that I'd rather wait for New-Suzail to appear, for it to be the new starting area, so that the new character can have that fresh experience Rather sure all whose had an interest has lazily been taking their time to play too ;D So no sweat really. New-Suzail is just something I'm really looking forward to so I don't mind the wait And please don't hold back on my account either!
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Post by iangallowglas on Feb 5, 2010 18:51:13 GMT -5
You've mentioned Paladins of Bahamut, is there an official order? Is there a monk order for Bahamut? I have always assumed that you had to be in one of the listed orders to be either a Paladin or Monk. Since Bahamut is new I'm curious if Paladins and Monks will be allowed as his followers and if they will be able to Multi-class.
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Post by ancientempathy on Feb 5, 2010 19:06:39 GMT -5
You've mentioned Paladins of Bahamut, is there an official order? Is there a monk order for Bahamut? I have always assumed that you had to be in one of the listed orders to be either a Paladin or Monk. Since Bahamut is new I'm curious if Paladins and Monks will be allowed as his followers and if they will be able to Multi-class. You needn't be in a paladin order or a monk order, in order to be a paladin or a monk...If that's been holding you back, then let that be no more! When a paladin or a monk join an order, its to be able to allow for multiclassing purposes. A good example is a monk of the Red Knight. You can be a worshiper of her, but she has no true monastic order. I think that a monk is supposed to at least pick a lawful deity, but don't quote me on that I do not believe paladins of Bahamut have an order or a monk order, at least not anything that would allow for multiclassing purposes. The present lore threads that are made that discuss orders never took into account a transition beyond the year 1372 DR, so with that said...I could very well be wrong
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Post by The Supreme Watcher on Feb 5, 2010 19:49:44 GMT -5
I don't believe monks have a deity alignment requirement, since they don't get divine spells. It would make sense, but I'm sure you could have monks of Gruumsh One-Eye who train to turn their bodies into the perfect force of destruction, or monks of Talos who train to strike like lightning, and so on ad nauseum.
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Post by ancientempathy on Feb 5, 2010 20:21:41 GMT -5
You're correct
I just looked up a particular monk order and who their deity is, and it was a NE deity. I forgot that one again, arrrrrgh!
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Post by iangallowglas on Feb 5, 2010 23:31:51 GMT -5
Can Bahamut's monks be lawfull neutral or only good like his clerics? I'm assuming they can't be evil.
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Post by iangallowglas on Feb 5, 2010 23:35:01 GMT -5
Just read Glandash's post. That seems odd, it doesn't make sense to me that a Good god would have evil monks. Or maybe I'm reading that wrong?
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Post by catmage on Feb 6, 2010 6:21:21 GMT -5
Technically, if you're not a divine class, you can worship whoever it is you want. I could create a Chaotic Evil worshipper of Torm, or Lawful Good follower of Gruumsh. It's simply that for the most part, a person of that alignment would not be drawn to that deity, unless they had some very, very skewed logic.
If you are chaotic evil and butchering puppies and kittens in order to "Further the great and glorious Torm" or mass murdering every god damned heretic that refused to believe that "Tyr alone is the one true god", then odds are good that once you die, you'll be judged as one of the False and be beyond ressurection. If you fervently worship a deity of a grossly conflicting alignment, they might be inclined to send messages, signs, or an actual divine emissary to guide you to the proper course, or destroy you by sending an agent or simply swallowing you whole in a gout of divine flame. Also, in the case of clerics, there are multiple sources that have shown evil gods with domain selections that match the cleric in question quietly slipping in and granting spells for the sheer evil thrill of tricking mortals, but any such RP on FRC would have to be DM sanctioned. I personally find those funny, especially the case of a cleric of Corellon who ends up slipping into evil trying to destroy the drow, and winds up with Lolth backing her spells, since via special feats she only has access to the Chaos domain, which the two deities share.
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Post by ancientempathy on Feb 7, 2010 7:13:38 GMT -5
Just read Glandash's post. That seems odd, it doesn't make sense to me that a Good god would have evil monks. Or maybe I'm reading that wrong? You may have misread because Garum hadn't mentioned anything along those lines LN monks should work. As Catmage had pointed out, it is simply impractical for a monk to be of a diametrically opposite alignment to that of their sire
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